If that's the case then you're still letting the herb get too hot. Keep it under 200. The herb should only turn a slight tan color when done with it. The thing knocks me down hard. Very hard time getting up after a session

see, this is what i was expecting. and i have fresh herbs from the dispensary.

it's definitely brown after vaping, not tan, so too hot eh. ok, i'll try it keeping it at 190c the whole time.

:)

vtower extreme - i have one!! it is amazzzzzzzzzing you must be crazy dude! im sitting here right now smoking from it never smoke joints anymore they make my throat hurt now this thing is amazing

when i take a tissue and put it between a joint and my lips and take a puff theres like a big yellow stain even if i take the tiniest puff but if i do the same with the hose on this thing even if i take a huge pull theres nothing on the tissue and im happy to not breathing that stuff in!

you must be doing it wrong man! what is the process that you are going through?

under 200 means under 200 celcius i think i usually vape at around 365-375 Fahrenheit but if you vape a bit higher like around 405-410 you get a different high thats more of a body high it just releases a few more carcinogens than is released at the lower temps but still not as many as combustion and burning it

ahhh i recall a lot of smoke that go along with vaporizers

if you want to take a good hard pull like an especially hard one then instead of putting the weed in the neck part put it in the part of the tube that connects to that like that little elbow and pack it against that screen and put it back on the neck, you have to let the thing get warm and then take a nice slow hit youll be coughing tarless goodness

1. grind up some choice fresh herbs
2. put a nice pile of that in the part that holds that shit
3. put that part on the vape
4. turn on vape and warm up to 230c for ~5 minutes
5. reduce heat to 190c
6. put whip on
7. inhale


that's vapor! :1orglaugh

Yep, I'll take my trusty ol' Doris bong any day. No volcanos, no vaporizers, no 3 ft. glass on glass water bong, etc. Save the money and buy weed with it. :)

yeah listen to him, he knows the unit. lol

I prefer little hand held vapor brothers standard with dial heat control, nothing fancy but straight to the point. Sooooo good.

it basically ends up in that neck part on the elbow side, i've tried various levels of inhale and find that a good solid inhale creates the most noticeable vapor cloud and that level pulls the buds up into that area.

which is what i want right? to see the vapor?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh touche

50 bunk paraphernalia

i'll schmoke u out! real good too!!!!! :upsidedow

we sell those at my store.
no one buys them cause they're all flash and no substance.
as soon as most customers see the remote, they figure this thing is all gimmick.
that being said, you got it today and are giving up on it today?

patience, young skywalker.

treat this like a new video game, except that you get high off it.
it takes some time to get used to all the controls and really get good at it.
when's the last time you gave up on a new video game after a day?

it is, but you need to burn about 3 times as much to get anything out of it.
we call it diet weed, and save it in a little jar for a rainy day.

the unit gets rock solid reviews across the internets. i think the unit works as advertised, unless something craps out on it i don't see how it's all flash and no substance.

i got it friday and been messin with it since then. so 4 days.

Me too lol

That's what I thought too :upsidedow

Deal! :thumbsup

i've never claimed to be a total health freak. eating right and exercising are simply 2 facets of my day to day. :)

you should let it warm up first, then put the weed in

do you turn on your fan when you turn it on? you probably should with no weed in it so the glass warms up and everything inside is nice and toasty

in no time youll be a pro when i first got it i was like wtf is it broken? i was putting too much weed in, not letting it warm up enough. up your temperature to 375 Fahrenheit give it a bit to warm up and and just leave it on all day if you have to nothing happens and itll be ready to go whenever

thing is that it is way better for your lungs you can tell just after a week or so using it and then going back to something else how harsh everything else feels

and the pulls you can get off of this thing are hugeeeee

yep yep! you can make butter with it too if you are crafty enough and it's not burnt.

If you think it's overrated, you're most likely either doing it wrong, or have the wrong kind. I know lots of people who far prefer a good vape over smoke.

Edit: Just saw the one you have. It's a total joke. Get yourself a Volcano or a Natural Goods.

vaporizing is so simple, all you need is this: http://www.vaporwarehouse.com/standard-vaporizers.html

all that fancy shit is just gimmick and confusion and way overpriced.

All I will say is I never smoked cigs, always hated smoke. It is almost a shame to burn good herb, it should be vaporized for maximum pleasure.

After eating vegetarian, taking care of my body, putting smoke in it is just terrible regardless of what you are burning. Smoke is bad for your lungs.

have fun

What didn't you like about it (may have missed it)? The high was less than if you just mainlined it or smoked from a pipe?

My vaporizer:

http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content...or_ray_gun.jpg

Sometimes people don't feel it at first...they're like:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0...tian_large.jpg

That's odd...I didn't hear a ka-boom!

Then they're like: :error :helpme :smokin :thefinger :party-smi

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pu...veDecision.png

Y'all are high, right? :hitit :eyecrazy :laughing-

ADG

i disagree, i think this one is more than capable of getting the job done. and there are tons of people online who recommend this based on their own results.
i don't have a problem getting a volcano, but from what i've read from people who owned and used both is that this is equivalent. the fact is the temp seems spot on, it says heated, it's all glass to glass connections, a ceramic heating unit. the herbs don't ignite whatsoever.

dude, the link I posted is the only vaporizer I will ever use after mastering how to. Throw the volcano out the window.

it was equivalent, i was expecting what some describe in this thread. i'm figuring my temp is off, based on the advices given above.

:1orglaugh exactly.

I'm not usually one to insist that I'm right, but I have used literally EVERY major vape on the market because I'm friends with the owners of the local shops here. I'm not just pulling this stuff out of my ass and saying it, it's based on real experience with many different machines.

before and after:


well, after and before, technically

http://oi51.tinypic.com/2cxc11j.jpg

man that shit is soooo smokeable still, your good high is still in that shriveled up herb... it should look like chocolate and powdery when you are done.

vapor brothers FTW.. have you tried one?

so i should get more visible vapor from that pile on the left?

yeah smoke that stuff... it takes a bit to sort of dry the herb out so it starts to really release the good stuff.

When you get your first "smoke load" you will be a real vape smoker. lol

i want a smoke load!

btw, what's a smoke load?

Yeah if it's combusting then you're too hot. Even some machines can't be trusted for temperature. Start off really low. 160c is the key area to get a good mix of CBCs and THCs. If it's not doing the trick bring it up only 10c at a time until reaching the good point.

Buddy of mine set it to 220 once.. didn't understand concept of "feeling" your way with the wand to get that sweet spot when hauling. He burnt vaped entire gram in one inhalation but still got all the vaporized stuff before it caught fire then at the end... POOF! It was like burnt popcorn lol.. he kept standing for a few seconds then immediately sat down and never got up for hours.. It's like he wasn't even there. Point is that at right temperature and playing with the device you will find what works to get maximum CBD and THC output without wasting the entire load and/or ruining the remnants. If it had not burnt there would have been an entire day's worth of puff left in there lol

Ive also experimented with moistening the weed a bit right after chopping it. makes a mess but vapes and vapes and vapes and vapes!!! First time I tried that I forgot my purpose in life lol

so that stuff in the pic is burnt? if so, then how can there be more to vape in it?

also, so i don't want to *see* the vapor?

just to add:

It;s all about personal preference too. If you want a strong mental high, let it get a little bit hotter to vaporize the psyche-effective CBDs. if you want more of a body or physical medication then go a bit lower to only vaporize the THCs. Different strains have different levels of CBD and THC too.. so one batch may work good at 190 while another be better at 160, generally start low and raise until desired effect

actually that looks like it has a little more life in it . I couldn't see the pic I was mobile when I first seen this thread. Whatever temperature you have it set at keep using it for this particular strain. Just keep in mind as it dries out more and more you will have to drop the temperature.