No I called you dumb because you can't tell us why you think my statement about the religious right is the most likely scenario of Americans rising up.

I called you deluded because you are. As you don't explain, I won't either. :1orglaugh

Are you old enough to be on this board?

I've already called you out on your statement because it has no factual basis to it.. You're good at making shit up and passing it off as fact. Are you intelligent enough to be on this forum?

moeloubani you really should stop pretending you are speaking for all canadians because I have yet to meet one with such uneducated, unread and internet video fueled nonsense in my entire life... stop saying treason... treason is when one person does something against their country or betrays their allegiance ie gives out secrets etc.. going in and blasting guns for no reason is simply murder. When it's a group or militia that is backed up by their own constitution, they have the right to take up arms and the right to rise against tyranny either foreign or domestic. That's not the right to go in and shoot them up either but they have the right to stand up for their rights as they should. It only sounds barbaric to you because you have only decided to believe that there is only two types of people, one who don't like guns and gun crazed yokels who spend every extra penny they have on ammo waiting for shit to hit the fan... The truth is there are plenty of sensible people who believe in that right and freedom both educated and accomplished so lets simmer down the ignorance a bit shall we?


Paul Markham believes that the (currently overtaxed, overstretched) american army would happily steam roll over their own people, their own cities, their own families... that shit is funny... Seriously do you even believe that or you just trolling as usual? They aren't trained murderers.. they are trained soldiers, if you knew anything about soldiers you would be aware of this already.

see, once again, you look at our problems with your third world eyes and see that your third world solutions wouldn't fix our problems.
Sadly, for your attempt to seem intelligent, we can easily solve our problems. Our so called poor live better lives than you do, paul.

what's that feel like?:1orglaugh

I'm not Canadian, and from there your post went downhill.

Treasonists are the losers.

To be a soldier you have to be trained to a very high level to kill on the orders of others. Without standing there and thinking if it's a good idea or a bad idea. If you knew anything about soldiers you would understand what the training involves.

The number of times trained soldiers have turned their guns on civilians is so many it's not worth discussing. For some reason people think the US soldiers would be different. If it was the over whelming masses it wouldn't need the Army. The possibility of that is as remote as some here gaining some common sense.

The over whelming majority of Americans would put up with almost anything if they can still switch on their TVs and go raid the fridge. That saddens me because I have nothing but admiration for Americans who did stand up to tyranny. In the Revolution, Civil War, Civil Rights, Anti Vietnam and 2 World Wars.

Look around you at today. The Enron Crisis and other company corporates who robbed you, Iraq War, crashing economy because of greed, President stealing an election and probably other things that would of brought millions onto the streets. Barely gets a whimper these days.

You are in the top ten of the most ignorant...clueless people on this board...you just don't get it and never will. Virtually every post you make is based upon ignorance.

agree with you there. can't remember the last time the old man didn't make a post that wasn't sheer ignorance or delusion, and i have a great memory.

so you think the US military would roll tanks down 'Main Street' USA?

This thread is gone too far.

:2 cents::2 cents:

nice...i will read this thread tonight haven't had a nice political shit slinging thread in awhile

Wow. Excellent post, well done!

It has been done before and would be done again...if the administration came to believe that it is necessary.

Ever heard of the Nuclear Umbrella supplied to Canada...by the U.S. during the cold war and still exists to this very day?

Good points.

craziness

So let's imagine a scenario where armed Americans take to the streets to over throw the Government.

In the fantasy world of some, the Army sit back and do fuck all while these armed civilians force a change in Government. At the front of this armed rebellion is some of the keyboard warriors posting here. The Government gives in and goes off in fast retreat and the rebels take over.

Or they lose and the Government forgive them because they were revolutionaries.

And they live happily ever after.

IN THE REAL WORLD.

The army is called out and rounds up the rebels. The moment they start firing the Army gets tough and the armed rebels come off far worse. The ring leaders are put on trial for treason and executed, those found to be firing are also put on trial.

And the Government carries on as it is.

Also in the Fantasy World, 300 million Americans rise up.

Of course in the Real World, 300,000 might wave a banner. :Oh crap

But go on dreaming 12clunks, your balls might grow if you do.

These clowns live in a World where the US Army of trained soldiers is no match against rednecks with guns. Because they can shoot at Bambi. :1orglaugh

They don't even bother to hit Google and see how many time the National Guard have been called out and USED EFFECTIVELY against US civilians armed or not.

You've been through boot camp so have an idea of what training is about these days for the elite units.

We agree at last. :thumbsup

I love the idiot ramblings of senile old third worlders.
They always imagine that Americans (including our soldiers) are the same as the third world trash they live with.

If your scenario ever happened most on this board would be scared shitless.

But the real truth is in the part I hi lited.

If the society broke down then the Government would have to proclaim ML. Otherwise the streets will belong to every bunch of Gangsters, far Left, far Right, Religious Nuts or just the type of people who run around the woods playing soldiers at the weekend. Anyone with the most guns and will to use them and would rule.

That might be the Generals in command of the Army, if they sit back it would be your worse nightmare.

http://www.mattfind.com/12345673215-...280_542745.jpg

Ordinary people like you Demon 12 Clicks would be barricading yourself indoors and hiding behind your sofas. The only thing that keeps you safe and free are the police, Army and ultimately the Government. Without them we're all in the shitter.

You're living in a dream world if you think you have the same capacity for violence as Gangs, Gangsters, Extremist groups or weekend soldiers (militia).

This shit still going on??

The problem with dreaming is in dreams, things turn out for the better. Reality is where things don't always go as smoothly as in dreams.

300,000k armed citizens march on the Government, local or Federal and demand what?

Or they start shooting people and then what?

In dreams everyone joins in and the Government is overthrown and the people who replace it are nice and lower taxes, make the unemployed work, send back all the illegal immigrants and solve all the Nations problems.

In reality a scenario like after the French, Russian, Chinese Revolutions and countless others take place. Society, Democracy and the rule of law is slung out the window. But Americans are different.

When The South overwhelmingly disagreed with the laws The North was passing. The North invaded and settled with?

Yes you're spot on. With the ARMY killing US citizens.

This says a lot about people with balls in Eastern Europe.

http://citynoise.org/upload/9355.jpg

Just one image of those who died trying to escape Communism.

they would've solved their problem days ago instead of having to walk it off

Awesome post man.

Arabs are intellectually incapable of democracy or negotiating any lasting peace :2 cents:

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/us.jpg

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/china.jpg

But don't worry, after your dream comes true the new leaders will make it all good again.

Middle Eastern Arabs*. If you look at history, the disconnect during the enlightenment caused the Middle Eastern Arabs to revert back to barbarianism.