reagan was one of many who saw the writting on the wall (no pun intended) and used the opportunity to make it look like he was responsible for something that was an eventuality. i really don't think reagan is up there with washington and lincoln. thats a far stretch, in my opinion.

They were heavy democratic leaning 2 years ago, what changed? Or are you going to argue Fox news is responsible?



How can this be hypocritical? Where the hell did that come from?

Just stating that you also believe that putting 30+million on entitlements will save money, so you are probably going to believe anything!


Reagan and Bush were spending 10k dollars on signs to tell people where the money was going? Totals of over 20 million?


If he didn't give a fuck, then why are you defending him?

Happy Birthday to the Gipper!

Try answering the questions, the big deficits are going on right now

So you don't think that Reagan getting the OPEC to increase oil production lowering the income of the USSR in oil export had nothing to do with the economy of the USSR?
Or that the competitive nature during the cold war gave the US an edge when we simple out spent them? Causing more economic harm?
We were a lot better off after Reagan was in office compared to when Carter was in office and the cold war was over

I see you have an outdated chart, is all of your arguments outdated as well?

great job on celebrating the man that invented them

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outdated? lmfao. you idiot. do you think facts have an expiration date? lmfao

And he did plenty of things...just not the things you wanted. Your argument switch is pointless as well.


Because without question you hate Obama for the same type of crap Reagan did. You even admitted a few times things were the same... but wont recognize that you haven't given Obama near the time Reagan was given. The hypocrisy runs thick in this thread.


First, this has nothing to do with what we're talking about, but if it did - you believe Reagan made the wall come down and the soviets fall, which is laughable to anyone that has ever studied history.

So even if I do believe that... it equals out with your beliefs.


Did I say they did? Are you now pretending that Bush, didn't over spend on stupid shit? And Reagan was perfect too, and never spent money on stupid shit? Oh the hypocrisy... the hypocrisy.


Because you judge him.... mostly for the same things other Presidents have done, that you support when they do it. I just hate twisted, viewed, slanted hypocrisy such as that.

Outdated? Reagan doubled the deficit, in the 80's... and we don't need to see that it's going up to know it's still going up, that's the point - look the mighty Reagan CREATED IT!

Obama simply copied your boy Reagan... and if you would look at what Obama has actually done, you would see a hell of a lot more Reagan than you would want shining through.

That was the rudest thing I've ever seen on GFY. You should be banned from the industry for making such a comment. I can't believe anyone wants to do business with someone who talks smack about someone's daughter.

Zero fucking class.

What made Reagan a GREAT president in my book was the following:

Paul Volcker had a plan to FUCK INFLATION once and for all. However, it will be EXTREMELY PAINFUL. Reagan bit the bullet. He put the country first instead of his reelection chances. If the plan went to shit, he knows he will go down as one of the most hated presidents. The chances of success were slim. But he knew that STAGFLATION is NOT the destiny of the American people. So he took the hit.

The same goes with spending cuts. America was well on its way to being a social democratic state (socialist), he dug his heels and cut spending and cut taxes. Very unpopular.

The result was the LONGEST peacetime economic expansion in the USA.

My favorite speech of his was the "shining city on a hill".

it wouldn't make sense to try to convince you from anything else than your own opinion anyways :2 cents:

but you can hardly educate me on my own history

I don't give a fuck...

Reagan increased spending more than any President in History. And his tax cuts had to be reversed, even though he took in more tax revenue, it was only the money he dished out, so it wasn't enough to pay anything back ie: massive deficit growth.

The rest is spot on though... Why does he get credit for peacetime expansion when it happened under other Presidents that reversed his policies?

And again, you offer nothing to the debate, come on, please atleast try!

Reagan got more for the money and yes, your chart doesn't reflect Obama, that's why it's outdated

The problem with regulations is that if they can move the business to mexico and aviod those regulations, and save money, they will.

We need employers here in the US

You have no idea if he got more for the money or not... and we're talking about Reagan, not anyone afterward. The chart shows the increase that started with HIS Presidency, we already know it has continued on - that has been brought up already.

And if we reflected what Obama has spent, by his doing directly.. It is a micro percentage compared to either Reagan or Bush Jr. A correction of the books, a proper non-hidden budget, isn't increased spending on Obama's part, it's the truth of what was already being spent, which you incorrectly blame on him.

If words brought the wall down (ie: what Reagan did) then this mans words had a far larger impact than JFK or Reagan's words, combined...

From within, East Berlin. “I want to tell you, I’m not here for or against any government. I came here to play rock ‘n’ roll for you East Berliners in the hope that one day all the barriers will be torn down”......And the crowd went wild after he made his bold appeal, according to newspaper reports at the time. source

- Bruce Springsteen 16 months before the Wall collapsed, live convert and on national tv.

Hey Reagan sucked but the Packers RULE! Pass it on!!

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I was thinking the same ....

It is graphic .... but he always brings in his daughter by posting first about her ( please, do not make me find the one of the shooting range : classic ).
He provoked it.

That is like Palin becoming upset because someone attacks a member of her family : she puts them out there for her glory ..

Ronald Reagen's decaying corpse can suck my big black cock and choke on my cum.

PS: Rape nancy reagan with a dog's paw.

wait, reagan tore down the berlin wall?

I did. I'm not sure what you're arguing, exactly. I'm assuming the Beatles -- and popular Western Culture -- had nothing to do with the wall coming down?

The wall came down because Socialism without democracy, freedom and the support of the people failed.

The west had little to do with it. When the people of the East had a taste of capitalism they voted the Communists back in... but too late, the system had failed.

Reagan was a police stooge, spying on his fellow actors, a puppet used to sell the policies of the rich to the American people.

A bad actor, dull mind and an uninteresting person.