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Michael O 02-09-2011 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiderCash_Dominik (Post 17902937)
Is Chris Mallick anywhere near this red pass thing?

No. see further down.

Michael O 02-09-2011 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by greenlab (Post 17903484)
can you give us some updates ? Will will have both EUR and USD cards ? Witch bank will be issuing the cards ? What about the fees etc

The issuing bank will be Choice bank same bank some other companies uses, we own the bin of the cards so if there are any issues we can move away from the bank with no problems.

Michael O 02-09-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NanoBot (Post 17903514)
Well, I hate to be "that guy"... but I'm staying far the fuck away from this and any other company who uses Mike's GFY username as their sheep herder.

Nothing against Mike himself. I think he just does his job and collects his checks, doubt he knows or cares why and how these companies use his username.

I care I care alot. I took this position because of the possibilities, the history and size of the company, I will be involved not only in support but do a lot of other things as well for me I have gotten the perfect position.

Michael O 02-09-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 17903966)
I am going to be honest. I am a Zombaio client and this makes me very uneasy that you're going to be involved. I'm sorry "MichaelO", but the whole Epass situation is an absolute fucking nightmare, (I am not accusing you of anything, but the fact is you spoke on their behalf). That whole situation is still fresh, it was only a few months ago you were on here promising people that wires would be paid out.

I understand that and I am sorry for everything that happened.
I never deliberately lied to anyone I were told by people I trusted and had worked with for 5 years that wires were being sent out and everything would be OK but they screwed me over as well as thousands of customers. If you don't think I am angry at the people who screwed me over and made me look very bad, not only costing me my job but the chance of getting a new job in the industry again, then you are very mistaken.
Chris screwed over thousands of customers and most of his 30+ employees even to the point you wouldn't believe.
I have absolutely no positive feelings about the management in that company and I hope they get theirs when time comes.

arock10 02-09-2011 02:31 PM

top notch

greenlab 02-09-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17904476)
The issuing bank will be Choice bank same bank some other companies uses, we own the bin of the cards so if there are any issues we can move away from the bank with no problems.

So this means only USD cards ? no EUR cards ?

Choice bank is not a very good "choice" in my opinion as all other programs (payoneer, paxum etc) use also choice bank so when the shit will hit the fan all programs will be left without the issuing bank. Owning the BIN is good in theory but in practice moving is not that easy...

Klen 02-09-2011 03:16 PM

Does this mean if you are affiliate who promote zombaio only based sponsor,can be paid over debit card instead check?That is something what is missing badly on ccbill.

Michael O 02-09-2011 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by greenlab (Post 17904611)
So this means only USD cards ? no EUR cards ?

Choice bank is not a very good "choice" in my opinion as all other programs (payoneer, paxum etc) use also choice bank so when the shit will hit the fan all programs will be left without the issuing bank. Owning the BIN is good in theory but in practice moving is not that easy...

Yes we will only have US$.

Michael O 02-09-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17904647)
Does this mean if you are affiliate who promote zombaio only based sponsor,can be paid over debit card instead check?That is something what is missing badly on ccbill.

Yes. You can transfer the money from you Zombaio account to your RedPass account.
Which I think is great and will benefit Zombaio only programs.

greenlab 02-09-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17904811)
Yes we will only have US$.

hmm..so what will be different from paxum for example ?

you use the same bank, paxum fees are pretty low (2$/atm withdrawal both domestic/international) .....what can you offer better ?

payoneer is the same but more expensive so probably your fees will be similar to paxum, but otherwise i dont think what you could offer better...

Denny 02-09-2011 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by greenlab (Post 17904844)
hmm..so what will be different from paxum for example ?

you use the same bank, paxum fees are pretty low (2$/atm withdrawal both domestic/international) .....what can you offer better ?

payoneer is the same but more expensive so probably your fees will be similar to paxum, but otherwise i dont think what you could offer better...

:2 cents::thumbsup

brassmonkey 02-09-2011 05:10 PM

ok thanx man ill check out redpass

uno 02-09-2011 05:20 PM

I'll definitely check it out when it launches. Michael is a good guy and doesn't deserve the animosity those feel towards epass.

CaptainHowdy 02-09-2011 05:26 PM

Talk about rubbing salt on a wound ...

Michael O 02-09-2011 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by greenlab (Post 17904844)
hmm..so what will be different from paxum for example ?

you use the same bank, paxum fees are pretty low (2$/atm withdrawal both domestic/international) .....what can you offer better ?

payoneer is the same but more expensive so probably your fees will be similar to paxum, but otherwise i dont think what you could offer better...

We have a few things that will be unique.

Si 02-09-2011 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17902131)
Yes you can transfer funds from your Zombaio account to your RedPass account instantly.
Same if you promote sites thru Zombaio's affiliate system you will be able to transfer the money to your RedPass account.

This is going to be great! :thumbsup

greenlab 02-10-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17904936)
We have a few things that will be unique.

Give us some teasers at least....right now it's just that we are launching a prepaid card, but it is not yet ready (even if we are doing the official launch at Xbiz) and it will use the same bank as everyone else...

Klen 02-10-2011 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17904936)
We have a few things that will be unique.

Well i really dont care about ewallet part,it's ability to get payment as affiliate/sponsor to it what is good.

lagcam 02-10-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by greenlab (Post 17906749)
Give us some teasers at least....right now it's just that we are launching a prepaid card, but it is not yet ready (even if we are doing the official launch at Xbiz) and it will use the same bank as everyone else...

What is the point? Whatever they say you will disect it and question it.

If you are not a Zombaio customer then reality is that redpass probably won't have anything vastly different or significantly superior to paxum, but if you are a Zombaio customer, or affiliate of a sponsor who uses Zombaio then the card offers great potential to save money and get your funds quicker......even at the same or slightly higher rates than Paxum.

Just wait till it is launched, scrutinise the detail and then either use it or don't.

cams2chat 02-10-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 17907594)
What is the point? Whatever they say you will disect it and question it.

If you are not a Zombaio customer then reality is that redpass probably won't have anything vastly different or significantly superior to paxum, but if you are a Zombaio customer, or affiliate of a sponsor who uses Zombaio then the card offers great potential to save money and get your funds quicker......even at the same or slightly higher rates than Paxum.

Just wait till it is launched, scrutinise the detail and then either use it or don't.

I was at Vegas for the Consumer Electronic show and I went to Internext to ask some questions of Payoneer, Paxum and the others who have stepped up post Epassporte. I am looking for spreading the risk and everyone there was issuing cards through the same bank and now Redpass issued by the same bank. It is a worry. To be honest the presentation and answers didnt excite me enough to get a card let alone start paying people through them.

I am more likely to do business with Redpass over the others solely because I am a Zombaio customer but talk about an uneasy feeling regarding the banking.

Some thoughts
* As all are in the Adult high risk area can ones problems contaminate the others at the bank?
* Owning the BIN is great but if moving to another bank is simple why not do it now to distance yourself from the others?
* Why are the fees so different between cards if the base product/issuing bank is the same
* Why would anyone switch to Redpass to have another card issued by the same bank?

FatBastard 02-11-2011 12:10 AM

Looking forward to the details
lets hope this will be a great epass replacement

Seth Manson 02-11-2011 12:22 AM

Michael O is in motion :thumbsup

GonZo 02-11-2011 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17904509)
I understand that and I am sorry for everything that happened.
I never deliberately lied to anyone I were told by people I trusted and had worked with for 5 years that wires were being sent out and everything would be OK but they screwed me over as well as thousands of customers. If you don't think I am angry at the people who screwed me over and made me look very bad, not only costing me my job but the chance of getting a new job in the industry again, then you are very mistaken.
Chris screwed over thousands of customers and most of his 30+ employees even to the point you wouldn't believe.
I have absolutely no positive feelings about the management in that company and I hope they get theirs when time comes.

Have you seen middle men?
He sure as shit is trying to rewrite history as well with his movie based on a true story.

Interesting points in it..
- He takes credit for being the brains in what I suppose is supposed to be Epoch/Paycom. Funny those of us that were around know that this was a large business way before Chris was a part of it.

- If 247billing.com is supposed to be Epoch/Paycom then I guess that makes Clay and Joel drug addicts and pedos? At least thats how he portrayed them in the movie oh and morons.

I guess the most interesting point is this movie cost 20 million to make but didnt even crack a million at the box office. And after its released all the sudden epassporte cant pay? For a guy that in the movie fixes impossible problems I guess he found the first one he couldnt fix.

The truth is though at the end of the day whos still in business and who is hiding out.

greenlab 02-15-2011 01:05 PM

any updates regarding RedPass ?

ContentPimp 02-20-2011 12:44 PM

im just fine with my paxum, it works better than epass ever did and it costs less too, withdraw limits are higher, plus there's NO bullshit red tape to go through with paxum...

no idea why there's a need for an other mastercard service, if it was visa electron i'd think about using it too

Davy 02-20-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ladida (Post 17902836)
Don't like to be pesimistic, but i don't like this. In the light of all the previous failures, it always came down to people biting more then they can chew

Epass was not a failure. It was a great success. The only problem is that Mallick's movie didn't take off. He had a great success in stealing all the money, though.

Konda 02-22-2011 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by greenlab (Post 17904844)
hmm..so what will be different from paxum for example ?

you use the same bank, paxum fees are pretty low (2$/atm withdrawal both domestic/international) .....what can you offer better ?

payoneer is the same but more expensive so probably your fees will be similar to paxum, but otherwise i dont think what you could offer better...

One thing that is different from the other ones is that hey have the RedPass Rewards, so you earn points when you spent money (every dollar spent = one point).

They also offer tools and APIs for developers.

Chosen 02-22-2011 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Konda (Post 17932539)
One thing that is different from the other ones is that hey have the RedPass Rewards, so you earn points when you spent money (every dollar spent = one point).

They also offer tools and APIs for deveolopers.

Where did you get this info?

Konda 02-23-2011 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chosen (Post 17932944)
Where did you get this info?

Quite easy to find if you know where to look ;)

Machete_ 02-23-2011 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17901754)
I am happy to announce that I will be part of RedPass.com which will launch on Feb 28th. At RedPass we will strive to be the ultimate payroll solution for the adult industry.

RedPass as a sister company to Zombaio.com, is owned by Cawen Financial Group. Cawen Financial Group is registered as a financial institution in Europe.

My primary responsibilities will be sales and support, I look forward to working with everyone. If you are at XbizLA and would like more information about RedPass, look me up. I will be here for the next couple of days. I can also be reached at [email protected]

I don't get it. Weren't you hired by Paxum?

Machete_ 02-23-2011 03:10 AM

BTW, i found a cool logo for your RedPass

http://behindthenewsleeds.files.word.../communism.jpg

~Evilin~ 02-24-2011 12:28 PM

Your money is in motion

willwank 02-24-2011 12:34 PM

Past and current role of Swedish national Mr Jesper Thornblad please.
Also who are the principals and who owns Zombaio and RedPass?

/thnx

Michael O 02-24-2011 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by willwank (Post 17938398)
Past and current role of Swedish national Mr Jesper Thornblad please.
Also who are the principals and who owns Zombaio and RedPass?

/thnx

Zombaio LLC is in no way involved in the previous accusations that have come up regarding the issue I assume you refer to. This is an employee at Zombaios tech support. He is not a principal of the company, and has no authority or power when it comes to decision making in the company. Zombaio cannot confirm nor deny what has happen, since we are not in control of what our employees do on their spare time. This is a case were the employee unfortunately chose to use his business email for private matters. However, Zombaio consider this to be a serious offence and have taken some internal actions.

I will let you know as soon as I have more information about the parent company of Zombaio/Redpass

willwank 02-24-2011 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17939072)
Zombaio LLC is in no way involved in the previous accusations that have come up regarding the issue I assume you refer to. This is an employee at Zombaios tech support. He is not a principal of the company, and has no authority or power when it comes to decision making in the company. Zombaio cannot confirm nor deny what has happen, since we are not in control of what our employees do on their spare time. This is a case were the employee unfortunately chose to use his business email for private matters. However, Zombaio consider this to be a serious offence and have taken some internal actions.

I will let you know as soon as I have more information about the parent company of Zombaio/Redpass

Thank you Michael.

I wasn't referring to or naming anything in my original question simply because I knew this person could be anywhere, or out of the loop. But yes, what prompted my question was the information on where allegedly this Zombaio employee tried to defraud thousands of Swedish businesses in a classic bogus invoice scam. In the process he used Zombaio' servers to communicate. In the light of history I am sure you and Zombaio can appriciate that the slightest link to, or association (be it indirectly) with, anything fraudulent or other criminal allegations will frighten a lot of program owners and webmasters in general.

Michael O 02-25-2011 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by willwank (Post 17939206)
Thank you Michael.

I wasn't referring to or naming anything in my original question simply because I knew this person could be anywhere, or out of the loop. But yes, what prompted my question was the information on where allegedly this Zombaio employee tried to defraud thousands of Swedish businesses in a classic bogus invoice scam. In the process he used Zombaio' servers to communicate. In the light of history I am sure you and Zombaio can appriciate that the slightest link to, or association (be it indirectly) with, anything fraudulent or other criminal allegations will frighten a lot of program owners and webmasters in general.


Anytime and I understand you wanted an answer to this :)

Harmon 02-25-2011 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17935079)
I don't get it. Weren't you hired by Paxum?

Quoted for answers

JFK 02-25-2011 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 17904902)
I'll definitely check it out when it launches. Michael is a good guy and doesn't deserve the animosity those feel towards epass.

I agree:thumbsup

Machete_ 02-25-2011 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 17939691)
Quoted for answers

Michael is dodging it.

Something is up.

Michael O 02-25-2011 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 17939691)
Quoted for answers

I were but got an offer from Redpass that I couldn't turn down for different reasons but professionally and personally.

CyberHustler 02-25-2011 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17939758)
I were but got an offer from Redpass that I couldn't turn down for different reasons but professionally and personally.

http://kickrocs.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/son.jpg

Michael O 02-25-2011 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NanoBot (Post 17940015)

Do a little research about Zombaio/Redpass and its more than just Adult.
Their main office is an hour or two from where I were born and raised so if/when I return home its nice to be close to the home office. The closest I have been in the past is 6 time zones and on a good day its only 5 now and I think sometime in the near future it will be 0.
I have nothing bad to say about Paxum, I got an better offer and both personally and professionally it were a better fit.

mightyjoe 02-25-2011 08:55 PM

ok so can a webmaster use this card or only intended for program owners?

Konda 02-25-2011 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mightyjoe (Post 17941696)
ok so can a webmaster use this card or only intended for program owners?

Webmasters can use it too. It's the same as Paxum, but just a lot more profesionally setup + some additional features that Paxum doesn't have.

greenlab 02-27-2011 08:57 PM

today is the day ... !:)

Chosen 02-27-2011 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by greenlab (Post 17944480)
today is the day ... !:)

Yeah today probably will be announced the new launch date: 31th of March...

will76 02-27-2011 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 17903966)
I am going to be honest. I am a Zombaio client and this makes me very uneasy that you're going to be involved. I'm sorry "MichaelO", but the whole Epass situation is an absolute fucking nightmare, (I am not accusing you of anything, but the fact is you spoke on their behalf). That whole situation is still fresh, it was only a few months ago you were on here promising people that wires would be paid out.

You would be any chance use segpay?

If you get worried because a sales rep moves from a failed 3rd party processor to another would love to see how you feel when the CEO of a failed company goes and starts a new one.

I know Michael was the mouth piece and you guys want to shoot the messenger. But I wonder how many of you who wouldn't use a company Michael is a rep for, but are perfectly fine using a company like segpay.

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17904492)
I care I care alot. I took this position because of the possibilities, the history and size of the company, I will be involved not only in support but do a lot of other things as well for me I have gotten the perfect position.

basically, zombiao is a legit company that has been around a couple years now and doing well. Paxum is a start up run by a bunch of penis pill pushers. At least give Michael credit to spot the solid company and going with the one he believes will be around a long time.

FreeHugeMovies 02-27-2011 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17901978)
I would really think that anything with "pass" in the name that is related to an "online wallet" might not be the best marketing route.

If the product is good and is legit, does the name really matter?

blonda80 02-28-2011 12:04 AM

good luck with it Michael :)

FatBastard 02-28-2011 12:18 AM

Looking forward for all the info


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