I can tell already that most of you think that just because you sell porn you have to act like arrogant buffoons or some sort of playa pimps slash cool jerks. Good thing I know how most of you "cyber pimps" look like.
Last time I saw your show in Vegas I thought it was W.O.W. or some comics convention, So no sweat captain.
Peace.

I just ejaculated on your shoe.

Don't let these people get to you. It's just the overall attitude of this place cause of the domain name chosen. Just ignore the trolls, haters and with a bit of work you'll find some good biz here.

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Good luck

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i found the peeps over at http://adultwebmasterfriends.com to be much more helpful and biz orientated.

yeah ignore the spam too :321GFY

To all the new faces (affils) around here, welcome and here's the deal. :)

The adult biz is a lot of competition for an ever growing smaller pie, tightening ratios, traffic which is very competitive and small (everyone clawing at the pie) profit margins.

Tubes (they were inevitable with technology and tube script software venders pushing the way to riches) gave it away and killed ratios for all but the very savvy, long established or highly consolidated.

If I was young I would go drive truck or something. The porn biz is tough as nails to earn a dollar anymore for a noob with no resources.

With that said good luck to all the new affils I see around here.

Anything is possible. The real question is. How bad do you want to succeed in this biz? Cause it is only a job now. No easy money for the vast majority of us affils.

It wont be easy and it will have a major price as you give the best working years of your life to this, most people think, dieing biz.

There will always be money made but is the price to pay now too great for the returns. I think for a young, smart guy with no real knowledge and nothing to invest but his time, the answer is yes.

Welcome to GFY :)

If you can earn $80K a year at any walk in trucker place (ok all these guys around here wouldnt pass the drug test so mute point lol)

How long is it gonna take a 19 y/o newb to earn that as an affil?

5 years IF he's good. Real good.

Do you really want to give a job up you can earn a living on, get benefits with and I know you didnt miss this.. cause your smart..

Get 4 years of vacation for the same effort. Actually driving truck for a young guy is prob less of a pain in the ass and more healthy than this computer work everyday.

80 K is serious cash jack. It is what I should have done as a young man in my 20s. Once you own the rig.. 200K/year. Id own a rig by now. Instead I own domains that dont sell.

Edited so only the speedy guys can see. :)

Peace out and good luck to all.

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LOL You are amazing. I almost mentioned you and a couple others as being the only guys to see. :)

Nah I just figured if the guy isnt here then he aint much of an affil and why am I wasting my time.

I'm getting meaner. Notice. :) Eventually I'll just whip these guys the bird and tell em to go f off in mainstream.

Basicly what I said and edited was we dont need anymore competition so gfy.. in a "Minn nice" sort of way. :)

Welcome to GFY. If you need high quality mainstream content, check out my sig :)

Welcome aboard!

Actually 488 I just was getting too wordy but if you liked the post, you can repost it, no prob. I just dont want to be so f'n gabby all the time.

Words are time. Time is money. But I wanted to tell the young guys this is not 1999 anymore.

One things for sure. We have way more fun around here then mainstream boards.

EVERYONE is making BIG money in mainstream. Well then get the fuck out of adult.

Some of us are too far into the woods on our path. We cant cross over to another path. We can only go forward. Last thing we need is another yoyo looking for a shortcut.

There is the woods. Enter it and good luck. Dont go in too far.

This guy will never understand my woods analogies. So I will prob get the bird and am now a bad guy. :)

Anyhow I gave ya some truth which is hard to find around here so accept it in the giving spirit.

Truth: Adult is dead for newbs. And as Alice said. "Schools Out"

Guys in there 40s and 50s get my woods analogies. :)

Is Meatman still teaching. :) j/k

I wish he still owned Meatcash. About that time is when it all went to hell but that is another thread.

When the money was easy it was a more jolly time. Now that many affils have to work long hours many smiles are almost gone. Only the guys selling something are smiling like a salesman would smile. The guys working to generate signups are not so happy anymore.

It is like when the gold dried up in the 1850s.

The affil has the pan and works harder than ever all day to find gold.
The sponsors all promise gold still in their streams and they all smile.

Truth: Most streams have dried up or are not worth the effort anymore like old mines becoming abandoned.

This is the mood in Feb 2011. So we consolidate which is more long hours.

It has become a job. A clerical job. Paying secretary wages if you are lucky.

Barely worth it anymore for many. But we are indeed too far into the woods so now we work HARDER for less as the thickets get more dense and are days get harder.

Our dispositions get worse as time goes on. We feel the sponsor has betrayed us.. somehow.

So deep down we hate most sponsors who are mostly scammers.

The shit I could and may someday say as my disposition deteriates and my faith in most sponsors deteriates.

I have winners but 95% of you (now) suck. (smile on that) :)

break time :) i need a tune



Sorry but dont you get tired of all the bs around here

Most of you stopped selling way back. Now the major best selling sponsors are dieing. What next?

Noone is building good new sites. OK kudos to ND for their new site. But it is a sign of adult health.. no new sites.. and the afflliate death from no good new sites.

The profitability is not there I guess to build good new sites anymore.

And with Howard Stern now preaching how great youporn is everyday.

So what are the good mainstream boards? :)

Fucking youporn now gets a ton of fucking searches. Check Google.

Is it all dieing?

Consolidate, consolidate, until you are the last rat on the highest timber.

Watch as the SS YouTube sails buy.

Maybe we are the last rats. Time will tell.

Peace out.

welcome aboard

I'm still around :) Howard talked to Tabitha Stevens the other day (love her, one of my fav people) and Tabitha mentioned how she is now producing porn rather than starring. He asked her how she makes money when it is all free on You Porn.
He asks everyone in porn that question now days.

Well she couldnt really explain the nuts and bolts in such little time but the point is the whole world knows our biz is in trouble.

How in trouble is this biz really? Obviously all sponsors tell you all is well. WMs have their pride so they are always doing well in public.

But I get the feeling me and you are the last rats on the ship. We consolidated to the best progs and sites. We have high ground. This is all we can do. Pray Nifty Stats keeps popping the grey tab.

I dont fucking know. I do know this. I WILL be on the last ship on the highest timber along with you. I think we can stay floating but we will have to wait and see what the next two years brings. We must keep a lean overhead. We must work like crazy but work smartly.

We are either going to adapt or die. :)

Does the proverbial Mickey D's await.. our greatest fear. :) Which I always thought was better than stocking shelves late night in a supermarket. My greatest fear. lol

Luckily, I am almost old enuf to be a Walmart greeter. :)

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welcome :winkwink:

And to the op, I sometimes camp in a thread a while. One thread. Post nowhere else. What are the odds I chose this one tonight. :)

Good luck Traffic Guru and hope you enjoyed some classic ramblings on THE greatest board on the interwebz...

GFY :thumbsup

Where you are free to say anything. (within rules) You will probably be alone saying it but you can say or post anything. Very liberal and progressive thinkers in that way I would say. :) It is a great way to truly waste time. :Oh crap

And you can not shock these members. Usually they will shock you. :)

Most people love to post (like me) and not read. So noone reads anything anyhow.

Now go fuck yourself and dont ever bother me again. :) lol j/k :winkwink:

Welcome to GFY, enjoy your stay! :)

moving to adult would be a big mistake at this time.

don't risk any money you can't afford to lose. expect to lose money just for the sake of the lesson you might learn losing it.

don't trust anyone here.

go fuck yourself :)


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There's big difference between "moving" and "trying". I am not moving anything, just trying something new.

And you will fail like the trailer trash cracka you are....I hope NOBODY helps you....That will probably come to be true anyway.

Whatever Tyrone. One thing for sure is that I don't need your help. I have plenty of knowledge on how to generate quality traffic and traffic is the king. You just keep on pimping your ghetto skanks. Hopefully I'll see you in the news one day. Cops love lowlifes like you, so get your "It's racist" quotes ready.

if you can produce traffic on your own....then why not make yourself your own product to sell as well?

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most of us still doing it do it because we enjoy the lifestyle and the business, but the money has dropped off a cliff because of radical changes in the marketplace.

be wary, do your experiments, see what happens. manage your expectations.

and I'll repeat - don't trust anyone here.

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the recipe to make this thread

1 giant douchebag (that's you, OP)
5 people willing to point out how big of a douchebag OP is
20 affiliates kissing OP's ass in hopes he'll bring in at least one sale

oh and lol @ "tyrone". that line was classic.

good read.

Certainly up for discussing biz if you are looking for solid programs to promote.

We just won "Best Niche Studio" from Xbiz Award Show and last week we were featured in a New York Magazine article (print and online). Homegrown Video is literally the original company to sell homemade porn, established in 1982. Last year we also helped lead a group that fianlly won a seven years in the trenches Patent suit against Acacia Tech.

Why am I going on? Well, hopefully to prove that some people do mean business around here.

Feel free to due diligence us - we have been around long enough to provide plenty of source material.

Good luck finding the right company, no matter which one you decide.

You're leaving out one more type - People that probably came to this forum because they thought that being anywhere near word "porn" is going to make them cool nad give them even more access to free porn. They probably live with their mom, have a part time job in fast food joint, and pride themselves with their level 35 weapons in some game filled with monsters and dragons. And that would probably be you.
Overall Im starting to have fun here. All I said is Hello and a bunch of board warriors got on my ass because of some board name I picked. Whatever kids. Just don't get pissed if I pop up 6 month later with some killer idea and end up making more in 6 month than you did in 7 years. Good luck.

Actually, homegrown Video was one of the companies I have heard about and was told good things about you.
It will be a few weeks/month before I get the grip but I will be in contact with you guys.

Welcome to the mix.

If you wanna go fishing for whales. Hit me up :thumbsup

Welcome, "built it and they will come"

Looking forward to it. We will be here when you are ready to move forward.

For now though... going to just kick back and enjoy the witty repartee - you're slaying me with some of those posts :thumbsup

Congrats to the winners :thumbsup

welcome to gfy :)

This board has lot's of assholes but it's also got some great info and contacts. I've gotten lots of content off here and I hope you have good luck with that as well.
Have fun!

If you are REALLY a traffic guru in mainstream .... then you and I should talk some business ...