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borked 02-10-2011 03:32 PM
I was actually going to reply "who are 'we' to say when unsociability means death?" but I think I'll just let this quote say it for me...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17907077)
You can judge a society by how they treat their weakest members.
...Mahatma Gandhi
Assisted suicide is one thing, euthanasia is another....

Sid70 02-10-2011 04:02 PM
FUck you, idiot.

TheLegacy 02-10-2011 04:21 PM
Perhaps start a thread called - "Young useless trolls should be euthanized"

Lint 02-10-2011 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 17906981)
It's actually come from Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the world's leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist of our times (nearly 850 papers in peer review journals). There's more info below
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I'd like to repeat the Flu/Alzheimer's connection that so many of you have asked about. According to Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the world's leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist of our times (nearly 850 papers in peer review journals), if an individual has had five consecutive flu shots his/her chances of getting Alzheimer's Disease is ten times higher than if they had one, two or no shots. I asked Dr. Fudenberg why this was so and he said it was due to the mercury and aluminum that is in every flu shot (and some childhood shots). The gradual mercury and aluminum buildup in the brain causes cognitive dysfunction. Is that why Alzheimer's is expected to quadruple? Notes: Recorded from Dr. Fudenberg's speech at the NVIC International Vaccine Conference, Arlington, VA September, 1997. Quoted with permission. Alzheimer's to quadruple statement is from John's Hopkins Newsletter Nov 1998. Dr. Fudenberg's web address is www.nitrf.org.
http://www.doctorbob.com/vd--flu-shot-season.html
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Few people are going to 'discover' the link as it would lose them too much money from old people no longer receiving vaccines and there would be huge payouts to those who have been damaged. The only things the scientists will 'discover' are the things that they've been paid to and the those are the things that will make the Pharms a lot of ca$h
Quote:
http://www.casewatch.org/board/med/f...995order.shtml

Herman Hugh Fudenberg, M.D., Ph.D., is part of a small but noisy network of misguided health professionals who claim that vaccinations are dangerous and that mercury poisoning is a major cause of autism. He routinely advises against giving immunizations during infancy and early childhood. He has also promoted the dubious notion that "transfer factor" is an effective treatment for autism.

In November 1995, the South Carolina medical board found Fudenberg "guilty of engaging in dishonorable, unethical, or unprofessional conduct," fined him $10,000, ordered him to surrender his license to prescribe controlled substances (narcotic drugs), and placed his license on indefinite suspension. The Board's order, shown below, said that he could apply for probationary status if he underwent a neuropsychiatric examination and was judged capable of practicing medicine safely. In March 1996, he was permitted to resume practice under terms of probation that did not permit him to prescribe any drugs. His license expired in January 2004; and in March 2004, he applied to have it reinstated. However, after a hearing in which the Board considered a neuropsychatric report issued in 2003, Fudenberg agreed to remain in a "retired" status and withdrew his application for reactivation of his license. The South Carolina board's Web site lists his license as "lapsed."

Fudenberg's lack of a license does not appear to have stopped him from offering medical services to the public. His Neuro Immuno Therapeutics Research Foundation Web site offers the following services: review of past medical records ($750 per inch); determining what tests are needed, ordering the tests, and interpreting the tests ($750); and determining which therapy will work (usually 2 hours @ $750/hour).
More interesting stuff: http://briandeer.com/wakefield/hugh-fudenberg.htm

850 peer reviewed papers? Not according to pubmed: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?t...gh%20Fudenberg :1orglaugh

Quote:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract

After adjustment for age, sex and education, past exposure to vaccines against diphtheria or tetanus, poliomyelitis and influenza was associated with lower risk for Alzheimer's disease (odds ratio [OR] 0.41, 95% confidence interval [CI] 0.27-0.62; OR 0.60, 95% CI 0.37-0.99; and OR 0.75, 95% CI 0.54-1.04 respectively) than no exposure to these vaccines...Past exposure to vaccines against diphtheria or tetanus, poliomyelitis and influenza may protect against subsequent development of Alzheimer's disease.
Instead of taking your time, doing 1 minute of research, you copy paste the first result you could find on Google on this quack. :thumbsup

Barry-xlovecam 02-10-2011 04:58 PM
When my stepfather Ben was 78 he died of pneumonia — he also was institutionalized with Alzheimer's Disease at the time.

A decision was made not to actively treat this, his second case of pneumonia and he expired in the hospital. He was pulling the tubes out of his arms in the hospital. Maybe, he had, from time to time, enough cognizance to understand his condition.

I would like to think that what happened was an act that was in accordance with Ben's final wishes ... It surly is hell to have to live in a state of dementia ...

wehateporn 02-10-2011 05:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lint (Post 17907422)
More interesting stuff: http://briandeer.com/wakefield/hugh-fudenberg.htm

850 peer reviewed papers? Not according to pubmed: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?t...gh%20Fudenberg :1orglaugh



Instead of taking your time, doing 1 minute of research, you copy paste the first result you could find on Google on this quack. :thumbsup
It's a pattern you see time and time again, as soon as you become aware of the scale of corruption within the FDA and the Pharms you learn that any studies they give you will be purely marketing and that they will have covered any problems up. A healthy nation isn't profitable, start injecting them with toxic metals the moment they come out the womb.

Here's when Bayer were caught knowingly selling HIV contaminated drugs https://youtube.com/watch?v=wg-52mHIjhs

This guy puts things into perpective https://youtube.com/watch?v=y3XlJB7J5-o

If you speak out against them they will smear and discredit you.

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PornMD 02-10-2011 05:17 PM
Question: Let's say even through our system is way in the red, there's about $2 trillion of taxmoney per year. Let's say that every year, there are 2 million people between the age of 70-120 who are on their deathbed and even though this next part won't likely be true, hypothetically speaking, let's say that to keep these people alive for one more day costs $500,000 each per day. Would you keep any of them alive for a day or longer? How many of them? Which ones? Why spend it on them vs. spending it on people with many many years left of life to live?

So yea, this is an overblown picture, but it's sort of what comes to mind with this topic. My grandma died after having a major stroke...not immediately after, but over 2 years after. She didn't speak a single word after she had had this stroke, and while did move the slightest bit, didn't really function much except to open her mouth the slightest bit when people would feed her. She was at the hospital for most of that time then was brought home and had 24 hour care.

Fastforward 12 years and even a small fraction of the money spent on keeping her alive for that time would help my parents, siblings etc. get through this rough economy. It would hard to be "that guy" that says fuck it, let her die, but it's just one of those things that feels a bit backwards in the scope of things.

Agent 488 02-10-2011 05:19 PM
you're dealing with a guy who looks to abovetopsecret.com for health information - no joke. don't bother.

Quote:
Originally Posted by harvey (Post 17907111)
I don't know how is it related, specially when most of the funds comes from governments, UN, Bill Gates, World Bank, Rockefeller Foundation and so on. Anyway, I know GFY isn't the place to discuss reality when la-la-land is way funnier, so let me ask you a question: how many lives did you save in your entire life? How many lives did WHO save?

yeah, that's what I thought

PS: you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about (surprise!!!!), swine flu vaccine has saved or prevented death for HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of people, maybe you'll remember that vaccine came out to solve an epidemic burst. But no, I'm pretty sure you don't remember :Oh crap In my country all medical corporations were strongly against it until the government produced and distributed it FOR FREE. All of the sudden, all medical and insurance corporations were the biggest supporters. But of course, your views have nothing to do with what these companies PR say :1orglaugh

wehateporn 02-10-2011 05:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17907498)
you're dealing with a guy who looks to abovetopsecret.com for health information - no joke. don't bother.
Mercola is the best, strongly recommended. Clearly one wouldn't take health information from abovetopsecret, but one could certainly follow a link from there.

Once a person becomes aware of the scale of corruptions and lies, he certainly wouldn't head to CNN, BBC or any mainstream tv channel or a newspaper to get advice on an injection that's making companies billions of dollars. Basic common sense!

The reason I'm so passionately anti-vaccine is because a vaccine took down my elder sister and left her in a total mess for the rest of her life. She was perfectly healthy up until she received the vaccine at the age of 8, then she had the vaccine, downhill from there. People will say "but they have saved more lives overall", however the more you look into it the more you realize that vaccines are a Superstition

Kiopa_Matt 02-10-2011 05:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 17907062)
The World Health Organization - Funded by the same family as the NAZIs
Quit listening to Alex Jones. You do know that the WHO isn't a private organization, right?

wehateporn 02-10-2011 06:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt (Post 17907545)
Quit listening to Alex Jones. You do know that the WHO isn't a private organization, right?
Whoever gives them the highest donations can have their way. They will set health policies and projects on those issues, the issues that bring in the most donations. They are not looking to the actual needs of the world's poorest or sickest, but instead how to get donations. Money makes the world go around.

Also many of the 'Experts' who work for the WHO have conflicts of interest, even the BBC will tell us this
WHO swine flu experts 'linked' with drug companies http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10235558

It's very sweet that some of you are so trusting, but unfortunately your trust is misplaced. When I was younger I had my head in the sand and it was a very nice place to be

cykoe6 02-10-2011 06:26 PM
I will gladly agree to euthanasia...... as long as we can also agree to retroactively abort worthless punk kids up until age 25. :winkwink:

Spunky 02-10-2011 06:40 PM
I'd rather be dead than be like that

izzynew 02-10-2011 07:55 PM
Lady Warnock, 84... could be she's lost it:
Quote:
"I feel there is a wider argument that if somebody absolutely, desperately wants to die because they are a burden to their family or the state, then I think they too should be allowed to die."
If a person with dementia doesn't know their own name most of the time, how the hell do they know whether they are being a burden on anyone?
Some cultures still respect the elderly. Of course those are usually the cultures where money is not the primary part of the equation.

My grandmother died a couple of years ago - death certificate said 'senile dementia'. She'd have hated that.
Right up until the end she had her salient moments. And she didn't want to die.
We knew that very clearly, so, although had she been in severe pain we would have agreed to 'helping her', as she was not in pain, we as a family, did all we could to help her feel comfortable.
This is a very personal thing for people with dementia and their families and should never be put on the political agenda.


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