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If you're a victim of the Epassporte collapse and you believe that you've been defrauded, then file charges. It's the right thing to do and you will not be alone. |
You'd think someone would put a bullet in his head, webmasters are pussies. I didn't use epassporte.
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true dat! webmaster are not insane maniacs who start killing people over some money .. some of us have families and dont want to give it all up over some money that was lost in motion :2 cents::thumbsup |
I don't remember seeing a post or mention of you needing people to come forward.
I think if people knew you couldn't get one single confirmed complaint, that many would have offered to. This would have been exactly where I started to look for a few if I needed (as you did sort of with your original post, you got lots of info, but apparently no confirmed sources). There is several known, reputable businessmen who lost money in the whole thing. |
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At this stage, I think that what's important is for people who know what happened to step forward and speak up. Get in touch with me and go on the record. It's as simple as that. It's an interesting phenomenon, message boards and anonymity. A lot of big talk, but not so much walk! |
Webmasters are pretty chill, it sucks to see people get victimized though. It is almost guaranteed that these rip-offs are pre-calculated as low risk because of the perceived or real state of apathy or retribution from "webmasters".
People in foreign countries are often seen as an easy mark because it is very expensive, time consuming and exposing to try to reclaim lost money in due legal process. If you examine the GFY threads and as stated above, the people who were a legal risk got paid off. Everyone else, well they can go fuck themselves. Welcome to adult. |
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Also, when you were soliciting interviews and such, I think that a lot of people still had hope and felt that if they came out they had absolutely no shot of getting any of their money. A lot of others were just lazy. |
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face it like it is: many people used Epassporte to avoid taxes and filing a criminal case would raise the question how much money was hidden there over the years. then you suddenly don't have just the costs for the lawyer, the slim chance of success but also a good chance of having the IRS on your ass. Also many users were from countries where pornography is forbidden, another risk when you suddenly have to explain how you make your money. and the previous cases of billing companies running away with peoples monies were also not very encouraging, just look for IBill, MyVirtualCard, Globosale, Globill and a few others |
3 pages and no links to the article yet?
gfy is going to shit http://www.details.com/culture-trend...ick-middle-men |
fool me ones shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
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next time I need some programming done I should just hook up with the local crackheads first to see if some of them can help me out ?? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh |
coming back from Europe today, quite a few people around me, were watching Middle Men:2 cents:
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If your loss is such that you can't bear it, you really need to ask yourself how far you are willing to go to recover your money? Seriously, How far are you willing to go? I know the answer for myself. |
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I walked in to Barnes and Noble last week and bought a small stack & mailed them out to some of our webmasters overseas that were wanting one. I've got 2 left if there's anyone else out there like me that still likes the feel of glossy pages and can't get their hands on one locally. I'm not totally surprised no charges have been filed. I think epass was smart, they knew who they were dealing with. I think they returned the funds to all the players they perceived could create major legal problems for them, and the ones who couldn't or wouldn't got hung out to dry. All the big dogs with corporate attorneys got their money back while the independent webmasters, especially those overseas, where pretty much told to go shit in the ocean. I applaud you for writing the piece, mainly because I feel due of the industries epassporte mainly dealt with the general public perception is this is a victimless crime. Even though the majority of the people who lost money weren't in the content production end, anyone who does business in the adult marketplace is quickly labeled a "pornographer" and anyone who's ever read the comments on any article addressing piracy, tube sites and content theft knows the world doesn't shed any tears when we lose $$. Stealing is stealing, it doesn't matter who you steal it from. Contrary to what Mallick would like the world to think the majority of us aren't russian mobsters, drug addicts, or purveyors of child pornography. We're quite the opposite. |
Finally I was able to pick up a copy of Details today and read the article about Mallick.
Most of the story was already played out/told in threads on GFY, so not much new ground was covered imho. However, I do consider it a well-written Cliff's Notes. Mallick's sketchy past is sufficiently documented, and he is demonized throughout, and exposed as the delusional narcissist/egotist that he is. The only new detail which I gleaned is that Mallick has already put ePassporte behind him, and could care less about anyone else's woes - I know that is probably what many people thought, but the article makes it clear, Mallick does not think he did anything wrong, and he is losing no sleep over the millions that were lost by people that trusted him (let alone the guy who committed suicide, who I don't recall reading about in the article). No, Chris Mallick is too busy trying to be a movie mogul, even though he just released one of the biggest box-office bombs ever. Mallick is so vain that he probably is proud of the article. What a douche... http://christophermallickscam.com/wp...lick-fraud.jpg ADG |
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placing blame everywhere except on himself, trail of destruction, delusions of grandeur, exaggeration, fake white teeth.... this dude is dripping with sleaze hahaha! nice article :thumbsup |
First chance I get to read the article and I feel sick from Chris' comments I lost the last little bit of respect I had for him, which wasn't much.
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You and Shaliza are good at manipulating people, I trusted both of you which were my mistake. You made one statement you had me post when this first happened after that I begged you to make a statement or provide some information to account holders, then you made the second one I posted here and I still begged you for to release more information and you were quiet and hid behind everyone else, not once did you come out and says what happened and I were fed one story after another to keep things going. You cut off ACH and withdrawals to CCs without even notifying customers or your staff. I still think about the last contact I had with you two about a week after I were fired asking about my severance pay when everyone beside myself and one other person had been paid, I had to use harsh words because I wanted what you had promised me and it were that I would not be as patient as everyone else waiting for their money and were told that I could not do that to Chris. I worked my ass off when this happened, Chris had time to finish his Cabo vacation and despite the entire staff in LA offering to come in on the weekend and work over time, for free even, if needed they were turned down saying it were not necessary, I guess I should have smelled the rat there. If you want people to feel sorry for you and stop hating on you come clean and say where the money is, cause right now all signs point in one direction and you have not been able to do or say anything to make people think its not in your pockets or were in your pockets. Everything stops with you, you were the owner of ePassporte and had access to the funds. What happened to the bank account were the Wallet funds were stored? We were told the Wallet were started to protect peoples money from ATM scams is that the real reason or a convenient story? |
OK .... I just read the article in it's entirety, and here is the one thing that I took away from it that I really had not looked at from this angle prior ...
Mallick self admittedly states he was trying to broker a deal to sell Epass to SKNAB ... Maybe some of the powers that be at SKNAB found out somehow that Chris had his hand in the cookie jar ... and that what he was in fact trying to sell them, was Middle Men's debt ????? This is where the story he tells gets interesting ... if you add the piece to the puzzle I have just speculated, then it makes a lot of sense why SKNAB would want to fuck him, and getting VISA involved with it, ensured that they came out of this smelling like roses!! Will we ever know 100% the real deal of what happened?? I doubt it ... But this does add new elements to the story ... But the bottom line is this -- regardless of the timeline -- it still 150% appears that the implosion of Epassporte was directly related to Mallick spending a shitload of money that was not his to spend ... I am seriously looking into going public with everything I know about this, and filing criminal charges ... Since I am not American, this is not an easy task. Sure I am just a small fish in the race, with less than 2 grand being owed, but the fact that webmasters can stand around the water cooler bitching to the high heavens about being robbed, but at the end of the day do SWEET FUCK ALL about it, really does not leave a pleasant taste in my mouth ... |
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A Little Late to the party, but Glad you showed up. :) |
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Has anybody ever made YOU the scapegoat for millions of dollars? If MO was in on this little Ponzi scheme, he would be in Cabo tag-teaming Shaliza (or maybe Giovanni?!?) right now, not posting a review of Chris Mallick's extra little publicity for Middle Men ... I lent Michael money on several occasions in the past, that he always paid back on or before the date he told me it would be paid back ... and I would do it again without thinking about it. Michael is as much a victim here as we all are, perhaps even more, as neither you nor I were left to explain to 100,000 cardholders where their money was .. |
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so basically the whole story about epassporte not having access to the wallet funds was a lie...not that its new to anyone..as Visa and SKNAB both confirmed that in SEPTEMBER 2010 ! and its true...all the "bros" who had the resources to actually do something about this were all paid off.....wich is why ..like epassporte..they have slithered away or kept mum on this situation. Also..i remeber stating the fact..no offense but... Michael O was just a voice piece and was sayung what he was told..only knew what he was told and..in the end woul dbe left hung out to dry holdng an empty bag. Thanks Micahel for shedding somemore light on the situation..but i really feel the need to add..its seems to me..that..if you got your severence pay and you were showed a little more respect durng the last days....you would have never stated any of this.:2 cents: |
Reading the article I suspect the loss of Visa was a major blow. Then he decided to pull up the drawbridge on whatever was left. Without Visa pulling out I think Epass would still be going. It was as the article said, a cash cow.
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I got my severance pay after asking for it. Back in late September and the start of October I thought one thing but what I have been hearing from others and thinking about what happened I have drawn a different conclusion. Its simple, where are the Wallet funds. 1) They are being held somewhere by either Visa (unlikely) or the bank. If thats the case why not come out and say it, he never said anything about the funds. 2) Funds were in a bank somewhere in an account controlled by Mallick by his own admission. Why have it not been released to people? I can only draw one conclusion as to where the money is. This hurt a lot of people both personally and business wise and I know more than anyone else how many people counted on their ePassporte funds on a day to day basis. How can I support Chris in any way, fact is people not getting their money is his responsibility no matter how you spin it. Anyone from ePassporte still associating themselves with him is just as responsible for what happened in my eyes. |
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I hope some lawyers for people whom lost money are reading this. MO sounds like a good Plaintiff witness to me... :thumbsup ADG |
We want Chris in jail!
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maybe the money hasnt been released because its no longer there to be released...cant give out what you dont have....except for maybe the little "nest egg" you tucked away in case of emergency ;) really i think we would all like to know 2 things : why visa terminated thier relationship with epassporte...(not sure you would be able to answer that though but maybe you can offer your own personal opinon why??) where the money is now ..if there is any? (know you cant answer that because you already asked the same questions yourself) Bascially this whole ordeal is over..unless somone actually retains an attorney and takes mallick to court.:2 cents: who knows maybe thats all it takes to get your money back..have a lawyer notify his lawyer a client intends to sue..and maybe they make an out of court offer to pay you what your owed as long as you sign a non-disclouse..wich is why all the "bros" are silent.:Oh crap CJM ...since you are reading this ..here is an idea for your next movie script: Middle Men 2 successfull internet guys tries to make it big in hollywood..gets strung along by movie exces about how his life story script is amazing..but they cant afford to use thier money to make movie..so internet guys uses his "monies in motion"to fund movie....bunch of movie industry people,actors,etc make alot of money..but..movie bombs...internet guys loses all his "monies in motion" and his cash cow for 2nd time.... Movie ending: Panning out from kitchen table where you are eating lobster sandwich watching CNBC news segement on how online poker is huge right now..then more panning out to show mansion and nice cars and ..then audio clip of you on phone asking mystery man "hey so what do you think about setting up an online casino?" P.S send me a consulting fee before you use the idea or ill see you in court ;) |
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My only objection to your story was my original one, it seemed to me that Mallick was allowed to control the slant, but as you say, without verifiable on record sources to dispute his version, what can you really do... I'd bet that most of the people who aren't willing to come forward with their names and say they lost money are still, somewhere, somehow, hoping that their money will magically appear and they'll be paid -- if they don't speak up about it. Too many times in this industry it's gone this way -- the big fish who will sue get their money first, then the ones that make enough threats get theirs next -- usually with NDAs to keep the lid on who got what. And who is to say that if anyone puts something forth that can't be supported 100% that they won't find themselves on the receiving end of a lawsuit? Intimidation is always a factor when people start naming names and recalling conversations, etc. mostly because people can't afford to defend themselves in a big, ugly lawsuit and can't you just see that coming if even one minor fact wasn't perfect in the recounting? |
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article didn't do it for me. never got across the fact that most peoples money in the epass wallet disappeared. how much it disrupted things an adult. almost made mallick a sympathetic character.
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What a bunch of bullshit trying to say the majority of the people still waiting for their money are fraudsters.. and if Mallick were really so down on himself why doesn't he do the world a favor and put a gun in his mouth.
If he really cared so much about what people are saying I think he would at least pay the people with the epassporte/mallick scam sites. Is he really that broke? What's the hold up? |
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Makes you wonder what he is thinking calling people fraud sters, while as Michael O said, there is only one conclusion to be drawn about where everyone's money really is or was. What is the answer to this question about Oxymoron Entertainment? |
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