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ShellyCrash 02-18-2011 11:13 PM

I thought it was a good article. I wish there had been mention of the suicide, I don't know if readers really grasp the toll the epassporte crash had on many. For most of us these weren't poker winnings or ill gotten gains. These were paychecks, for some savings accounts.

I really hope someone, somewhere, somehow takes Mallick to task- but I think they made sure to pay in full any people or corporations they perceived to be a real legal threat. Most of the people damaged by collapse don't have the resources to fund an international legal battle that will most likely drag on for years.

Roald 02-19-2011 01:16 AM

What I got out of this article is that mallick just feels very sorry for himself. What a joker.

NinjaSteve 02-20-2011 08:39 AM

Anybody have the scans or anything?

MaDalton 02-20-2011 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17925192)
Ok got the scans, let me grab a new beer first!

you have my email :winkwink:

Roald 02-20-2011 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17928236)
you have my email :winkwink:

Not sure, drop me a line now

Mutt 02-20-2011 09:16 AM

Roald can you please send me the scans? you have me in your email - search for 'Mutt'

thanks

DEA - banned for life 02-20-2011 09:45 AM

ironic this article had been out for a week now and so far all thats hit the board was a few quotes from it ?????

i went to the local barnes and noble on thursday..and..found out they are out of buissness lol...went to books a milion...but they had last months issue out....

Roald 02-20-2011 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17928252)
Roald can you please send me the scans? you have me in your email - search for 'Mutt'

thanks

will be tomorrow unless you drop me an email now ;)

Mutt 02-20-2011 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17928297)
will be tomorrow unless you drop me an email now ;)

email sent - thanks!

Paul Markham 02-20-2011 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 17923729)
I was contacted by Brazzers to do some work for them years ago when they were still wet behind the years ...

You have NO IDEA who these guys are .... they have the resources to make problems "go away" ....

I know someone like that in Czech.

His resources are loaded. And not with money. :winkwink:

Mutt 02-20-2011 11:14 AM

read the article - ho hum, nothing new or very interesting.

i've never thought Mallick walked off with people's money, Epass wasn't in the same business as Epoch, the entire business hinged on one bank on a small island and its relationship with VISA. the timing of the release of the bomb of a vanity movie and the plug being pulled on Epass, plus his lifestyle and hiding behind his underlings while the business collapsed makes it ripe for conspiracy theories.

He's a narcissist for sure, most of his business failings and litigation suggest he's incompetent more than a crook. I don't think he cares about anybody who lost money, a narcissist.

He could have sold Epass I'm sure for a nice bundle before this happened.

Maybe I'm wrong, he admits in the article that he did have access to the bank account where everybody's money was/is. You'd think though by now there'd be charges against him, criminal charges - and there aren't.

B.Barnato 02-20-2011 02:23 PM

funny how board of webmasters who cry for content theft in their panties send each other scan or ask for scan of public available for purchase magazine.

oversea i understand, but rest:321GFY

not available at local store is NOT excuse! you live in western world order copy online or drive few miles out of way to purchase.

your customers also face barriers for purchase: example no credit card

such hypocrit holes here

TylerBang 02-20-2011 02:49 PM

Read it 2 days ago.

The author admits here that he feels like alot was left out, I agree.

Where are the interviews with Michael O, Shaliza S., Mark Wheeler..etc etc.?

Chris is giving an interview saying that he is hurt by all the negative things said about him, all while tearing into a Lobster Sandwich?
Lobster makes the pain bearable.
:upsidedow

Classic.



http://www.delish.com/cm/delish/imag...l-92384649.jpg

Deputy Chief Command 02-20-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 17928790)
funny how board of webmasters who cry for content theft in their panties send each other scan or ask for scan of public available for purchase magazine.

oversea i understand, but rest:321GFY

not available at local store is NOT excuse! you live in western world order copy online or drive few miles out of way to purchase.

your customers also face barriers for purchase: example no credit card

such hypocrit holes here

if I would want to buy it I would need to first take a cab to ferry terminal .. then take ferry to Hong Kong Airport , , .. then take random flight to the US ... so yeah ... :1orglaugh

Kimmykim 02-22-2011 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17926010)
What I got out of this article is that mallick just feels very sorry for himself. What a joker.

I totally agree. I think the slant and scope of the article were very soft on the situation, especially given that there has been no (as of the writing) audit or inspection by an outside party according to Chris' own admission, so who really knows what is true and what is not?

Did the reporter set out to tell a story about Chris or did he let Chris decide how the story would be told?

I'm not accusing Chris of stealing a dime, not alleging it or even suggesting it -- I just think the article was very poorly focused given the circumstances -- the focus in the article on how good various people thought the movie was definitely didn't find support with the movie going public or else it would have done a bit better, to say the least.

Should be interesting to see how it does on foreign sales and DVD, ODV type sales, but perhaps comparing it to Pulp Fiction could be a bit of a stretch under any circumstances.

There were some other parts of the article that were either humorous or downright silly depending on how you read the sentences, but that's just my personal opinion.

Shame it wasn't more in the Christopher Hitchens or Dominick Dunne style of work.

mrsanj.b 02-22-2011 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 17920785)
I wasn't a doubter, but I am very grateful to see the epass article publish. A lot of times a story gets turned in but doesn't see print.

On behalf of everyone, thank you so much for shining some light on this subject :thumbsup

Thanks Shelly. That clip was awesome.

mrsanj.b 02-22-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim (Post 17932432)
I totally agree. I think the slant and scope of the article were very soft on the situation, especially given that there has been no (as of the writing) audit or inspection by an outside party according to Chris' own admission, so who really knows what is true and what is not?

Did the reporter set out to tell a story about Chris or did he let Chris decide how the story would be told?

I hear what you're saying and, in part, I agree. The fundamental problem I faced in writing this piece is that the allegations were only ever made online - either on GFY or on one of those chrismallickscam-type sites. And in every case, no one individual would stand up, go on the record and make an allegation against Mallick. They just did it online in anonymous forums.

To date - for all the hue and cry on these message boards - there hasn't been a single criminal filing against Mallick to my knowledge, and therefore there is no official allegation of wrongdoing - only the allegations made here. That's a problem, but it's also one of the most interesting things about this story.

My question to the posters here is this: Why won't you go on the record? What are you afraid of? You realize you're just playing into the hands of the man that you claim robbed you...?

The article was as soft as its sources. When it came down to it, everyone backed away. I don't quite get it - if you feel you've been robbed, why wouldn't you report it?

Christopher Hitchens and Dominic Dunne are great. I hope the next piece I do is half-way worthy.

Thanks for your feedback!

Holly Lez! 02-22-2011 05:46 PM

Somehow I think Mallick will see this as an ego boost! Which I hate.. He can do all the talking to a reporter but not to the people he ripped off..

mrsanj.b 02-22-2011 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TylerBang (Post 17928897)
Read it 2 days ago.

The author admits here that he feels like alot was left out, I agree.

Where are the interviews with Michael O, Shaliza S., Mark Wheeler..etc etc.?

You think I didn't try? They all refused or failed to return calls.

Those weren't the interviews I really wanted. What I wanted was a webmaster who'd been ripped off who would have the balls to go on the record and say so, rather than hide behind a false name.

This would be a different story if that had happened.

Holly Lez! 02-22-2011 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsanj.b (Post 17934373)
I hear what you're saying and, in part, I agree. The fundamental problem I faced in writing this piece is that the allegations were only ever made online - either on GFY or on one of those chrismallickscam-type sites. And in every case, no one individual would stand up, go on the record and make an allegation against Mallick. They just did it online in anonymous forums.

To date - for all the hue and cry on these message boards - there hasn't been a single criminal filing against Mallick to my knowledge, and therefore there is no official allegation of wrongdoing - only the allegations made here. That's a problem, but it's also one of the most interesting things about this story.

My question to the posters here is this: Why won't you go on the record? What are you afraid of? You realize you're just playing into the hands of the man that you claim robbed you...?

The article was as soft as its sources. When it came down to it, everyone backed away. I don't quite get it - if you feel you've been robbed, why wouldn't you report it?

Christopher Hitchens and Dominic Dunne are great. I hope the next piece I do is half-way worthy.

Thanks for your feedback!

I also found your article soft but I am surprised with all the people talking shit on the boards not one came forward for you!

mrsanj.b 02-22-2011 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17928475)
Maybe I'm wrong, he admits in the article that he did have access to the bank account where everybody's money was/is. You'd think though by now there'd be charges against him, criminal charges - and there aren't.

Exactly. Given the extent of the online allegations, you'd think someone would have filed charges. We live in an age where crooks walk and the little people do nothing. If that happened here, it's as sad as what happened with the financial collapse.

If you're a victim of the Epassporte collapse and you believe that you've been defrauded, then file charges. It's the right thing to do and you will not be alone.

alias 02-22-2011 05:57 PM

You'd think someone would put a bullet in his head, webmasters are pussies. I didn't use epassporte.

Deputy Chief Command 02-22-2011 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 17934412)
You'd think someone would put a bullet in his head, webmasters are not crazed maniacs. Unlike some other members of society I didn't use epassporte.


true dat! webmaster are not insane maniacs who start killing people over some money .. some of us have families and dont want to give it all up over some money that was lost in motion :2 cents::thumbsup

Jdoughs 02-22-2011 06:03 PM

I don't remember seeing a post or mention of you needing people to come forward.

I think if people knew you couldn't get one single confirmed complaint, that many would have offered to.

This would have been exactly where I started to look for a few if I needed (as you did sort of with your original post, you got lots of info, but apparently no confirmed sources).

There is several known, reputable businessmen who lost money in the whole thing.

mrsanj.b 02-22-2011 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17934426)
There is several known, reputable businessmen who lost money in the whole thing.

If you know who they are, please let me know.

At this stage, I think that what's important is for people who know what happened to step forward and speak up. Get in touch with me and go on the record. It's as simple as that.

It's an interesting phenomenon, message boards and anonymity. A lot of big talk, but not so much walk!

alias 02-22-2011 06:13 PM

Webmasters are pretty chill, it sucks to see people get victimized though. It is almost guaranteed that these rip-offs are pre-calculated as low risk because of the perceived or real state of apathy or retribution from "webmasters".

People in foreign countries are often seen as an easy mark because it is very expensive, time consuming and exposing to try to reclaim lost money in due legal process.

If you examine the GFY threads and as stated above, the people who were a legal risk got paid off. Everyone else, well they can go fuck themselves.

Welcome to adult.

Deputy Chief Command 02-22-2011 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17934426)
I don't remember seeing a post or mention of you needing people to come forward.

I think if people knew you couldn't get one single confirmed complaint, that many would have offered to.

This would have been exactly where I started to look for a few if I needed (as you did sort of with your original post, you got lots of info, but apparently no confirmed sources).

There is several known, reputable businessmen who lost money in the whole thing.

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=997124

Sly 02-22-2011 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsanj.b (Post 17934406)
Exactly. Given the extent of the online allegations, you'd think someone would have filed charges. We live in an age where crooks walk and the little people do nothing. If that happened here, it's as sad as what happened with the financial collapse.

If you're a victim of the Epassporte collapse and you believe that you've been defrauded, then file charges. It's the right thing to do and you will not be alone.

Press charges where exactly? What agency would take on this? I have no idea, I'm genuinely asking.

Also, when you were soliciting interviews and such, I think that a lot of people still had hope and felt that if they came out they had absolutely no shot of getting any of their money. A lot of others were just lazy.

MaDalton 02-22-2011 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsanj.b (Post 17934373)
I hear what you're saying and, in part, I agree. The fundamental problem I faced in writing this piece is that the allegations were only ever made online - either on GFY or on one of those chrismallickscam-type sites. And in every case, no one individual would stand up, go on the record and make an allegation against Mallick. They just did it online in anonymous forums.

To date - for all the hue and cry on these message boards - there hasn't been a single criminal filing against Mallick to my knowledge, and therefore there is no official allegation of wrongdoing - only the allegations made here. That's a problem, but it's also one of the most interesting things about this story.

My question to the posters here is this: Why won't you go on the record? What are you afraid of? You realize you're just playing into the hands of the man that you claim robbed you...?

The article was as soft as its sources. When it came down to it, everyone backed away. I don't quite get it - if you feel you've been robbed, why wouldn't you report it?

Christopher Hitchens and Dominic Dunne are great. I hope the next piece I do is half-way worthy.

Thanks for your feedback!


face it like it is: many people used Epassporte to avoid taxes and filing a criminal case would raise the question how much money was hidden there over the years. then you suddenly don't have just the costs for the lawyer, the slim chance of success but also a good chance of having the IRS on your ass.

Also many users were from countries where pornography is forbidden, another risk when you suddenly have to explain how you make your money.

and the previous cases of billing companies running away with peoples monies were also not very encouraging, just look for IBill, MyVirtualCard, Globosale, Globill and a few others

Oracle Porn 02-22-2011 06:53 PM

3 pages and no links to the article yet?
gfy is going to shit











































http://www.details.com/culture-trend...ick-middle-men

Oracle Porn 02-22-2011 07:19 PM

fool me ones shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Deputy Chief Command 02-22-2011 08:00 PM

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he teams up with two degenerate drug addicts who have just created an algorithm to enable credit-card transactions..
what ?? how do people come up with this ? what kind of degenerate drug addict is creating algorithms to enable credit card transactions ??? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

next time I need some programming done I should just hook up with the local crackheads first to see if some of them can help me out ?? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

JFK 02-22-2011 08:05 PM

coming back from Europe today, quite a few people around me, were watching Middle Men:2 cents:

TylerBang 02-22-2011 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsanj.b (Post 17934406)
Exactly. Given the extent of the online allegations, you'd think someone would have filed charges. We live in an age where crooks walk and the little people do nothing. If that happened here, it's as sad as what happened with the financial collapse.

If you're a victim of the Epassporte collapse and you believe that you've been defrauded, then file charges. It's the right thing to do and you will not be alone.

There are many webmasters involved in a lawsuit this month in the USA via a Curacao based atty. Many others used the online fraud reporting feature of the FBI. I really believe these will eventually end up in more serious charges in the future. A single webmaster slinging accusations at CM in an article will go nowhere.
If your loss is such that you can't bear it, you really need to ask yourself how far you are willing to go to recover your money? Seriously, How far are you willing to go? I know the answer for myself.

ShellyCrash 02-22-2011 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsanj.b (Post 17934354)
Thanks Shelly. That clip was awesome.

Anytime.

I walked in to Barnes and Noble last week and bought a small stack & mailed them out to some of our webmasters overseas that were wanting one. I've got 2 left if there's anyone else out there like me that still likes the feel of glossy pages and can't get their hands on one locally.

I'm not totally surprised no charges have been filed. I think epass was smart, they knew who they were dealing with. I think they returned the funds to all the players they perceived could create major legal problems for them, and the ones who couldn't or wouldn't got hung out to dry. All the big dogs with corporate attorneys got their money back while the independent webmasters, especially those overseas, where pretty much told to go shit in the ocean.

I applaud you for writing the piece, mainly because I feel due of the industries epassporte mainly dealt with the general public perception is this is a victimless crime. Even though the majority of the people who lost money weren't in the content production end, anyone who does business in the adult marketplace is quickly labeled a "pornographer" and anyone who's ever read the comments on any article addressing piracy, tube sites and content theft knows the world doesn't shed any tears when we lose $$.

Stealing is stealing, it doesn't matter who you steal it from. Contrary to what Mallick would like the world to think the majority of us aren't russian mobsters, drug addicts, or purveyors of child pornography. We're quite the opposite.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 02-23-2011 12:13 AM

Finally I was able to pick up a copy of Details today and read the article about Mallick.

Most of the story was already played out/told in threads on GFY, so not much new ground was covered imho. However, I do consider it a well-written Cliff's Notes. Mallick's sketchy past is sufficiently documented, and he is demonized throughout, and exposed as the delusional narcissist/egotist that he is.

The only new detail which I gleaned is that Mallick has already put ePassporte behind him, and could care less about anyone else's woes - I know that is probably what many people thought, but the article makes it clear, Mallick does not think he did anything wrong, and he is losing no sleep over the millions that were lost by people that trusted him (let alone the guy who committed suicide, who I don't recall reading about in the article).

No, Chris Mallick is too busy trying to be a movie mogul, even though he just released one of the biggest box-office bombs ever.

Mallick is so vain that he probably is proud of the article. What a douche...

http://christophermallickscam.com/wp...lick-fraud.jpg

ADG

FlexxAeon 02-23-2011 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17934519)

man FUUUUCK that! :1orglaugh

placing blame everywhere except on himself, trail of destruction, delusions of grandeur, exaggeration, fake white teeth.... this dude is dripping with sleaze hahaha!

nice article :thumbsup

Michael O 02-23-2011 01:21 AM

First chance I get to read the article and I feel sick from Chris' comments I lost the last little bit of respect I had for him, which wasn't much.

Quote:

"You know when things are so bad they make you laugh?" he says. "I was like, 'You're fucking with me! Okay, is there a tsunami now? What's next?' "
And still he stayed in Cabo finishing his holiday.


Quote:

(Mallick suggests the number is more like $5 million.)
:disgust


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"I hate the things that people say about me," he says. "It hurts my feelings, but nobody gives a shit about my feelings but me. I'm not going to cry about that. . . . I was accused of running off to Mexico with money. Really? What happened then? Because I'm here now."
Well what happened to the money? You had access to the Wallet funds which were not your funds but the funds of ePassporte's account holders and now the funds are not there I can only draw one conclusion.


Quote:

He claims that almost all account holders have gotten their money back, and that "95 percent of the people clamoring for their money are frauds."
Well, it were the big programs getting their money in the first couple of days and your friends, Christy's and Shaliza's friends and friends of anyone else in upper management, if you were not upper management you had no pull on who could got their money. Yes wires went out but as I later found out very very slowly and it were only those you (Christy) wanted to send to.


Quote:

"Everyone that is owed money?to the extent that I have anything to do with it?will be paid."
Yeah that what I always thought about you and why I didn't run screaming away when this started. Fact is I can not recall a company or person posting they got their money since October.



You and Shaliza are good at manipulating people, I trusted both of you which were my mistake. You made one statement you had me post when this first happened after that I begged you to make a statement or provide some information to account holders, then you made the second one I posted here and I still begged you for to release more information and you were quiet and hid behind everyone else, not once did you come out and says what happened and I were fed one story after another to keep things going.
You cut off ACH and withdrawals to CCs without even notifying customers or your staff.
I still think about the last contact I had with you two about a week after I were fired asking about my severance pay when everyone beside myself and one other person had been paid, I had to use harsh words because I wanted what you had promised me and it were that I would not be as patient as everyone else waiting for their money and were told that I could not do that to Chris.

I worked my ass off when this happened, Chris had time to finish his Cabo vacation and despite the entire staff in LA offering to come in on the weekend and work over time, for free even, if needed they were turned down saying it were not necessary, I guess I should have smelled the rat there.

If you want people to feel sorry for you and stop hating on you come clean and say where the money is, cause right now all signs point in one direction and you have not been able to do or say anything to make people think its not in your pockets or were in your pockets. Everything stops with you, you were the owner of ePassporte and had access to the funds. What happened to the bank account were the Wallet funds were stored? We were told the Wallet were started to protect peoples money from ATM scams is that the real reason or a convenient story?

facialfreak 02-23-2011 01:36 AM

OK .... I just read the article in it's entirety, and here is the one thing that I took away from it that I really had not looked at from this angle prior ...

Mallick self admittedly states he was trying to broker a deal to sell Epass to SKNAB ...

Maybe some of the powers that be at SKNAB found out somehow that Chris had his hand in the cookie jar ... and that what he was in fact trying to sell them, was Middle Men's debt ?????

This is where the story he tells gets interesting ... if you add the piece to the puzzle I have just speculated, then it makes a lot of sense why SKNAB would want to fuck him, and getting VISA involved with it, ensured that they came out of this smelling like roses!!

Will we ever know 100% the real deal of what happened?? I doubt it ...

But this does add new elements to the story ...

But the bottom line is this -- regardless of the timeline -- it still 150% appears that the implosion of Epassporte was directly related to Mallick spending a shitload of money that was not his to spend ...

I am seriously looking into going public with everything I know about this, and filing criminal charges ... Since I am not American, this is not an easy task.

Sure I am just a small fish in the race, with less than 2 grand being owed, but the fact that webmasters can stand around the water cooler bitching to the high heavens about being robbed, but at the end of the day do SWEET FUCK ALL about it, really does not leave a pleasant taste in my mouth ...

TylerBang 02-23-2011 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17934999)
First chance I get to read the article and I feel sick from Chris' comments I lost the last little bit of respect I had for him, which wasn't much.


you were the owner of ePassporte and had access to the funds. What happened to the bank account were the Wallet funds were stored? We were told the Wallet were started to protect peoples money from ATM scams is that the real reason or a convenient story?



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