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baddog 02-17-2011 12:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 17922223)
Now I just LOL'd

Go BadDog, Be ALL you Can Be :thumbsup
Never heard of the Marshall Plan or US Foreign Aid?

Jman 02-17-2011 12:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17922317)
Never heard of the Marshall Plan or US Foreign Aid?
Look at your "We're All Mighty" Statement you made. Kind of sounds like if you'd go to someone's place uninvited, break some shit and then brag about paying for fixing it... That's what I am LOL'd about :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

baddog 02-17-2011 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 17922388)
Look at your "We're All Mighty" Statement you made. Kind of sounds like if you'd go to someone's place uninvited, break some shit and then brag about paying for fixing it... That's what I am LOL'd about :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Your English is worse than I ever thought. Where did I EVER imply "We're All Mighty?"

dumbass

Jman 02-17-2011 12:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17922424)
Your English is worse than I ever thought. Where did I EVER imply "We're All Mighty?"

dumbass
Is the only card you got on me my english, vieux cave???

read your statement : Originally Posted by baddog View Post
We have been repairing shit for years. Why would we stop now? It will happen.

Oh yeah starts with We have been repairing shit....

Maybe it's time for a new prescription old dog :upsidedow

baddog 02-17-2011 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 17922437)
Is the only card you got on my is my english, vieux cave???

read your statement : Originally Posted by baddog View Post
We have been repairing shit for years. Why would we stop now? It will happen.

Oh yeah starts with We have been repairing shit....

Maybe it's time for a new prescription old dog :upsidedow
Oh, so it is not your English comprehension, you just need a picture drawn? Like I said, dumbass.

PornoMonster 02-17-2011 12:52 PM
HOLLY SHIT
I FIGURED IT OUT
I CAN FIX THE ECONOMY

Have a country invade us, destroy our shit, and then charge them to rebuild our economy and infrastructure.

PornoMonster 02-17-2011 12:56 PM
OH I FORGOT
Kill off a few hundred thousand to millions of people.
More jobs will open up this way.
Social security will have a few less people to p ay for.
Obama Care will cover a lot less.

Wow this is a GREAT Idea.

baddog 02-17-2011 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 17922461)
HOLLY SHIT
I FIGURED IT OUT
I CAN FIX THE ECONOMY

Have a country invade us, destroy our shit, and then charge them to rebuild our economy and infrastructure.
It's been done.

Jman 02-17-2011 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17922457)
Oh, so it is not your English comprehension, you just need a picture drawn? Like I said, dumbass.
You're no fun anymore... go take some pictures jfk junior :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 02-17-2011 02:49 PM
Fine, invoice the Iraqi Government (that would not exist now BTW) $400 billion for "Dictator Removal (Saddam)."

Yeah, we wasted time, lives and treasure for their asses, no doubt.

Kiopa_Matt 02-17-2011 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 17922786)
Yeah, we wasted time, lives and treasure for their asses, no doubt.
You still seem to be under the delusional notion that the US did the Iraqis a favor by invading their country. That's about as ridiculous as saying China would do the US a favor by invading, and ridding you guys of your ridiculous 2 (well, one) party system who can't get anything meaningful done.

Notice places like Tunisia and Egypt? That's how democracy comes to be. Not by cruise missiles, "shock & awe" campaigns, and 100,000 soldiers.

Vendzilla 02-17-2011 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt (Post 17922834)
You still seem to be under the delusional notion that the US did the Iraqis a favor by invading their country. That's about as ridiculous as saying China would do the US a favor by invading, and ridding you guys of your ridiculous 2 (well, one) party system who can't get anything meaningful done.

Notice places like Tunisia and Egypt? That's how democracy comes to be. Not by cruise missiles, "shock & awe" campaigns, and 100,000 soldiers.
How else are we going to develop meaningful video games?

Vick! 02-17-2011 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rangermoore (Post 17921517)
Fuck them & their country..
Am sure they feel same about you and your country.

Barry-xlovecam 02-17-2011 03:52 PM
Quite to the contrary, in my opinion we should have contained Saddam's Iraqi government within the terms of the UN Ceasefire. Continued the no fly zone enforcement and the embargo.

As long as Saddam stayed in power we should have contained that government regardless of human cost.

Instead, the US conducted an illegal invasion based on false evidence. Iraq had little if nothing to do with the events of 9/11 and our (the US) incursion resulted in large amounts of death on all sides ? apparently for little. More Americans died in Iraq than in the 9/11 attacks. What possible explanation is there to offer to the families of all that died on all sides? There is none but rhetoric and excuses.

Dead is dead.

It was not the place of a US led invasion to overturn a sovereign government ? even one of a harsh dictator. If the Iraqi people lacked the necessary fortitude to overturn their taskmaster ? they deserved what they got...

2012 02-17-2011 03:53 PM
they hate us for our freedom

blackmonsters 02-17-2011 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 17922909)
they hate us for our freedom
They are jealous of our full body scanners too.
Those Iraqi chicks are probably dying for a TSA pat down.

MaDalton 02-17-2011 05:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17922247)
Ok deal, but they got to pay us back for the couple trillion we spent liberating their asses.
not so sure all of them wanted to be liberated...

and also not so sure if they feel much better now

maybe you should forward that invoice to Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld - they made surely enough off of it to take care of it

just a punk 02-17-2011 05:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rangermoore (Post 17921517)
Baghdad wants U.S. to pay $1 billion for damage to city
Sounds very reasonable :2 cents:

JFK 02-17-2011 06:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17921586)
Colin Powel told George Bush its like Pottery Barn , you break it you bought it. They didnt ask us to come in.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

mineistaken 02-17-2011 08:18 PM
Who cares, they will just print that 1 billion dollars as they do so nonstop anyway

ColBigBalls 02-17-2011 10:31 PM
Its cool once they find the WMD's it will all get smoothed out... Right?

BFT3K 02-17-2011 10:40 PM
Make these retards pay for it...

http://www.vanityfair.com/images/pol...ry-0902-01.jpg

Zyber 02-18-2011 03:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 17922786)
Yeah, we wasted time, lives and treasure for their asses, no doubt.
You mean for their oil, right? :upsidedow
Oil supplied to the US for prices below market value? There is a reason why gas is so damn cheap in the US. It was bought in bulk at gunpoint.

Another aim of the war has been to secure valuable contracts for the reconstruction of the damaged infrastructure. Coincidence that these contracts went to American companies and their allies?

If this had anything to do with "liberating the Iraqi people", the Iraqis would not be seen as the enemy, but as fellow humans. Of course the Iraqis are "enemies" when they have the rights to the natural resources that our Western bubble economies depend on.

Big business in bloodshed.

This post was not pointed directly at you Barry. :winkwink:

Emil 02-18-2011 03:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 17922909)
they hate us for our freedom
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

ajrocks 02-18-2011 07:07 AM
Why shouldn't the US pay for the damage? Did they ask the US to come blow them in to the dark ages? The US decided they needed to go in there for weapons of mass destruction that were sold to them by the US. Pay up bitches!

Barry-xlovecam 02-18-2011 07:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyber (Post 17923814)
You mean for their oil, right? ...There is a reason why gas is so damn cheap in the US. It was bought in bulk at gunpoint...
Just paid the gas bill;
$10.02 cu foot
$83.87 cu meter

That is cheap?

SmokeyTheBear 02-18-2011 08:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 17924047)
Just paid the gas bill;
$10.02 cu foot
$83.87 cu meter

That is cheap?
gasoline is cheaper than water.... that is pretty cheap.. water is just pulled from the ground and put in a bottle, done. Gas is extracted using costly chemicals and processed using other costly methods. pretty cheap when you think about it.

Barry-xlovecam 02-18-2011 08:30 AM
I pump my own water.

electric + amortization of the well. Cheaper than city water and no chlorine.
City Sewer is $92/Quarter that's a dollar a day just to flush ...

But that is not the real point. A great part of oil costs are the government taxes assessed ... Hence, the perception of "cheap" US energy. The taxs on fuel are lower in the US than in the EU ? this is the primary reason.

blackout 02-18-2011 01:49 PM
Good to see that people still like to talk out of their fucking asses.

"delusional notion that we did them a favor"... Maybe you should talk to the non-insurgent Iraqi's and find out what life was like when Saddam had his men come through their towns and beat the shit out of their families, or kill a few... Just to keep things "running smoothly".

"the 100s or 1000s of innocents that were murdered" - That's the biggest slap in the face if I ever heard one. Do you think about things you say, or do you just spew this diarrhea regularly?

I don't hate Iraqi's... I have met some real good guys over here. But after seeing how much money has gone out to the Iraqi's in Microgrants (I personally have paid out over $100,000 to Civilians to start businesses), and also going in to their infrastructure, I don't agree that they should be making any demands.

Why don't some of you Arm-Chair Generals get off your ass and do something about it if you think you can do this shit better. 90% of you are just retards with a google button.

RangerMoore, I say keep your check book in your pocket.

WarChild 02-18-2011 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyber (Post 17923814)
You mean for their oil, right? :upsidedow
Oil supplied to the US for prices below market value? There is a reason why gas is so damn cheap in the US. It was bought in bulk at gunpoint.
Oh that makes complete sense to me now! Thanks a ton for clearing that all up. Here I was thinking that the largest supplier of Oil to the US was Canada. Silly me.

_Richard_ 02-18-2011 01:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17924992)
Oh that makes complete sense to me now! Thanks a ton for clearing that all up. Here I was thinking that the largest supplier of Oil to the US was Canada. Silly me.
in light of current events, we'd appreciate if that wasn't as advertised :1orglaugh

:Oh crap

seeandsee 02-18-2011 01:57 PM
pay them 1 billion and take form oil 10 billions every yr

Rochard 02-18-2011 01:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 17922905)
Quite to the contrary, in my opinion we should have contained Saddam's Iraqi government within the terms of the UN Ceasefire. Continued the no fly zone enforcement and the embargo.

As long as Saddam stayed in power we should have contained that government regardless of human cost.

Instead, the US conducted an illegal invasion based on false evidence. Iraq had little if nothing to do with the events of 9/11 and our (the US) incursion resulted in large amounts of death on all sides ? apparently for little. More Americans died in Iraq than in the 9/11 attacks. What possible explanation is there to offer to the families of all that died on all sides? There is none but rhetoric and excuses.

Dead is dead.

It was not the place of a US led invasion to overturn a sovereign government ? even one of a harsh dictator. If the Iraqi people lacked the necessary fortitude to overturn their taskmaster ? they deserved what they got...
We "contained" Iraq for how long? We call Clinton a damn pussy for his failure to act but the truth is during the entire Clinton term we were bombing Iraq?

Illegal invasion? Let me spell it out to you. You fire on a US warplane, it's an act of war. Period. We patrolled a UN enforce no fly zone, agreed upon by Iraq, and they fired on us. Daily. No illegal invasion. They fired at us, daily, for years, we invaded. That's how wars fucking work.

huey 02-18-2011 02:36 PM
WMD tax = 1 billion

Zyber 02-18-2011 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17925004)
Illegal invasion? Let me spell it out to you. You fire on a US warplane, it's an act of war. Period. We patrolled a UN enforce no fly zone, agreed upon by Iraq, and they fired on us. Daily. No illegal invasion. They fired at us, daily, for years, we invaded. That's how wars fucking work.
Yeah, sure you were just attacked, and had to retaliate.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle387374.ece
From the Downing Street Memo: 23 July 2002
(8-9 months before the Iraq war begun)
Quote:
The Defence Secretary said that the US had already begun "spikes of activity" to put pressure on the regime. No decisions had been taken, but he thought the most likely timing in US minds for military action to begin was January, with the timeline beginning 30 days before the US Congressional elections.

The Foreign Secretary said he would discuss this with Colin Powell this week. It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbours, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran. We should work up a plan for an ultimatum to Saddam to allow back in the UN weapons inspectors. This would also help with the legal justification for the use of force.

The Attorney-General said that the desire for regime change was not a legal base for military action. There were three possible legal bases: self-defence, humanitarian intervention, or UNSC authorisation. The first and second could not be the base in this case. Relying on UNSCR 1205 of three years ago would be difficult. The situation might of course change.
Now, who attacked first?

Zyber 02-18-2011 03:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17924992)
Oh that makes complete sense to me now! Thanks a ton for clearing that all up. Here I was thinking that the largest supplier of Oil to the US was Canada. Silly me.
I never claimed that Iraq was the largest oil supplier. :upsidedow

Robbie 02-18-2011 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 17921605)
I can see their point.

BTW, $1 billion is pocket lint. It's actually kind of funny they asked for so little.
Yeah, that wouldn't buy the lobby of the Venetian here in Vegas.

Barry-xlovecam 02-18-2011 06:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17925004)
We "contained" Iraq for how long? We call Clinton a damn pussy for his failure to act but the truth is during the entire Clinton term we were bombing Iraq?

Illegal invasion? Let me spell it out to you. You fire on a US warplane, it's an act of war. Period. We patrolled a UN enforce no fly zone, agreed upon by Iraq, and they fired on us. Daily. No illegal invasion. They fired at us, daily, for years, we invaded. That's how wars fucking work.
It cost 12 billion a year to contain Saddam's Iraq. How much did it cost to invade and "conquer?"

BTW, if a foreign air force was flying over your head denying you use of your sovereign airspace ? just what the hell would you do?

"That's how wars fucking work" ? that's been true for 5,000 years and men are still making war and trying to justify it ... God told me to ... My country is stronger so we can fuck you guys up. ...

Actually, Saddam never did squat to me personally, I think he was a shitbag but I don't try to kill everyone I think a shitbag. Most are inconsequential shitbags ...

directfiesta 02-18-2011 10:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17925004)

Illegal invasion? Let me spell it out to you. You fire on a US warplane, it's an act of war. Period. We patrolled a UN enforce no fly zone, agreed upon by Iraq, and they fired on us. Daily. No illegal invasion. They fired at us, daily, for years, we invaded. That's how wars fucking work.
I proved you over and over again that the so-called no-fly zones were NOT UN sanctioned, but put in place by the US-UK-FR ( later which pulled out after seeing the result ) without any other reasons then creating a climate favorable to a rupture of the country.

Do I really need those link to all the threads were I proved you uneducated ?

Zyber 02-19-2011 02:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 17924190)
But that is not the real point. A great part of oil costs are the government taxes assessed ... Hence, the perception of "cheap" US energy. The taxs on fuel are lower in the US than in the EU — this is the primary reason.
Good point. :thumbsup I have to agree that this factor should also be considered.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17925292)
The current estimate for how much oil Iraq has is 112 billion barrels of oil - the world's second largest proven reserves (much more undiscovered). When we formed their government part of the condition was they sign away 25% of the their total reserves to the US. In short, 28 billion (discovered reserves) barrels of oil. Average price for a barrel of oil this year is $85.

Anyone want to do the math? 28 billion x $85. Also, for every barrel of oil sold 37% of the revenue is taxed by the Feds and State governments.
2380 billion worth of oil? That's a big chunk of US public debt. In 2002 it equalled roughly 50% of the gross US public debt. You do the conclusions.

http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/downc...or=c&l ocal=s
http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/usgs_..._a_b_b_b_b_b_b


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