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ShellyCrash 02-20-2011 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17927495)
By now you would think that direct tv, dish, and every major cable company would have a library of every movie ever made available for you to play at any time you wanted to see it. Old movies could be $1, new releases $5 they would make a fucking killing. Imagine having access to every movie ever made right on your tv. Why hasn't this happened yet. It will happen though sooner or later. When this does happen it kills redbox. Who is going to want to get in the car and drive to pick up a movie when it can be rented via your remote. A few people would still go because redbox is a little cheaper but most wont.

It's all about convenience + instant gratification. Everyone here who is successful in advertising should be very familiar with this.

It's what I'm waiting for, I'm sure it is going to be a logistical nightmare to make it happen, but when it does I know I personally would pay more that a few bucks per flick to be able to watch what I want when I want. Something similar to old school brick and mortar, like $5.99 and you can view for 3-5 days would be a decent price point. Gas alone should balance it out.

Something else they should do is offer theatrical releases on demand in the home. My cable company already does this now with a few limited release indie films. I think the category is "In Theatres Now" or some such. I think they should expand it to cover everything.

I know that sounds like a lazy man's idea, and would probably hurt theatres more, but when I was really ill a few years ago and I could barely leave the house I would have paid out the nose to have been able to watch what was going on when it was happening. Charge something high like $40 or $50 and make it a one time showing, not a 24 hour access at any time.

ShellyCrash 02-20-2011 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17929603)
How old are you, no offense but you come across as someone who is older and set in their ways. Unless you are a hermit and never leave home or live more than 10-20 mins away from a red box I don't see how you can like paying for a monthly membership for something you might not always use and you don't always get what you want when you do go to use it and on top of that you might have to wait up to 2-3 days to get what you didn't even wanted...

I don't know him super well but Fuze is pretty young (relatively) and doesn't strile me as the lazy type.

I know redbox has it's advantages, they are by far the cheapest & you only pay for what you use, but it also has it's limitations. For me the biggest hurdle is I seek out less mainstream titles. I'm not going to say I don't take in and enjoy my share of blockbusters, cause I do. I'm not a snob about my movies, but 9 times out of 10 the new releases don't appeal to me. Also if you're looking for blueray they've got less stock to work with, more likely you may be to have to wait.

freehotphonesexcom 02-21-2011 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17929603)
Crappy selection of movies??? they have all the new releases lol.

Actually as noted on here earlier, to get all the new releases, you have to go to your local video store. Redbox typically has movies about a month after release. The studios now are wanting that window increased to 2 months, and rumor has it, they are going to make that reality this year. That will make those movies pretty damn old by the time you see them and just so you can save $1-2??? Redbox really wants a streaming product these days, so like Netflix, they will probably kiss ass to make that happen and agree to terms like the 60 days of waiting for releases at the expense of their DVD customers.

Redbox's streaming product will suck too. Netflix already has a lot of agreements in place. They are going to be limited to D titles and year(s) old crap. I don't think many people are wanting/asking Redbox for a streaming product but they are greedy and looking for a way to extend their lifespan (past the expected demise of physical DVD's).

Redbox's copies/selection is very limited. A video store can stock thousands of titles, and can carry hundreds of the same new release title by participating in copy-depth terms with the studios. Redbox machines just weren't built to hold that many DVD's.

I've also heard complaints about scratched DVD's and no way to get an exchange without a hassle, etc. Redbox is an "ok" solution but far from perfect.

Netflix is not a great solution either. People keep comparing them to Redbox here saying movies in 2-3 days. Well it depends. Once I added a concert to my queue and it took 3-4 MONTHS?!?! I would add other things to my list, and they would always arrive first when I really wanted to see the concert. And that's the flaw of Netflix. It's great if you add a whole bunch of crap to a list and don't want to see something specific. But if you are ever wanting something specific or need a certain title within a reasonable timeframe, good luck. They aren't good at new releases. They aren't good with picking a specific older movie you really need. I guess it's good if you want to spend $10-30 and get below-satellite/cable quality entertainment choices.

Video stores might be old fashioned but they work. Especially buy/sell/trade/rent stores. There is a place called Hastings in my city I just discovered last year thats part of a chain and they are interesting. Great rental rates, low low low sale prices on used discs and many many ex-rental-to-own discs to choose from. Seems to be their speciality. It's usually a cool browsing experience for me going in there. They also do books/music and unlike all of the money losing chains like Movie Gallery, Hollywood, Blockbuster, a quick Google search reveals they are profitable. They seem to get it.

Blockbuster never evolved and for the most part should be avoided but their online/store combo is sometimes worth a second look. You can really take advantage of the in-store rental thing and if you have a location near enough to you, it can be the perfect combo of new great stuff/instant gratification/rare stuff you wont find in the stores. All the Blockbusters near me closed tho, and their mail service alone sucks.

will76 02-21-2011 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by freehotphonesexcom (Post 17929820)
Actually as noted on here earlier, to get all the new releases, you have to go to your local video store. Redbox typically has movies about a month after release. The studios now are wanting that window increased to 2 months, and rumor has it, they are going to make that reality this year. That will make those movies pretty damn old by the time you see them and just so you can save $1-2??? Redbox really wants a streaming product these days, so like Netflix, they will probably kiss ass to make that happen and agree to terms like the 60 days of waiting for releases at the expense of their DVD customers.

Redbox's streaming product will suck too. Netflix already has a lot of agreements in place. They are going to be limited to D titles and year(s) old crap. I don't think many people are wanting/asking Redbox for a streaming product but they are greedy and looking for a way to extend their lifespan (past the expected demise of physical DVD's).

Redbox's copies/selection is very limited. A video store can stock thousands of titles, and can carry hundreds of the same new release title by participating in copy-depth terms with the studios. Redbox machines just weren't built to hold that many DVD's.

I've also heard complaints about scratched DVD's and no way to get an exchange without a hassle, etc. Redbox is an "ok" solution but far from perfect.

Netflix is not a great solution either. People keep comparing them to Redbox here saying movies in 2-3 days. Well it depends. Once I added a concert to my queue and it took 3-4 MONTHS?!?! I would add other things to my list, and they would always arrive first when I really wanted to see the concert. And that's the flaw of Netflix. It's great if you add a whole bunch of crap to a list and don't want to see something specific. But if you are ever wanting something specific or need a certain title within a reasonable timeframe, good luck. They aren't good at new releases. They aren't good with picking a specific older movie you really need. I guess it's good if you want to spend $10-30 and get below-satellite/cable quality entertainment choices.

Video stores might be old fashioned but they work. Especially buy/sell/trade/rent stores. There is a place called Hastings in my city I just discovered last year thats part of a chain and they are interesting. Great rental rates, low low low sale prices on used discs and many many ex-rental-to-own discs to choose from. Seems to be their speciality. It's usually a cool browsing experience for me going in there. They also do books/music and unlike all of the money losing chains like Movie Gallery, Hollywood, Blockbuster, a quick Google search reveals they are profitable. They seem to get it.

Blockbuster never evolved and for the most part should be avoided but their online/store combo is sometimes worth a second look. You can really take advantage of the in-store rental thing and if you have a location near enough to you, it can be the perfect combo of new great stuff/instant gratification/rare stuff you wont find in the stores. All the Blockbusters near me closed tho, and their mail service alone sucks.

Some movies are delayed but they are also delayed on Netflix too. 30 days wait, its still a new release. I go by redbox time, once you 30 days behind then its all relative really. The "local" video store will be gone in 5 years. I doubt there will be any left.

You save more than $1 or $2 ... Last time I was in blockbuster if I remember right it was $5 rental. Redbox $1... Not to mention the ridicules late fees blockbuster charged. I've always waited longer in line at blockbuster then I ever had at a redbox kiosk and redbox is open 24/7.

A video store can stock 1,000's of videos but I bet 90%+ of their rentals are new releases. That is why they have to buy 50-100 of the new popular releases and they keep just 1 or 2 on the shelf of the old shit. Once it gets old, it just sits there because they had the shelves to hold it and because the movies were already paid for. Most people who rent movies rent new releases. The people who want the old stuff would be perfect for Netflix, that is the stuff they could put in their que and get it every time since not many people want it.

Like I said already, if Netflix takes over with the streaming they will rule. The first one to get it going right with streaming will own the market. Everything I have been talking about with Redbox is what is happening now and how it compares now to the other current options.

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 17929705)
I don't know him super well but Fuze is pretty young (relatively) and doesn't strile me as the lazy type.

I know redbox has it's advantages, they are by far the cheapest & you only pay for what you use, but it also has it's limitations. For me the biggest hurdle is I seek out less mainstream titles. I'm not going to say I don't take in and enjoy my share of blockbusters, cause I do. I'm not a snob about my movies, but 9 times out of 10 the new releases don't appeal to me. Also if you're looking for blueray they've got less stock to work with, more likely you may be to have to wait.

Redbox is really only good for new release movies so yeah I agree, if you like older, rare, indy stuff, they likely wont have it.


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