that guy is a f*cking Nazi.

so he'll condemn the use of condoms, abortions and porn, but justify child porn; unbelievable!

It's YOU I should be praying for.:thumbsup

In the absence of religion, you get something worse; relativism.

Well it's evident that not only do you not understand facts(from 1 site ROFL), but you're trying your hand at mind reading. We understand that you're not too bright, but trying to educate anybody on any history is just priceless. You can't seem to understand history (mainly because you get your history from one website), so trying to educate someone else on bullshit kinda seems pointless? But yea, I think I'm enjoying your mind reading too much. LOL@refugee visa via israel.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

smartest post in this thread... i didn't notice where the link came from myself :)

quite a convenient mistranslation for sure.

Your prayers are welcome, but as you probably know, there have been well conducted studies on the efficacy of prayer and they don't work. :pimp

Oh sweet! Kindly direct me to these studies.:thumbsup

Mayo Clinic and John Templeton Foundation (a Christian organization mind you) are the two largest, most well conducted studies that I am aware of.

Google them.

hahahahaha just classic. You post some nonsense from 1 website which makes one reference to Yagobah without any actual facts, and you want me to counter it? I don't have to deny bullshit, that wouldn't even make sense. It's no wonder you're in the business that you are right now. It doesn't require any thought and you can justify your life choices with relativism while at the same time poking fun of the one thing that would make your life seem like a waste.:1orglaugh

You've got to do better than that. If I'm going to claim sources in an argument with someone and they ask for them, I'm not going to tell them to "look it up". That just ruins credibility.:)

And while you are researching, maybe you'd like to pick these back up?

http://gofuckyourself.com/showpost.p...9&postcount=60
http://gofuckyourself.com/showpost.p...1&postcount=92

LOL, okay...

Not sure why you want me to research the first one because after I found you several sites, you wanted something that was peer reviewed which tells me you're already convinced in your own thinking and no amount of evidence will convince you otherwise, otherwise you wouldn't specify the type of evidence.. Then again, you seem to be of the belief that "absence of proof is proof of absence".

The second link, you linked me to a gallup poll to prove your point? Not sure you understand the concept of a representative sample.

Here's the Mayo Study

Aviles JM, Whelan SE, Hernke DA, et al. (December 2001). "Intercessory prayer and cardiovascular disease progression in a coronary care unit population: a randomized controlled trial". Mayo Clinic Proceedings 76 (12): 1192?8. doi:10.4065/76.12.1192. PMID 11761499.

Congratulations, you're one of the first people on this forum to actually back up his assertion. Interesting study.. But I agree, I'm not sure why anybody would believe that prayer improves physical conditions.

I was referring to the Epic of Gilgamesh and the fact that your text and stories borrow from earlier Near East civilizations.

I had no problem accepting the possibility of a regional flood, which is what your articles were about. Worldwide flood with all the animals in an Ark... Yeah, I take issue with that belief and you have not provided any evidence for that.

Did you explain how it follows and how closely paralleled the stories are? Then again, that's like saying that "Avatar" just copied Dances With Wolves when their stories happened to be similar.

Well I wasn't trying to convince you so I didn't provide evidence of a worldwide flood, although it was a possibility. There's no evidence that it couldn't happen either so we just left it at that.

I try not to talk out of my ass. :thumbsup

I looked for the Templeton study, but have not found it, just some articles about it. I'm sure you would rather see the peer-reviewed study, so I'll keep looking.

No, I did not. I actually expected you to do your own work -- under the assumption that you are actually interested in the subject (which you said you were).

This seems like a recurring theme, though and I'm not sure how far I want to go in typing it all out for you.

However, if you really, really want me to do it... I'll do it for the Epic of Gilgamesh. :)



A world wide flood covering all landmass is not a physical possibility. I'd venture a guess that getting all the animals in existence at the time Noah supposedly existed would not fit in his Ark, either. :winkwink:

I would do my own work if the discussion required me to prove you wrong. Since it didn't, I dropped it.





I believe I gave you many links for this which you said didn't suffice, then you said you wanted only peer reviewed links.

I see... well, that will save me some typing. :)

When/if you get to the point where finding out whether Noah and The Flood story is even an original Hebrew tale, you know where to start.







Honestly, I remembered the articles as discussing the possibility of a regional flood. Were they suggesting a world-wide flood?

I believe so, I'll dig them up.

Here's a great article on the WORLDWIDE FLOOD and even charts flood narratives from ALL OVER THE WORLD http://www.nwcreation.net/noahlegends.html

In the country of Scandinavia people fuck animals and cum down their ear channel.

You refuse to answer my post about the children that God murdered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagues_of_Egypt

Killing Caanites.

http://www.facingthechallenge.org/joshua6.php

Jericho

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jericho

These are just 2 examples where God commanded the Jews to kill children. The examples of where this happens isn't confined to the Judaism. It goes through many religion, Musim, Christian and even Sun worshipers.

So either God is evil or religion is evil. Maybe some would like to shift the blame away from them to religion, like they do with guns. Absolving themselves from the blame.

Then if you look deeper you have to wonder if any God is just a figment of peoples imagination to use religion to carry out their evil deeds, gain power and make money. Or shift the blame. Like the Nazis many religious people claim to be doing under the orders of a higher power. Hitler of God.

Thereby in their heads absolving them of the blame.

The number #1 killer of all time by the way.

I just can't understand why someone educated with all his brain, believe in such crap, all made up by men.

Anyways...

Lost cause.

The flood that led to many stories around the World is put down to the last Ice Age. When the ice surrounding the enormous lake, that was where the Great Lakes are now, melted and cause sea levels to rise. It cause the flooding of a lake in the location of todays Black Sea.

The World Wide spread of the story is very logically explained by flooding and Tsunamis not being isolated one off events.

I dug them up for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_%28prehistoric%29

As early man had no understanding of these things. What a great way for the priests and rulers to control their people. Do as we tell you God commands or perish in a flood.

The problem with the Ark story is easy to explain. The Ark wasn't big enough to carry all the creatures on the Earth at that time, only big enough to carry the animals the people telling the story thought existed. And even if it just carried them, it was not big enough and not sea worthy.

Plus the technology of the time, it couldn't be built. Nice story to frighten the kids with. Just like the big bad bogey man. In reality more bullshit.

If you want to read a modern bullshitter tripping out illogical crap to answer critics with the truth http://www.christiananswers.net/crea...tastrophe.html

"It's in the Bible so it must be true." Even though the bible is bullshit.

All Hail The Mighty Lord Troll.

Paul, you are a fucking genius.

3 pages of people viewing your sig and all you're doing is winding them up.

You da man!

Any idea where I can get 19 HD videos for 150 bucks anyone? Preferably with bored looking eastern european chicks in?

But religous freaks won't by him content for sure hahahaha