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{Psycho} 02-25-2011 04:38 PM

Paxum is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than payonner and probably CashX

Problems do happen to everyone even Liberty Reserve got high level DDos they recovered and they are much more stronger then ever

willwank 02-25-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 17941343)
What gives? I read that they replaced their CEO Yuval Tal with a guy from Visa or Mastercard.

Smart move if correct.

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot
I see they have all the major programs using their services including GammaCash, Live Jazmin, HustlerCash, MyFreeCams.com, IMLive, StreamMates, VSMedia etc.

Note how much cams there are in that bunch ;) Except for that, don't care, never made a dime with any of these programs.

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot
It's a little confusing but we made a big spreadsheet and did a very granular comparison.

Then show us this granular comparison that shows identical cost to other major competitors for an average affiliate spread out over a year. Or better, start your own thread where you post it.

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot
We didn't find anything questionable about Payoneer.

Good stuff, you are obviously ok with what you found. Many are not and question their setup and heritage. Hence questionable. But not for all including you.

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot
Furthermore they own part of the bank where the fund are secured.

Cut me a slice of that, I mean it.
Someone else in the the very recent past had a similar setup! Search is your friend :)

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot
Very curious what other feedback the board has on this company.

Don't know how much you have read GFY re Payoneer and their services and support. Feel free to search. But by all means, I am sure they work and I am sure you can find happy customers. Just seemed like a big cash grab when they introduced themselves to the adult side of things. Compared to EMC2, Paxum, CashX and a cpl of others they came across as a poor alternative for affiliates. If Payoneer didn't have payouts to a large number of ppl in cam circles no one would ever mention them. If you are not a 100 to 500 bucks/month affiliate with one or more of the programs you mentioned above there is really no need for anyone to signup with Payoneer imho.

Finally, if you or Perl want to promote Payoneer it would be much better to stay out of threads where competitors problems are the topic. Don't care if Perl's cookies are to die for, still bad form :)

pimpsalot 02-25-2011 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by willwank (Post 17941396)
Smart move if correct.



Note how much cams there are in that bunch ;) Except for that, don't care, never made a dime with any of these programs.



Then show us this granular comparison that shows identical cost to other major competitors for an average affiliate spread out over a year. Or better, start your own thread where you post it.



Good stuff, you are obviously ok with what you found. Many are not and question their setup and heritage. Hence questionable. But not for all including you.



Cut me a slice of that, I mean it.
Someone else in the the very recent past had a similar setup! Search is your friend :)



Don't know how much you have read GFY re Payoneer and their services and support. Feel free to search. But by all means, I am sure they work and I am sure you can find happy customers. Just seemed like a big cash grab when they introduced themselves to the adult side of things. Compared to EMC2, Paxum, CashX and a cpl of others they came across as a poor alternative for affiliates. If Payoneer didn't have payouts to a large number of ppl in cam circles no one would ever mention them. If you are not a 100 to 500 bucks/month affiliate with one or more of the programs you mentioned above there is really no need for anyone to signup with Payoneer imho.

Finally, if you or Perl want to promote Payoneer it would be much better to stay out of threads where competitors problems are the topic. Don't care if Perl's cookies are to die for, still bad form :)


1. I don't think I am going to do your homework for you. Smart businesses will do the analysis. If you want to buy my analysis I am happy to sell it to you.

2. When you say "Many are not and question their setup and heritage" can you provide more details here. What heritage sorry? They are a VC Backed company with offices in NYC and Tel Aviv. Their setup is identical to all the other payout solutions...card backed into an offshore bank.

3. This isn't ePassporte where one of the owners of the company owned part of the bank. Payoneer is a _real_company with investors, a board, officers, offices, charters and more than enough documentation to show they are a legitimate business operating in a variety of industries including the medical industry, summer camps, artists, MLM and adult. It's not a one trick Pony. Nobody at Payoneer owns part of the bank. The company itself owns part of the bank... BIG DIFFERENCE.

4. I don't think anyone in this industry would consider a $100 to $500 a month affiliate to be valueless nor would they let them tell them how to run their business. Payoneer has admitted repeatedly that they are working to improve their service offering and their support. They have moved forward with supporting NATS and MPA3, have sponsored a variety of events for the adult community including InterNEXT and XBiz and they have generally started the process of addressing this marketplace properly. I think we all can agree that at first they were just drug into the space by all of ePassporte's former customers and they weren't necessarily prepared but they have been responsive and they are reviewing what they do to improve everyone's experience.

5. I am going to take a firm stance here and respond with "PLEASE." There's no rule here at GFY that prevents anyone from posting on anyone else's threads. You and anyone else that's trying to intimidate Payoneer by telling them to beat it off this thread is blowing hot air. Go read Paxum's posts on _EVERY_ Payoneer thread on this board. Everytime someone has said something bad about Payoneer Chris or Ruth or someone from Paxum has jumped in and said something spammish about Paxum. Let's not try to bend the rules for our own benefit. Payoneer is a valuable player in this space and they deserve the same level of respect and support and love that all of the companies here do.

willwank 02-25-2011 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 17941443)
1. I don't think I am going to do your homework for you. Smart businesses will do the analysis. If you want to buy my analysis I am happy to sell it to you.

Hehe, liked that one.

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot
2. When you say "Many are not and question their setup and heritage" can you provide more details here. What heritage sorry? They are a VC Backed company with offices in NYC and Tel Aviv. Their setup is identical to all the other payout solutions...card backed into an offshore bank.

Man, just do a little research on the Israeli side. Ditto, won't do it for you. If you are fine you are fine. Just acknowledge that many are not.

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot
3. This isn't ePassporte where one of the owners of the company owned part of the bank. Payoneer is a _real_company with investors, a board, officers, offices, charters and more than enough documentation to show they are a legitimate business operating in a variety of industries including the medical industry, summer camps, artists, MLM and adult. It's not a one trick Pony. Nobody at Payoneer owns part of the bank. The company itself owns part of the bank... BIG DIFFERENCE.

Never said it wasn't legit. Still, cut me a slice of that, I mean it.
What Mr Mallick owned part of the bank? News to me. Thought it was completely diff but never mind... what do I know.

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot
You and anyone else that's trying to intimidate Payoneer

Now I really feel bad.

Dude, if I feel it is bad form I feel it is bad form. If you, Perl or Payoneer feel intimidated is of no concern to me. I'm right to my opinion so suck it up :2 cents:

Talia_Payoneer 02-25-2011 05:53 PM

Not intimidated. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I'm all for that. =)

pimpsalot 02-25-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by willwank (Post 17941480)
Hehe, liked that one.



Man, just do a little research on the Israeli side. Ditto, won't do it for you. If you are fine you are fine. Just acknowledge that many are not.


Wait so you are saying because Payoneer was started in Israel that it's an issue for you? Why don't you just cut the word games out and lay out what you are saying here?


Never said it wasn't legit. Still, cut me a slice of that, I mean it.
What Mr Mallick owned part of the bank? News to me. Thought it was completely diff but never mind... what do I know.



Now I really feel bad.

Dude, if I feel it is bad form I feel it is bad form. If you, Perl or Payoneer feel intimidated is of no concern to me. I'm right to my opinion so suck it up :2 cents:


1. Wait so you are saying because Payoneer was started in Israel that it's an issue for you? Why don't you just cut the word games out and lay out what you are saying here?

2. I never said anything of the sort. Does the name Gregory ring a bell? :)

3. Again, that's just your issue and only your issue. As I said before, Paxum felt it was proper to post on EVERY THREAD ON GFY where Payoneer was the topic and so yeah it's proper and warranted and, according to the rules here at GFY. There's no reason why they shouldn't. Nothing to suck up. They are just exercising their rights to post like everyone else

Chris 02-25-2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 17941492)
3. Again, that's just your issue and only your issue. As I said before, Paxum felt it was proper to post on EVERY THREAD ON GFY where Payoneer was the topic and so yeah it's proper and warranted and, according to the rules here at GFY. There's no reason why they shouldn't. Nothing to suck up. They are just exercising their rights to post like everyone else

Edit: I stand corrected -

I have nothing against payoneer - We meet them in Vegas :-)

willwank 02-25-2011 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 17941492)
Wait so you are saying because Payoneer was started in Israel that it's an issue for you?

No. Last time I went back to Norway I had some delicious Israeli potatoes, nom nom nom. Beats potatoes from Cyprus every time. Does that answer your question? If not take your insinuation and stick it where the sun don't shine. Do your homework.

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot
They are just exercising their rights to post like everyone else[/I]

And I am exercising my right to say that in my book it is bad form. No need to be a cry baby about it, unless you want to intimidate others that is.

LRS 02-25-2011 06:50 PM

it always take like 10 minutes for me to transfer cash to the mastercard.. if this can be fixed it would rock..

Chris 02-25-2011 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LRS (Post 17941561)
it always take like 10 minutes for me to transfer cash to the mastercard.. if this can be fixed it would rock..

Are you have the delay after you login and click the Transfer Funds button or is it after you get to that page and input the amount you want to transfer to your card?


chris

pimpsalot 02-27-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by willwank (Post 17941539)
No. Last time I went back to Norway I had some delicious Israeli potatoes, nom nom nom. Beats potatoes from Cyprus every time. Does that answer your question? If not take your insinuation and stick it where the sun don't shine. Do your homework.



And I am exercising my right to say that in my book it is bad form. No need to be a cry baby about it, unless you want to intimidate others that is.


Man no need to be so irrational and baiting. You said that many question Payoneer because of their "setup and heritage" and I asked you to explain please. You then replied that you eat Israeli potatoes and to "stick my" insinuation where "the sun don't shine".

The thing is I sunbathe nude and when I lay on my stomach the sun shines everywhere.

All you had to do was explain your comment. You don't want to? Fine. I get it.

Nobody's crying about anything except you. The point here being anyone can say anything on a thread and you aren't the standard for form and we are going to just do our thing here.

And to your last point, clearly you are a wordsmith. You tried to intimidate Payoneer, I pointed it out, now you are accusing me of your crimes.

Let's just move on please. Nobody cares about this sidebar anyways.

willwank 02-27-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 17943803)

Let's just move on please. Nobody cares about this sidebar anyways.

So true, why are you bumping it then?

Do your homework on the gallery of persons... You wanted to sell me "your big spreadsheet with a granular comparison" why would I do any homework for you? Put your money where your mouth is or stfu. That's the last from me, you'r welcome :)


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