I think there are times when it's ok to have to belong to a union to get the job, Construction is one of them, I felt better working on a union only job because I knew that the other workers I worked with had some training. I did throw one guy off a job and he damn near got the crap beaten out of him for sweeping debris into an elevator shaft.

Unions are not a guarantee that you will be safe, employers push the rules sometimes harder when a union is in place, working as a teamster I saw that several times.

Don't get me started on unions. I know someone here who works for the city. His job consists of sitting in a booth and pressing a button to weight garbage trucks when they come into the yard. He makes around 65k a year, full benefits, 6 weeks vacation and 40 sick days a year. I would lose my mind doing the job but that should be a $15/hr job.

If the city/state or company want to fuck with you as an employee it's hard to get away with it if you have the voice of many backing you up. But if you are just one person then you're fucked

Funny how these politicians what to cut benefits, and pay of others, but refuse to have the same done to their benefits, pay, and perks.

Hey that is Gov Unions for you.
I am against gov unions, but private ones are a necessary evil

Yep isnt that funny how that works but still people see them as serious.

I think they should take a cut in pay to show, sort of like the new speaker of the house did by refusing his jet and flying commercial.

The cuts that Wisconsin made in corporate taxes are not to blame, they haven't gone into effect yet, not till June.

The budget is a mess there, mainly because of the last governor, he got caught raiding money from one account to pay another and now the state has to pay it back. With fines and lawyer fees.

Unions should exist only to fight for workers right and not for privileges.
It's obvious that public sector unions want only public workers privileges.
FUCK THEM

Unions are like ANY other institution--once the initial mandate has been achieved, it morphs into something else. In essence, it is a solution trying to find a problem to fix. Why? If it doesn't, it won't have any reason to exist, it won't need further funding.

This dynamic applies to many other situations, not just unions.

fuck that's funny. to you some crooked fuckwad giving up his private jet is the same as a family cutting into their everyday budget.

you are the stereotypical brainwashed american fighting against their own interests, it's right out of central casting. i could almost think you are some right-wing astroturf forum bot.

I love whatever I'm against you are for, I'm glad I have yet another fan, almost as stupid as BryanG or that fucktard GatorB, why do they both end in a letter like that I wonder?

I wasn't comparing someones family with Boehner, I was comparing him to the state senate, but since you failed in your hooked on phonics course, you missed that.

So am I to believe that you were for Speaker Pelosi useing Air Force aircraft to travel back to her district at an average cost of $28,210.51 per flight?
Atleast Boehner is cutting the cost of travel when states are having such fucked up budget short falls.

You can twist around what I say to all your delight and use this to call me names, but in the end, I'm just having a conversation with an idiot!

Unions have priced American labor out of the market and destroyed this country! :2 cents:

Indeed, I do remember the rednecks.

No we need to make sure are government does the right thing. To many chiefs mean nothing gets done.