I know, right? I don't drive much - I work from home and rarely stray far - but it seemed like every time I did go out the freeway was empty. It was nice.

the price is insane :) electric car is not an option for me

Don;t even bother with him. He is clueless as to the public transportation system here.

In Holland every public transport costs more money than profits. So the government has to put a lot of money in it. The profitable lines are the ones between the cities.

And the government bastards are giving tickets for safetybelts. But when i want to buy a realy save car, there is a luxury tax so that car is 3 times more expensive than anywhere in the world?? How many people would have survived car accidents when they would have driven a Mercedes instead of a Opel? And the new BMW are even better for the environment than most Opels. To collect money the government plays with our lives.

The americans are complaining, and they are right! If you don't complain the government wll fuck you like they do here. Public transport sucks here.

Eh? 7 buses a day here.

pls post pics of your ford mustang so I can reminisce about my 16th b-day party

Wait a sec, what about bicycles?

Yup, you nailed it. A 500 000 US city is probably 3-4 times bigger (areawise) than a 500 000 city in Europe and public transport probably won't be economically viable...

make a wrong turn in zurich you end up in germany

I did know it was going up I just didn't think it would go up so much in 3 days.


:Oh crap

Works for the Dutch.


But then again i can't imagine all those lazy fat Americans on bikes, can you ?? :1orglaugh

Give it a few months. By summer it should be nice and co$tly. :winkwink:

Looks like I'll be breaking out the mountain bike a little more than usual this year.

So how many miles do you guys do on a gallon?

We pay ~$1.50 per litre here for premium (98RON) which is ~$5.60 a gallon (AUD). With current AUD - USD conversions, that would be about $500 USD.

Netherlands: $8.77 for 1 gallon reg fuel, $9.10 for 98RON and $7.24 for 1 gallon of diesel



so stop complaining!

what he said - $7.79 /gallon here in france (€1.50/l for 95RON)

almost $7,50 here in Poland (and even more expensive in germany), and i still drive an SUV.
We would LOVE to be paying $4-5, even $6/gal

You can't even get LPG here for that price. Running my bbq costs more then running a car in USA...

Stop crying, In Sweden it's like $7.4 for a gallon.

But I think it's good, people use their cars too much anyway.
Use your fucking legs or get a bike.

You pay over $10 a gallon?

I do use my fucking legs thank you very much! It's kinda hard to walk from the grocery store with a bunch of bags.

Havent you heard of a shopping cart?

Start complaining, else you will be screwed like us! Dutch are not willing to protest and get robed easily.

And the government makes the prices high, that way they try to force you in public transportation, like sardines.

I live in Toronto but I've been to glasgow many times. The public transport in glasgow is above and beyond better than it is here. Toronto is massive in size compared to glasgow and the bus/subway system sucks balls. I refuse to take it. When I was in barcelona I could not believe how good the subways were. I would never own a car if I lived in barcelona.

they fucking Libia and we get gas problems :(

So you think I should buy a shopping cart and walk the 13 miles to the store and 13 miles back? It does sound delightful but that's not going to happen.

I wasn't talking just to you, I was screaming it out to everyone on earth. :winkwink:

That is what I said if you scroll up and read.

The plan is to get shit heads off the rod and open them up for those who have money and work for a living.

Has it ever occurred to you that the problem isn't USA drivers paying too little for gasoline but EU drivers being forced to pay too much?


When this subject comes up I, for one, can't help it. It's kinda like what happens when the doctor taps your knee with one of those little rubber hammers.

Trust me I used to think the same, but he is right... Public transport in Scotland and the UK as a whole is FAR superior to North America.

Where we live now, you have to take 2 buses to get from our house to the city centre... its a 10 min drive but turns into an hours travelling. At least from our place in Scotland there is several buses that hit Glasgow City Centre, not to mention trains.

You do have a point.


:winkwink:

I've been walking for over a year now. The grocery is a half mile away and I walk with my own cart and re-usable bags. I would not do 26 miles though!

That's how the bus system here is, takes a hour to get 15 mins down the road.

:Oh crap

Just do like me before the crisis, buy commodities.
Make profit of the rising oil prices.

I wouldn't mind of the money went to something good, but gas companies re crooked greedy gangs.