you did good, bro
ive got some new submitters from this thread ... :thumbsup

can you send me a list of ad spots and prices?

[email protected]

thx

I think the main thing to find is a sponsor that has the same audience as your site / traffic source...

We have several affiliates from arty indy websites and they make good sales at racios that don't seem to have changed much over the years...

Affiliates that send us traffic from very different niches find that it will convert poorly...no surprise there.

From galleries we have very varies results, from free posting we have had ok results, and then sales from galleries posted years ago, we paid for listing and had no sales for months and then after we stoped, sales came in...

I can be a long time between a punter visiting a site for the first time and buying... trust issues ?

We do not cheat our affiliates, why would we?

We think we offer a good deal though, after all we make the films photos, pay for the hosting, etc 50% for the traffic is a pretty good deal....

There's certainly still good money to be made with affiliate programs. :pimp

would like to get ads rates too
daizzzySIGNBUCKSDAILYcom

Pic your sites and niches. The answer is still yes.

right here, bros ....

http://shemp.com/webmasters/rates.htm

I've been looking around for some new sponsors to replace some who are not converting well and what I've found are some very strict TOS.
I'm all for knowing where you stand before you begin to promote a sponsor, but if you look at sponsor TOS over the last year or so they have tightened up dramatically. Many sponsors update their TOS without telling affiiates (because we are expected to check them regularly). And with some sponsors there are so many 'get out clauses' in their TOS, they could get rid of most affiliates without paying them if they chose to do so.

I'm not naming any names here - if you read your sponsor TOS you may have some of these, but hopefully you won't:

• Sponsors who demand to know the exact place on a page on each of your websites where you are showing each of their banners.
• Sponsors who previously encouraged affiliates to name their brands on their sites and who now say this is a violation of their trademarks.
• Sponsors who used to encourage affiliates to build landing pages which looked like their own sites and now ban them for doing so.
• Sponsors who are now saying you must have a warning page (even on a blog) when they didn't say this before.
• Sponsors who insist you do not link to the join page even though their tours are crap.
• Sponsors who insist on no changes to the anchor text used in their links at all, even if it reads ridiculously on your blog.
• Sponsors who insist you do not change their link codes with php or a cloaking plugin, even though their codes break your sites.
• Sponsors who change their link codes and not changing them immediately on all your sites can be reason for banning.
• Sponsors who say they will ban you for spamming if you get too many chargebacks in a pay period, even though there is often nothing you can do about it.
• Sponsors who say they will ban affiliates who send them traffic from certain countries, even though, even with .htaccess coding this isn't always possible.
• Sponsors who say they will ban affiliates if their ref codes are found on a forum, even if the affiliate didn't put them there.
• Sponsors who have no idea that the average TGP or blog needs more than 8 of their galleries to promote.
• Sponsors who insist you do not modify or compress their pictures in any way and then send you zips full of 2meg pics.
• Sponsors who suddenly want to know more details about their 'foreign' (non US) affiliates than their own mother knows.

And then you get:

• Sponsors who let you fill in the sign up form, say you will hear in 48 hours, but you never hear from them for 6 months and thats to tell you you're banned for not sending any traffic.
• Sponsors where you make an immediate sale or two when you sign up and then your ratios fall back to 1:4000.

I could go on but I've probably said enough. :)

You have nailed it perfectly on all counts!

MrMaxwell is on a long road to Comeback and is working on catchup and more power to him!

Lots of whiners and haters around here and lately it has been virtually impossible to carry on any kind of sensible business discussion.

[QUOTE=izzynew;17956287]And then you get:[LIST][*]Sponsors who let you fill in the sign up form, say you will hear in 48 hours, but you never hear from them for 6 months and thats to tell you you're banned for not sending any traffic.
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So many sites out there, surly it is not so hard to pick a few, e-mail them, and ignore the ones that ignore you...

from the other side of the fence, we write to our affiliates every few weeks, but get very little feedback.
They seem to be happy doing what they do...

fifty no-clue guys

Is this Shemp Speak for "You're going to love your free PA"? :winkwink:

I think that all comes down to.. Some sponsors decide to fuck you, some don't.
In this business when I was doing well I always found that a sponsor can and will up and decide to fuck you, any time.. you just find "the ones who won't" and deal with them until they do :1orglaugh

I doubt that I will ever make some big comeback in this business.
I am not going to put 16 hour days into something that's insanely more difficult than is necessary. Many other things are much much easier online from what I can see, these days....

It would be nice if there was something I could do that wouldn't take thousands of hours - but I don't see that being out there in adult, today

That's like saying.. my ass is amazing.. and not showing it to anyone
You want to come in and say none of us have a clue, why not say something and show that you do :winkwink:

Baiting you isn't going to work.. :mad:

Fine
:upsidedow

Sponsors where you make an immediate sale or two when you sign up and then never again with 10x the traffic:disgust

Search for better sponsors and try geotargeting etc. Blogs are easy, but you have to wait for results some time and it is good to have nice number of them.