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I'm not falling for that argumentum ad misericordiam, but nice try :thumbsup

I'm not sure about Karma as defined by Buddhists and Hindus... I do know that "you reap what you sow" is true. Personally. However, to apply it in a mass scale to the tsunami/earthquake victims in Japan is a bit ham-fisted and I wouldn't go that far.

What argument? The reasonable one? Seriously, karma as most people define it, is a crock of shit. Sorry, but I dunno how you msanaged to convince yourself via science that doing bad shit brings bad shit to you, and doing good shit brings good shit to you. I could sit here all fucking day and provide perfectly good examples of good people getting fucked, and bad people living perfectly happy. Where's your retort? Oh ya, there isn't one. There's no attempt to appeal to your pity here, just common sense, which you have apparently lost all sense of... :2 cents:

If you don't know or don't understand somehing, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist...

I suppose Karma is comforting thing to believe in.
But if there is Karma it applies to individuals and not nations.
There are good people and bad people in every nation.

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as i alluded to earlier, the proof i have is life. there simply is not one single instance of karma i can point to. not one instance in the news, wiki, science article, research lab, any where i have looked or inquired.

but i am open, so please, point out a karmic event. if it can be explained just like a cell phone, then a karmic event should be as easily to refer to as pointing to a cell phone.

the implication being you know and understand karma right? so please, point me to a karmic event i can see.

see, karma is a word to describe things that people deep down realize they have absolutely zero control over.

when do you hear people talk about/bring in karma? typically when they are slighted or wronged and have no recourse so "karma's gonna get" the wrong doer.

or it's used in past tense to explain events that are overwhelming to some, karma got japan for pearl harbor.


but the simple fact of the matter is karma is a manmade concept. mother nature is an ugly thing and far from fair. it's survival of the fittest in nature- period. no universal nature-based moral code is in effect.

Come again? Neither of those have proven anything ever... they are purely theoretical...

Oh and by the way, using theoretical doctorines like quantum mechanics to prove your arguments? That's the equivalent of saying 'because jesus made it that way' both have equal evidence..

shifting the burden of proof on him is an unsound argument practice, maybe you should have showed up to that second class of Logical Thought 101.... proof of impossibility? how could anyone EVER prove that? With that logic no argument is valid.

Tip: don't use latin when trying to make your point, makes you seem like you are desperately reaching and fresh out of a classroom, which reverberates lack of experience ;)

get out more, you will see that there is no BALANCE (the word for karma that people understand better) Terrible things happen to good people all the time. Do you really need to look for examples of this? I would bet that you even know some instances already...

Not Karma, irony. :thumbsup

The more people you do wrong the higher the chances are you'll be caught but that doesn't mean you will for sure. plenty of people get away with murder, molesting kids, rape, etc that just never ever get caught or are in any way punished for what they did.

I posted on this thread and I don't give a crap about it, that's the closest you can get to "karma" ...

It's not Karma, its the Butterfly Effect.

If she had gone out on that date with you, her life path would have changed in a big way. She might be sitting on a beach somewhere, instead of being in the car at the right time to get into the accident. You killed that girl by having a truck. Chew on that.

Any of us may have caused someone's death by just asking them for the time -- delaying them enough to be under a brick that falls from a building.

The thread began with "first, there's no such thing as karma" asking him to prove there is no such thing as karma is not "shifting the burden of proof" , the burden of proof was already on him dipshit! "unsound argument practice" I've never heard of that, neither has Google :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

In regards to all the other crap & insults you spewed, futue te ipsum.

When I was 10 my next door neighbor (the mother) gave me shit for... something. I forget what for, but she gave me a good tongue-lashing about it. I must not have thought I deserved it because while I was outside later that evening I found myself contemplating throwing a rather large snowball at the side of their house. I knew it would make a loud thumping sound inside and would likely alarm them, maybe even piss them off further, I don't know.

I decided to throw it, and sure enough... WUMP! That sucker hit full force. I ran my ass off, and as I rounded the front of my parent's house I smashed my knee on the brick planter that fronts the house and wham... down I went. I layed their writhing in pain holding my knee, all the while wondering if it was somehow some sort of payback for my malicious act.

Karma at work? I don't know. Maybe. All I know is I stopped throwing fucking snowballs at houses that day. If it was karma at work and it does exist then I'm quite certain it (karma) doesn't give a shit whether anyone believes in it or not. Often it seems to let shit slide but whenever it does decide to karmalize you, it will. Period.

I was just thankful that shot to the knee wasn't a hockey-ending injury. :D

"its karma coz they kill the whales!!!!" some crazy bitch on facebook.

Merits Sean Connery's pimp hand...

Karma is just cause and effect or a Game of chance.

If you go around burglarizing homes you have a good chance of eventually getting caught and going to jail.

Does that mean every burglar eventually gets caught cause "karma" caught up? Nope, I'm sure there's burglars out there that have pulled off million dollar heists and died of old age happy and rich. And I'm sure there are burglars that have got caught the very first time and went to jail for life. Either scenario doesn't change the fact that the more you go burglarizing the higher the chance you'll eventually get caught.

Same concept applies with a doing "good" scenario. If you're always doing good deeds you're increasing the "chance" that someone does a good deed in return. Doesn't change the fact you can be a saint and still get run over by a bus crossing the street.

That's my outlook on life.

Ditto

RE: the burglar getting away with a million dollar heist... bet he was always looking over his shoulder and didn't do some things he wanted to out of caution: karma ;) lol

Haha, that's excellent - you can't argue with the Canary :thumbsup

karma is a bitch. and then you die. then reborn again.

so, if there is such a thing as karma, it's intermittently applied randomly- at best.