Im not talking about Thailand or Cambodia, good ole' US of A.

And my other question wasn't answered.
Why cant we withdraw money via ACH or check?

After money has been withdrawn, after the transaction was made.

+1 :2 cents:

Talia, LatinCams speak for both of us here.

Right now, when a withdrawal has been made this is what I see if I click the specific transaction:

Date: 02/16/2011 TIME

Auth Number: (removed the numbers)

Cash Disbursement International
Bank Name
City
Country

USD Amount to charge: $368.00

And then I would like the foreign amount debited
the exchange rate used
which then sums up to $xxx USD
plus fees totalling $x USD
Which then amounts to a total of $368 as charged above.

Now that would be great, now there's no way to distinguish between what is fees and what exchange rate is being used for any conversions.

Right! Talia check out this my old thread about your crossborder fees

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/996423-lolll-payooner-charge-cross-border-fee-p2p-transaction.html

and about your p2p this is what you answered me:

so we pay 6.75% for a simple p2p transaction...if i transfer 1000$ i must pay 67,5$ for your fees ? I think this is a steal.

Bump it for answers of your fees especially that cross-border fee that you charge.
What is cross-border fee?

The cross border fee isn't a Payoneer fee, but a MasterCard fee. The money here doesn't go to us, it's taken by MasterCard. Every bank has a cross-border fee for transactions that take place outside of their own country. You can Google it and see it's a MasterCard fee :-)

Fitty quickies:pimp

When I send IDs into Payoneer I worry that the owner will give my identification to Mossad to commit terrorist crimes.

How has Payoneer distanced itself from Israeli terrorism and what guarantees do I have that my money/identification won't be misused??

Is your CEO still Yuval Tal, a former Israeli special forces operative? Can you honestly say that the money we put with you guys and the IDs we have to send in won't be used by Yuval Tal's friends the way British, Australian and other IDs were used in the past by those same friends?

can you answer the other questions?

welcome here!

Fucking Christ all mighty. :2 cents:

* face palm *


If there is even a 1% chance there is any connection to terrorism, you can go ahead and start the doomsday clock on this company and their bank.

I don't remember those fees on epass cards? Same bank BTW.

And why can't we withdraw money via ACH or WIRE ?

Actually, Payoneer is about to come out with a few announcements very soon, and ACH will be one of them. I will let everyone know once we have it up and running.

welcome Talia, nice to see you here

i guess my question got ignored

Actually i think your question was also an answer same time :winkwink:

Do I get a Mossad badge if I sign up??

https://load.payoneer.com/

NEVER WORKED FOR ME.

This was a reason I signed up fro Payoneer card.
But it never works, every load gets rejected tho it says:

https://myaccount.payoneer.com/pubs/...anner-load.png

BULLSHIT!

I have payoneer card, and i am very satisfied. Keep on going that way and welcome to gfy!

Can you answer my question or is your not answering it an admission that you guys are still financing terrorism?

http://warincontext.org/2010/02/25/t...er-connection/

You know what I'm talking about.

So again I'll ask in the hopes that your company doesn't ignore a serious question like this.

Is your CEO still a former Israeli special forces operative and will the money and identification that we send to Payoneer be used to commit terrorist attacks around the world.

Remember these guys??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/bsp...s_dhtml466.jpg

Those are some of the terrorists I'm talking about. They used stolen passports from Ireland, Britain, Australia and other countries.

They are wanted internationally...what kind of credit card did they use to finance their terror attack? Payoneer.

I ask you again: is my money and/or my identification in danger of getting in the hands of terrorists when I use Payoneer.

Is your CEO still Yuval Tal and has he denounced his connections to Israeli terrorism?

Very simple question PayoneerTeam, you running away from it is disturbing. Answer the question.

Unless it's Israeli terrorism in which case it is supported by the US (even if just secretly).

But terrorism is terrorism, illegal and unjustified murders are all the same, and Payoneer seems to have let a group of international terrorist assassins use their credit cards during one of their operations.

I don't know how those guys got their stolen IDs but I would NOT send ANY ID to Payoneer because you never know, I would not do ANY business with these guys until they clear up their situation and/or their CEO denounces terrorism whether it be Hamas or Israel committing the terrorism.

Read above. You aren't tracking.

Wow. Couple things to note here.

Payoneer has never accused by any court either international or in-country of any crime.

You are obviously trying to besmirch their good name by trying to connect them to what happened in Dubai.

The only facts you have are that there is news that some of these people used Payoneer cards to pay for some of their services they used.

You don't have any facts that any of these people did anything. You are repeating data provided to you by Dubai officials.

Furthermore, Payoneer no longer does business with META bank and no Yuval Tal is no longer their CEO. He stepped down quite some time ago and Scott Galit has been the CEO since the middle of 2010.

Now, about this guy Mahmoud Al Mabhouh...

From Wikipedia:

Al-Mabhouh was born in Jabalia Camp, Gaza, on February 14, 1960.[14] As a young man, he pursued weightlifting. He quit secondary school, trained as a car mechanic and later became a garage owner.[15] Al-Mabhouh had 13 siblings, and was a married father of four.[15]
In the 1970s, he joined the Muslim Brotherhood, and in the 1980s, he was reported to have been involved in sabotaging coffee shops where gambling was taking place. In 1986, the Israeli security forces arrested him for possession of an assault rifle. It has been reported that after his release, he became involved with Hamas.
According to a Hamas statement, Al-Mabhouh was involved in the 1989 abduction and killing of two Israeli soldiers, Avi Sasportas and Ilan Sa'adon, whose murders he celebrated by standing on one of the corpses.[5][16] In a video taped two weeks before his death, and broadcast on Al-Jazeera in early February, 2010, Mabhouh admitted his involvement, saying he had disguised himself as an Orthodox Jew.[17][18] In May 1989, a failed attempt was made to arrest him for his involvement in the murder of the two Israeli soldiers and he subsequently left the Gaza Strip; his home in Gaza was demolished by Israel in 1989 as retribution for the attack.[19]
According to a report in The Palestine Chronicle, al-Mabhouh had survived two assassination attempts; the first was a car bombing; the second took place in Beirut in 2009 and involved the use of poison which rendered him unconscious for 30 hours.[20]
Al-Mabhouh was believed by Israel to have been involved in smuggling weapons and explosives into Gaza.[1] He spent most of 2003 in an Egyptian jail.[21] He had been arrested and released several times by Israel. At the time of his death, Mahmoud al-Mabhouh was wanted by the Israeli, Egyptian and Jordanian governments,[21] and living in Syria.[22]
In recent years, Mabhouh is alleged to have played a key role in forging secret connections between the Hamas government in Gaza and the Al-Quds Force of the Revolutionary Guards in Iran.[7



No offense...and without taking any sides in your obvious war with Israel, I have to ask...WHO wouldn't want this guy dead? He was a terrorist who brought rockets in Gaza that were used to kill women and children and innocent civilians. Are you saying you support his actions?

Not that any of this matters because it doesn't. You are trying to take a 60 year old beef between the Israel and the Muslim Brotherhood, Syria, Jordan, Sudan, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and the Arab Liberation Army, and throw it all in our faces and frankly we don't care.

This is a business board for people in the business of making money. This isn't a geo-political watering hole for whiners.

Payoneer is a good company. They provide pre-paid MasterCards that can be used around the world and loaded from anywhere. That's what they do. Any other bullshit is just warm waste.

regardless, a quick look at the board and you'll see how active paxum reps have been for months and the majority of people talking about paxum and almost no one talking about payoneer.

As iff that matters. The "talk" on boards is just that...talk. It's not driving any company's success and at the end of the day it's meaningless.

There has been quite a bit of talk about both companies. It could be that Payoneer prefers to talk less and do more. They have signed every major program in the industry. They are handling their business. They don't use the boards for support. Nobody does really anymore.

The days of Webmasters using boards as bitch sessions so they can get what they want went poof a long time ago. If you want something, contact someone. Don't go whine about it in public.

WOW! Payoneer must pay very well ... Are you guys hiring?

I want to go on 4 month trips too.

I want to live the Chris Mallick lifestyle! :pimp

Ha! Actually, I'm new at Payoneer - I started after I got back from my trip, but I've known the company for years since a former company I worked at was one of Payoneer's first clients.

@avnTheo - Thanks :-)

@MaDalton - I'm sorry, I had missed your question, it was intentional. I need to get more info (sorry, I AM still new) and I will get back to you about that. Again, I apologize.

@CamTraffic Like we mentioned earlier, we work with Choice bank, which is based in Belize.

that's what i call a freudian slip :winkwink:

You're joking, right? If not, I'm laughing anyway :1orglaugh

Fake nick alert :1orglaugh ...

Why don't companies employ reps that know about the companies they rep anymore?

Why allow someone 'new' to screw up your PR on the biggest board in porn?

I just don't get it really...

"Hi, I don't know anything and I am new, please let me answer your questions".

Yes, but it's a p2p transaction!!! You can't charge twice for moving money from Payoneer accounts....

Um maybe you don't understand how credit cards work? Go use your own Mastercard in another country and see what happens. It's the standard. Stop making it out to be a Payoneer issue when it's a Credit Card issue.

Hey why don't you stop putting of such bad vibes. Not everyone in our industry wants words like that representing us.

Talia has done a great job of being responsive and she's quite familiar with Payoneer. If you have questions about Payoneer, ASK YOUR REP.

HI guys,

@Damien Sorry for taking a couple days to get back. I'm sorry for not having all the answers, but I am doing my best to get them and answer you.

Of course I meant unintentional :-)

@CaptainHowdy I don't have a fake nick, and I will tell you exactly why: People always find out. Also, if I WERE to build a fake nick, I would be a lot smarter than posting something when I was very new, not to mention I would probably write more.

@Chosen - I'm not kidding at all. If some companies waive it or have it mixed in to another fee, that's their choice, of course, but this is by MasterCard. Like I said, I can give you infinite links about it, but if you Google it, you will see how many posts about it there are.

That said, I am honestly turning all of your comments over, and they are all being considered as we move forward.

I wasn't having a go at you for not knowing things, I just wondered why you were placed in a position where what you need to do is answer questions when you are unable to do this?

Seems strange.

Maybe I am old fashioned, but I like the person I buy from to know about what they are trying to sell me. A basic requirement really.

I gave up, figured I would try here...

I held off on signing up for a payoneer account because you did not have P2P transactions and so I went with Paxum. I recently signed up because you now have this P2P service, and I did so through an affiliate program.

My issue now is that I cannot accept payments from people until the issuing affiliate makes their first payment... but in the meantime I have 2 people who need to pay me via payoneer (one for $1,700+ and the other for $750)... and they cannot...

My questions are:
#1- Why must the affiliate we signed up through make their first payment before we can accept P2P transactions?

#2- Is there a way we can work around this instead of waiting for that affiliate program to make it's first payout? I just had to pay renewals for over 200 domain names and I need to pay another guy over $1,600 to do some work across all 1000 of our sites (so this $ that I currently cannot receive would come in kinda handy right about now).

I just think this is silly... and really does not make a good first impression for me as far as what my first choice of accepting payments will be in the future...

Does Paxum have same cross border fees, because as much as payoneer reps want to use the catchy phrase "among the lowest" their stuff is way too expensive.

Would you ignore this bike ahead fo you?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2421/...0dc_z.jpg?zz=1