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Chosen 04-05-2011 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 18032751)
Hi everyone,

May I ask you what partners you receive payments through Payoneer with (or did?) :-)

It has something in common with crossborder withdrawal fees?

bigluv 04-05-2011 10:40 AM

Wow, the tricky language being used to sell the fees is amazing. You shoulda been a lawyer talia.

First of all, you do charge a monthly maintenance fee. Unless you have $0 in your account. Which means, anybody who actually USES your service is going to get charged.
From what I can see its like $3 a month.

Then you charge a minimum of $2 to delay the payment a couple days, $5 to delay it only a few hours on every load.

And, I'm reading off my old statement mind, a "private load fee" which looks to be a percentage of whats loaded. On a small load it was ~ $10 for me.

Please get off this misleading kick or I will put together an itemized list of what fees you charge and itemize it with what I'm charged at paxum to get the truth because although I don't have a personal axe to grind, I found your fees out of line, I found your CS to be surly when I brought it to their attention that you had competitors who charge effectively much less, and frankly I don't like people who do business like you are right now. You know, and I know, that there's very few situations where someone using
payoneer is getting a better deal than old epassporte or now paxum.

Like a snake oil salesmen.

Guys here may not know what paypal charges them or why, but that doesn't mean you get to lie about what you charge.

Seriously, tell the truth or I will do a graph that will make it obvious. I don't like being "there there'd"

bolsex 04-06-2011 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 18032751)
Hi everyone,

May I ask you what partners you receive payments through Payoneer with (or did?) :-)

Friend Finder, Pussy Cash, Adult Date Link and a few more, but most of them from Friend Finder.

pimpsalot 04-06-2011 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigluv (Post 18034153)
Wow, the tricky language being used to sell the fees is amazing. You shoulda been a lawyer talia.

First of all, you do charge a monthly maintenance fee. Unless you have $0 in your account. Which means, anybody who actually USES your service is going to get charged.
From what I can see its like $3 a month.

Then you charge a minimum of $2 to delay the payment a couple days, $5 to delay it only a few hours on every load.

And, I'm reading off my old statement mind, a "private load fee" which looks to be a percentage of whats loaded. On a small load it was ~ $10 for me.

Please get off this misleading kick or I will put together an itemized list of what fees you charge and itemize it with what I'm charged at paxum to get the truth because although I don't have a personal axe to grind, I found your fees out of line, I found your CS to be surly when I brought it to their attention that you had competitors who charge effectively much less, and frankly I don't like people who do business like you are right now. You know, and I know, that there's very few situations where someone using
payoneer is getting a better deal than old epassporte or now paxum.

Like a snake oil salesmen.

Guys here may not know what paypal charges them or why, but that doesn't mean you get to lie about what you charge.

Seriously, tell the truth or I will do a graph that will make it obvious. I don't like being "there there'd"


It's not like you have to do business with Payoneer. If you don't like them or their platform or their fees, THEN BOUNCE.

It kills me to see yet another tool up here beating up Payoneer over their business model and fees. I don't see you complaining to other Program managers that you don't like their payouts? Why aren't you complaining about how you don't like your processors fee structure either?

At the end of the day businesses make decisions based on their business. If you aren't able to make that decision or you didn't read your contract, don't come up on the board with the brights on lighting up someone trying to help.

Talia hasn't done anything to mislead anyone. You on the other hand have.

Lassitor 04-06-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 17986695)
Hi guys,

I wanted to quickly introduce myself (I of course asked for permission from the admins). I am Talia, the new Director of Community at Payoneer. I've spent the last few days going over old posts (I've commented on a couple) to get an idea of how things work here.

I realize that we have not been present on forums in the past, but this is changing starting now. I will be monitoring these forums and answering any questions and clearly any misconceptions that appear.

I would like each of you to feel free to contact me about anything - questions, comments, suggestions - anything you can think of. I can assure you, an assurance that will be proven through actions, that I AM here and I AM listening. I hope to gain your trust quickly.

Just so you know, we not only have written customer support (including support in several languages), but also live chat and direct phone call options - the phone is listed on our support page in simple view.

Over the past few months, we experienced a huge growth in customers, which is great for us, but as a result we have had to increase our customer support team. We are hiring new people all the time and we hope to catch up and go back to answering emails rapidly like before.

Until then, you can all contact me personally for any help you need. I promise I will answer - even on weekends, though my access to information may be a bit more limited on the weekends.

I hope to hear from all of you soon. Have a great day!

I am a Payoneer customer who has a Pre-paid debit card from a company that use them to pay its affiliates and content providers. I am very happy with the service from payoneer and never had any problems using the card.

Big Thumbs up for Payoneer!

bigluv 04-06-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 18036809)
It's not like you have to do business with Payoneer. If you don't like them or their platform or their fees, THEN BOUNCE.

It kills me to see yet another tool up here beating up Payoneer over their business model and fees. I don't see you complaining to other Program managers that you don't like their payouts? Why aren't you complaining about how you don't like your processors fee structure either?

At the end of the day businesses make decisions based on their business. If you aren't able to make that decision or you didn't read your contract, don't come up on the board with the brights on lighting up someone trying to help.

Talia hasn't done anything to mislead anyone. You on the other hand have.

How have I been misleading? I dunno why you're hanging off payoneers balls, but frankly, I don't really give a shit what you think. If you have a vested interest, good on ya. Personally though, I was surprised and disappointed to find out IN PRACTICE how payoneers fees affected me and I want to make sure other people don't get the same bad experience and bad treatment. Even then, I was content to leave it at that. But then I see Talia here snake oiling the sales pitch and its just too much to watch. On the other hand, I have been pleasantly surprised with paxum's service, treatment and most importantly, fees.

Talia: Please post a PLAIN ENGLISH explanation of how your fees work and when and where they are applied. Currently the fees page on your website (and has for a long time) just gives an error. An example, from load to withdrawal would do wonders for this conversation.

Paxum on the other hand gives you an up front declaration of their fees and its not hidden behind having to sign up, either. For reference: https://www.paxum.com/payment/fees.p...views/fees.xsl

moeloubani 04-06-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 17999857)
Wow. Couple things to note here.

Payoneer has never accused by any court either international or in-country of any crime.

You are obviously trying to besmirch their good name by trying to connect them to what happened in Dubai.

The only facts you have are that there is news that some of these people used Payoneer cards to pay for some of their services they used.

You don't have any facts that any of these people did anything. You are repeating data provided to you by Dubai officials.

Furthermore, Payoneer no longer does business with META bank and no Yuval Tal is no longer their CEO. He stepped down quite some time ago and Scott Galit has been the CEO since the middle of 2010.

Now, about this guy Mahmoud Al Mabhouh...

From Wikipedia:

Al-Mabhouh was born in Jabalia Camp, Gaza, on February 14, 1960.[14] As a young man, he pursued weightlifting. He quit secondary school, trained as a car mechanic and later became a garage owner.[15] Al-Mabhouh had 13 siblings, and was a married father of four.[15]
In the 1970s, he joined the Muslim Brotherhood, and in the 1980s, he was reported to have been involved in sabotaging coffee shops where gambling was taking place. In 1986, the Israeli security forces arrested him for possession of an assault rifle. It has been reported that after his release, he became involved with Hamas.
According to a Hamas statement, Al-Mabhouh was involved in the 1989 abduction and killing of two Israeli soldiers, Avi Sasportas and Ilan Sa'adon, whose murders he celebrated by standing on one of the corpses.[5][16] In a video taped two weeks before his death, and broadcast on Al-Jazeera in early February, 2010, Mabhouh admitted his involvement, saying he had disguised himself as an Orthodox Jew.[17][18] In May 1989, a failed attempt was made to arrest him for his involvement in the murder of the two Israeli soldiers and he subsequently left the Gaza Strip; his home in Gaza was demolished by Israel in 1989 as retribution for the attack.[19]
According to a report in The Palestine Chronicle, al-Mabhouh had survived two assassination attempts; the first was a car bombing; the second took place in Beirut in 2009 and involved the use of poison which rendered him unconscious for 30 hours.[20]
Al-Mabhouh was believed by Israel to have been involved in smuggling weapons and explosives into Gaza.[1] He spent most of 2003 in an Egyptian jail.[21] He had been arrested and released several times by Israel. At the time of his death, Mahmoud al-Mabhouh was wanted by the Israeli, Egyptian and Jordanian governments,[21] and living in Syria.[22]
In recent years, Mabhouh is alleged to have played a key role in forging secret connections between the Hamas government in Gaza and the Al-Quds Force of the Revolutionary Guards in Iran.[7



No offense...and without taking any sides in your obvious war with Israel, I have to ask...WHO wouldn't want this guy dead? He was a terrorist who brought rockets in Gaza that were used to kill women and children and innocent civilians. Are you saying you support his actions?

Not that any of this matters because it doesn't. You are trying to take a 60 year old beef between the Israel and the Muslim Brotherhood, Syria, Jordan, Sudan, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and the Arab Liberation Army, and throw it all in our faces and frankly we don't care.

This is a business board for people in the business of making money. This isn't a geo-political watering hole for whiners.

Payoneer is a good company. They provide pre-paid MasterCards that can be used around the world and loaded from anywhere. That's what they do. Any other bullshit is just warm waste.

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Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 18004975)
How do we know that by doing business with you, you aren't using the money you make to fund terrorism?

Read below. He's not the CEO anymore and hasn't been since October of last year.

There has been ABSOLUTELY no connection made between those IDs and Payoneer. You are just fishing here trying to smear Payoneer and Yuval's good names and we can all see right through it.

How do we know you don't support terrorism yourself?

No connection made? I made the connection above. Israeli terrorists used Payoneer cards to fund their terrorist attack.

That is the connection. Sorry you can't come to terms with their being an actual connection and your entire argument being flawed right from the get go.

Would you trust someone that just put money into a murderers hand to take care of your most private information and not misuse it? Not me!

I don't have facts these people did anything?

So I can just assume that 9/11 never happened because I have never seen the buildings, right? I'm just repeating what the US government told me, right?

Last of all the guy did nothing wrong, he was a militant and was responsible for buying weapons for Hamas, a politically elected party that runs their small strip of land democratically. Do you think Obama, Clinton, Carter and all the other presidents are alive because they oversaw the murder of children and women?

Payoneer was run by a guy who had close connections to Israeli meddling and all of a sudden forged documents appear in their hands and they have Payoneer cards to fund their dirty work. Thinking Payoneer had nothing to do with it is a joke at best.

You don't know I don't support terrorism myself but was a formerly part of a terrorist organization? No. But Payoneer's (ex?) ceo definitely did, admittedly so. Making that connection isn't too hard.

The reason I'm saying something about this '60 year old beef' is because just like you love sucking Payoneer cock, I don't want any company that funds/helps terrorists to succeed in this world.

LatinCams 04-06-2011 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 18032751)
Hi everyone,

May I ask you what partners you receive payments through Payoneer with (or did?) :-)

AWE
FriendFinder
Streamate
Video Secrets
Gamma Entertainment
WebcamClub
MyFreeCams
ImLive
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Naughty-Pages 04-06-2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 18032751)
Hi everyone,

May I ask you what partners you receive payments through Payoneer with (or did?) :-)

I promote over 200 programs (not including a couple hundred ccbill programs).

I haven't had time to change over every program since switching them all from epassporte to check (only maybe 15-20% so far) but the only program I am using with payoneer as a payout is AWEmpire because they do not offer Paxum.. (Everything else so far was switched to Paxum if it was offered)..

I'm actually thinking of switching AWEmpire back to check because of the payoneer fees and just keeping the account as a last resort option for P2P transactions in the event someone can only pay me via payoneer..

John. 04-06-2011 06:07 PM

Welcome Talia

bigluv 04-07-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bigluv (Post 18037192)
Talia: Please post a PLAIN ENGLISH explanation of how your fees work and when and where they are applied. Currently the fees page on your website (and has for a long time) just gives an error. An example, from load to withdrawal would do wonders for this conversation.

Paxum on the other hand gives you an up front declaration of their fees and its not hidden behind having to sign up, either. For reference: https://www.paxum.com/payment/fees.p...views/fees.xsl

Well, I guess it's obvious Payoneer doesn't want to be compared to Paxum because at the end of the day their clients end up paying more.

Thats what my experience has been anyways.

bolsex 04-08-2011 07:05 AM

no more replies from Payoneer Support here?

CaptainHowdy 04-08-2011 07:27 AM

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Sid70 04-08-2011 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 18032751)
Hi everyone,

May I ask you what partners you receive payments through Payoneer with (or did?) :-)

I just need LOAD.PAYONEER.COM working 100% !!! I dont need any partner's money!

Chosen 04-08-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 18041906)
I just need LOAD.PAYONEER.COM working 100% !!! I dont need any partner's money!

It's a joke, right? :1orglaugh

bigluv 04-08-2011 08:56 AM

Well I guess we know how 'committed' payoneer is to the adult market.

And their internal 'pricing and fees' page is still broken.

drriley 04-09-2011 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 17986695)
Hi guys,

I wanted to quickly introduce myself (I of course asked for permission from the admins). I am Talia, the new Director of Community at Payoneer. I've spent the last few days going over old posts (I've commented on a couple) to get an idea of how things work here.
<SNIP>

As Payoneer has not been resonding to my customer service request regarding my account, which I can no longer access, and the thousands of dollars in funds that you are holding, I have cc'd you a copy of my LATEST email to your company. Perhaps someone will stop playing email tag, and resolve the situation.

cam_girls 04-09-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 17986741)
@Deputy Chief Command: Challenge accepted. :-) I don't think we suck at all.

Not even a bit? After hours? Never? :winkwink:

I'll send you up to $100,000 per week from Streamate if you mail me a credit card first in the name "IVOR KOSOWITZ". Thanks! :2 cents:

Talia_Payoneer 04-10-2011 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by drriley (Post 18044651)
As Payoneer has not been resonding to my customer service request regarding my account, which I can no longer access, and the thousands of dollars in funds that you are holding, I have cc'd you a copy of my LATEST email to your company. Perhaps someone will stop playing email tag, and resolve the situation.

Hi DRiley,

I am REALLY sorry about the problem you've had. I already answered your email, but I have escalated this to our manager and am literally breathing down their neck to get this resolved.

In the future, speaking to everyone, if you ever have a problem, please email me directly at [email protected] with your ticket ID (it's just easier if you already have a ticket open, but you can email me the moment you've opened the ticket) and I will escalate the case.

I am online during the weekend, too, so I don't ignore email at all, I promise.

ContentPimp 04-10-2011 02:58 AM

Payoneer sucks and is uncompetitive here's why:

-3% surcharge on FOREX (ie if we take out cash from our USD account in EUROPE 3% extra is billed on top of actual rate)
-$5 instant loading fee to put funds on mastercard
-No peer to peer transfers

{Psycho} 04-10-2011 06:29 AM

Hey do u have icq ?? or phone where i can reach u at

I have some problems ... need to talk

Also why are ur rates so rocking high compares to others when money withdrawn via ATM

Talia_Payoneer 04-10-2011 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by {Psycho} (Post 18045803)
Hey do u have icq ?? or phone where i can reach u at

I have some problems ... need to talk

Also why are ur rates so rocking high compares to others when money withdrawn via ATM

You can contact me at [email protected] and send me your phone number and I will call you tomorrow, if that's OK with you (also, let me know what time zone you're in).

bigluv 04-11-2011 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 18045959)
You can contact me at [email protected] and send me your phone number and I will call you tomorrow, if that's OK with you (also, let me know what time zone you're in).

Your "pricing and fees" page is still broken. Even if you don't like what I have to say about your service, you should probably show some professionalism and get it fixed.
It couldn't be that you don't actually want your customers to be able to transparently see what they are going to be charged, could it?

thanks for your kind attention to this

EDIT: tinafaye brings up a good question. So how much do you guys add on to FOREX conversions?

Talia_Payoneer 04-12-2011 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bigluv (Post 18047755)
Your "pricing and fees" page is still broken. Even if you don't like what I have to say about your service, you should probably show some professionalism and get it fixed.
It couldn't be that you don't actually want your customers to be able to transparently see what they are going to be charged, could it?

thanks for your kind attention to this

EDIT: tinafaye brings up a good question. So how much do you guys add on to FOREX conversions?

About the pricing and fees page, where do you see it's broken? Each account has the pricing that relates to their partners - is this on a partner site or on our site under My Account, and if so, which partner?

We aren't hiding fees, and if the page was down, I didn't see, but I will definitely let our R&D people know once I know what page you are talking about. We have been in business for 6 years and we have a proven track record, we aren't looking to screw anyone over.

Regarding the Forex fees, we do not tack on anything. The FX rates are set by MasterCard every day - you can see the list here: https://www.mastercard.com/global/cu...ion/index.html We have an ATM fee, but so do the other companies (plural, I'm not talking about one in particular). This fee isn't a percentage, it's a flat fee. We don't make any extra money from converting your money from USD to your local currency. I know this personally, but I even double-checked this manually and through our management, and we have no reason to lie - that would be bad business.

RaiderCash_Dominik 04-12-2011 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 18049733)
We don't make any extra money from converting your money from USD to your local currency. I know this personally, but I even double-checked this manually and through our management, and we have no reason to lie - that would be bad business.

How about making money of converting US Dollar to US Dollar with your so called cross-border fee?
How does the company that uses same bank as you do does not have it and you DO ???

Will you add that fee on ACH when you have it?

Talia_Payoneer 04-12-2011 09:04 AM

Hi RaiderCash,

I don't have a different answer than before, because the answer is exactly what it was: The cross border fee is not a fee that we invented, it's a MasterCard fee. We don't even keep a percentage of that fee - every cent goes to MasterCard. It's hard for me to believe that another company that uses Mastercard wouldn't pay that fee because they're get into trouble with MC. The only other way I see it is that it's somehow embedded in a different fee like the conversion rate. I don't work at the other companies so I can't speak for them. But like I've said before, if you Google cross-border fee you will see that it is on MasterCard's own website.

We already have ACH in the US and we do not have a cross border fee there for the simple reason that it's not MasterCard but bank transfers. We will not have cross border fees on any ACH type program.

bigluv 04-12-2011 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 18049733)
About the pricing and fees page, where do you see it's broken? Each account has the pricing that relates to their partners - is this on a partner site or on our site under My Account, and if so, which partner?

We aren't hiding fees, and if the page was down, I didn't see, but I will definitely let our R&D people know once I know what page you are talking about. We have been in business for 6 years and we have a proven track record, we aren't looking to screw anyone over.

Under my account it gives me your "OOOOOooops! This page cannot be found" error page. My account was created with serious cash.

Your fees are different according to who I receive money from? And/or who I sign up with?

In my account I have a 'private load fee' of ~$10 on ~$300 I received from someone else. What is that about?

thanks for checking on the page

I think it would go really far if you could run over the fees that you do charge, say within the US and outside of the US, because as you can see there is a lot of confusion.

thanks

Talia_Payoneer 04-12-2011 01:24 PM

Hi BigLuv,

I would really appreciate it if you would PM me or email me your account email address so that I can look into this and see what the problem is. I haven't heard of this problem (which doesn't mean they don't know). Also which partner you use, of course, since it may be with the specific partner.

The reason our fees are different per partner aren't so that we make your life harder. It would probably be easiest for us to have a flat fee structure across the board. Our service isn't offered directly to the users, but to the company. When we talk to a partner, we make a fee structure that suits that company's needs and the needs of their users. This is why fees can generally be different between partners. It's not that we make you pay a fee with one partner but not another - some partners want to pay certain fees instead of their users.

The process of signing on a new partner is a long process where we literally custom-make a pricing plan for them. Each partner knows their users better than we can. They know how their users earn their money and in what amounts and what would be best for them. In most cases, the deal made with each individual partner is, indeed, the best one that can be made.

In the same way, there will always be people who fall between the cracks, and the same goes for other companies. Take for example someone who gets one or two payments a month - these people would specifically earn a lot more money with a monthly program than an annual program, not to mention those who don't receive payments but have already paid for the card.

Again, it is REALLY important for me to stress that I am not slamming anyone else's company and procedure. On a personal level, I don't think there's only way to do things, and each company has their own decision process involved in how they structure their fees. In all cases I am sure that it is structured to fit the needs of their customers, or at least the widest group possible of their users.

I completely understand the confusion with these fees and that's why we post them under My Account (and any partner that you sign up for the card with), to minimize the confusion.

Talia_Payoneer 04-15-2011 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderCash_Dominik (Post 18028708)
I do not have any ATM machines that will let me get more than $300 at a time. I think its a usual limit for atm machines in the US.

I'm sorry I missed this before, but you know we have ACH in the States for some partners, right? And then you don't have a limit. I don't know what partner you're with, but it's worth checking if they offer it as an option (we offer ACH for our American users to all partners, some choose to offer it, others don't).

moeloubani 04-15-2011 09:34 AM

Just in case you missed this up above:

Is Payoneer still giving cards out to terrorists with fake ids to use to carry out terrorist attacks? What investigations happened internally when you guys found out you played a vital role in a terrorist attack?

fatfoo 04-15-2011 09:36 AM

Welcome. Talia, the new Director of Community at Payoneer. Have a good day.

B.Barnato 04-15-2011 03:25 PM

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Talia_Payoneer 05-07-2011 12:22 AM

Hey y'all, just wanted you to know that we have P2P enabled now for all of our adult partners - and it's free until July 31. Head over this way for more details: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1021348

BY the way, just so y'all know, this is a direct result of you guys requesting it.

RaiderCash_Dominik 05-07-2011 12:35 AM

When will you have ACH withdraw option?

Talia_Payoneer 05-08-2011 12:10 AM

Hi RaiderCash,

We've had ACH withdrawal available in the US for a long time (longer than I've been in the company). As for international, we have already started, but it's rolling out on a country by country (and partner) basis. We are planning on opening it up to everyone (as long as the partner doesn't object) within the next few months.

TechCrunch wrote about it a few weeks ago, too: http://techcrunch.com/2011/04/20/payoneer/

Oracle Porn 07-06-2011 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 17999857)
.... and no Yuval Tal is no longer their CEO....

today's biggest financial newspaper reads the following: "Payoneer is managed by Yuval Tal"

http://translate.google.com/translat...3D10006444 67

Talia_Payoneer 07-07-2011 12:44 AM

Yuval Tal is our president, yes, but not our CEO. This isn't something we are hiding. He is brilliant and has founded and been CEO of many multi-million dollar financial companies, which is why Payoneer is doing so well - his experience and insights are incredible.

Talia_Payoneer 07-07-2011 05:23 AM

By the way, we started a new referral program, you can read about it here: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=18265973

Oracle Porn 07-07-2011 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 18265673)
Yuval Tal is our president, yes, but not our CEO.

Yet you decided to not mention it a few months ago when people asked if he's the CEO, it doesn't really matter the title that he has, maybe it's not lying, but it's defiantly not telling the truth either.

Talia_Payoneer 07-07-2011 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 18266016)
Yet you decided to not mention it a few months ago when people asked if he's the CEO, it doesn't really matter the title that he has, maybe it's not lying, but it's defiantly not telling the truth either.

I honestly wasn't trying to hide anything. We have a different CEO. The CEO is, for all intents and purposes, the head of the company. Yuval Tal founded the company, so clearly he has a lot of decision-making abilities in the company.

Regardless, his experience, knowledge, and expertise only make the company stronger and more trustworthy, not less.


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