US sure has a lot of bases in other countries.

This is not the first time you are confused Michael - Is it just an issue for you or a common trait for Republicans?

PS. LOVE YOU! ;-)

because US oil companies have interests there? the the white house of their puppet? not rocket science.

Drilling, anywhere in the World produces jobs for Americans, no mater who is doing it or where it's being done. We help at every level, they use our technology, our supplies to build it, and Americans helping build it, maintain it, etc... while we ship it around the world when they can't, we refine it locally almost always, we resell it even back to the Countries that drilled it, sometimes they can't refine types of gas so we buy it super cheap.

Job ratio wise, a platform has what, 15 people on it? Even opening a few 1000 of them, and even if everyone hired was American (which is never the case), we still would not put a dent in job numbers.

And even at our peak production to our lowest, we didn't open more refineries and our shipping didn't increase, so added drilling does not equal more jobs. It would take the entire world to need a shit ton more oil, like double... for it to impact jobs.

Hell... even if we opened 10,000 inside the Country, you couldn't get 99% of the Americans to even apply for such a hellish job, let alone have the skill for it. Those corps would have no choice but to bring in foreign workers - just like they do already.

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LOL!! Love you too Oystein!


(btw, gave up completely on the republicans over the last couple of years. I'm a Constitutional Libertarian and I think both parties are full of total crap and need to go. :2 cents:)



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A lot of republicans turned into self-haters and reidentified themselves during the last 2 years of GWB. A rose (or the oppisite equivelant) by any other name...

That's kind of a silly post.

Actually, it was during the last couple of years under Obama... not Bush.
and if you don't know the difference between a Libertarian and a Republican, then you really need to learn more about schools of political thought, and less about dogmatic rhetoric. The fact is I have watched the Republicans grow further and further away from me for the last 20 odd years, and I haven't liked the Democrats, as a party, since 1977, when Carter took office.


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Until and unless there's a viable 3rd party tea party party(party!) there is a distinction without a difference. Given the choices, it's not like tea partiers are going to vote Dem rather than Rep. The choices are vote Rep., not vote, throw your vote away on a candidate that will never win or pray for a viable option. For now and for the foreseeable future the tea party simply serves as a far right arm of the republican party. That may work in some states or smaller elections, but has proven cancerous to Repubs in the senate with the exception of Rand Paul.

Actually, a deep water well at any given time will have 90 to 140 employees at any one time (2 shifts per day), so 180 to 280 for 2 2-week shifts that most all rigs run on. Now, that doesn't include all the 100's of others on shore skilled labor of which are required. A single deep water rig will easily account for 1200-1400 jobs each and that doesn't include pre-process, geologists, etc or post process refineries, etc...

So there could be a large number of jobs that come from allowing our companies to drill in their waters, at least for the people in Texas and Louisiana who have the skills. :winkwink:

50 US oil wells in Brazil's waters! :pimp

really? care to give me a source?

it's true that I dont keep the depth of the brazilian discovery uppermost in my mind, I thought it was 2 miles of water, then under very deep hard rock - one of the deepest discoveries ever made, and the largest deep discovery ever made. But, since it's not all that important a discovery, being so challenging to drill, I could have misremembered the facts.

let me check - ahhh, it's less than two miles of water.

I'd love to hear about a well drilled in 5 miles of ocean - there are only a few places that deep, all are subduction zones, it would be amazing to learn that oil deposits have been found in subduction zones.

ahhh, presumably you mean 5 miles total, not 5 miiles of water, and yes you are right. The deepest oil well ever drilled was under two miles of water and 7 miles of rock and salt, if I recall correctly.

I'm just repeating what all the articles devoted to the brazilian discovery were saying, multiple times, when the discovery first made the news. The drilling job will be one of the most complex ever attempted, in seas that are far more dangerous than the gulf.

But, who knows, maybe it will be an easy drill job, and obama is just grandstanding. Maybe we'll suddenly see tankers of brazilian oil on the market, and the price of oil will go back to $30 a barrel.

These aren't really supergiant fields tho - 6 to 8 billion barrels in one, maybe more in the other, possibly as much as 30 billion barrels in sites believed to be there but not yet test drilled.

I think he meant 5 miles total of water+rock which is close...:winkwink:

http://www.popsci.com/scitech/articl...epest-oil-well