Here ya go tardo:
http://www.who.int/hiv/topics/maleci.../en/index.html

say that in your head the next time you fuck some hottie who suprises you with bushells of armpit hair and leghair like a gorilla :1orglaugh we all have issues.

female circumcision often involves the removal of the outer labia, imagine how strange a vagina would look if you had only seen ones with no labia.. would look like someone threw some dirty sleeping bags down there

i'm not sure i trust that study... 60% decrease seems awfully high to be just noticing this now.. could be other factors at play , africa is teeming with hiv. would the study show the same numbers in usofa

in Malawi, the HIV rate is 13.2% among circumcised men, but only 9.5% among intact men. In Rwanda, the HIV rate is 3.5% among circumcised men, but only 2.1% among intact men.

these stats seem to show the exact opposite

I don't have an aversion to a woman who grows her pubic hair or armpit hair either. In fact, ex of mine decided to see how long she could grow her pubes before one of us couldn't stand her "naturalness" any more.

I won.

I had my son circumcised. I too am circumcised and grateful that i am.

granted im american and it is sort of normal to have it done here.

i dont think really is a right of wrong answer, just depends on what you are more comfortable with

That's an assertion on your part that is based solely on your own sensitivities and insecurities concerning the male anatomy.

It's not a perfect world. I realize that and accept that fact.

Might I add that I'm not the one advocating to cut a slice of skin off of the head of infant penises to appease someone's warped and mutilated idea of what a penis should look like.

no way, it is barbaric. rather i would teach them to wash it regularly like any other body part. would cut it only if doctor would say it is urgent due to some medial reason..

These threads always crack me up, it becomes clear right away who is circumcised and who isn't. It seems impossible to ever have any type of objective discussion because those that are uncut argue vehemently against circumcision and those that are cut say they love it and have no problem with it. I love these sensational terms that get thrown around like mutilate, barbaric, hack off, etc.... as well as these exaggerated analogies, come on give me a break.

I'm cut and I could care less either way. I've been present up close at a circumcision, and it didn't seem to hurt the baby and appeared to be no big deal. Having read a few dozen of these threads on gfy, it seems that uncircumcised guys get so ultra defensive at anyone who suggests they'd favor circumcision and I've never understood why. We can argue back and forth on the negligible health issues around each, but bottom line its just a choice by parents based on their preference.

I'd cover every inch of my kid with marker after birth NOT to circumsize it.

Absolutely not.

I'm with you on this one, I got the snip at 28 years old due to medical reasons, I was shit scared and did fuck loads of research and met with my GP a few times, he re-assured me of the benefits, it's not dangerous or that painful and stated many similar facts with less risk of STD infections etc which has been proven over and over.

statistics can be misleading. doctors make 0$ when you are uncut and big$$ when you get cut :) theres alot of room there for pushing an agenda. Do you think "jiffy lube" would make $$$ if they told people " you don't need an oil change "

for example sunscreen lotion, several studies say that it may prevent skin cancer overall , but those who use it regularly have an increase in the most dangerous forms of skin cancer.

it may be that getting cut prevents std's but it could also be that the std's you do get kill you because your body has no built in immunity. Not saying this is a fact , simply that statistics can be misleading..

Take the study of the op.. several studies in africa show 50%+ decrease in hiv after getting cut , yet the actual occurance rate is higher among cut men. How is that even possible ? because the study is almost pointless. Hard to extrapolate results from a flawed study.

i would trust these studies more if they pointed out such obvious mistakes and showed related data alongside .. for example. what is % of hiv among cut at birth men vs uncut in usa

comin straight from the horses mouth
tell us more :1orglaugh

I'd definitely circumcise my kid. Why wouldn't I want him to lose 40% of the nerves in his dick. Seems irresponsible to want him have pleasure later in life.

If you're actually worried that your kid is incapable of using a soap (or, shower gel, if he prefers) in the shower daily then I don't think you should actually have a fucking kid.

Might as well circumcise your daughter as well. Might make her lose a bit more than 40% of her nerves down there, but hey, it's an acceptable practice among morons.

Circumcision is NOT common in any civilized country except for the US. It's not just Eastern Europe that doesn't do it. It's, basically, not done at all in Europe. It's even been discussed in the EU to make male circumcision illegal.

it was back in the 80's , big hair and spandex , the doctor was watching full house on tv while chopping the weiner, slipped and cut the whole end off. DAMN YOU OLSON TWINS !!!

but seriously , you shouldn't have sex with horses sicko.

If you don't want to traumatize your children ... just don't conceive them.

So what I can get from this thread...Circumcision is a cultural standard in the US, and it is not standard in Europe. I'm not angry with those that have foreskin...What's with the anger towards those that are circumcised or have circumcised their children? I have never looked down there and said "WOW...I was mutilated!"

It is true...In the US, uncircumcised males sometimes face locker room torment for being different, and not all women in the US are open minded with uncut cocks. I am sure the same stigma would follow a cut male in a European country. It's nothing more than a cultural difference.

Congrats! You have more nerve endings! I have plenty of sensation in my cut wangler. For those worried about the trauma...I highly doubt any cut men remember being cut when they were babies, or those men wouldn't do it to their sons. Just agree to disagree, and move on.

oh and one other thing, when you get cut, it toughens up so now i last 2 minutes rather than 1 in the sack... win for me and her :)

It's changing to not being the standard in the US pretty fast actually and sometimes it can go bad and ruin the penis (why risk it?). I was reading a article on how lots of people are trying to get it sewn back on hate their parents for it.

I think it's just an old ritual, I staying natural.

As for the locker room, I am sure cut will be looked at as weird in ten years when he is there.

the male penis is pretty ugly to begin with why have a nasty piece of skin hang on it. a lot of females will not be with an uncut guy just because its even more digusting looking

A lot of woman like cockcheese or cockbrie ;)

See wiki http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcisie

De Amerikaanse gewoonte om jongetjes te laten besnijden wordt in verband gebracht met de tot in de 20e eeuw wijd verbreide hysterie rond masturbatie.

The American habbit to circumsie boys is because of the hysteria in America about masturbating.


Would you cut your penis if there is 1% change that it will fall of?

foreskin traps viruses and makes the dick dirty

sure if you chop off your hands they are clean but then you have no hands
if you chop off your balls they are clean but you have no balls

if you chop off your foreskin now your dick is clean (or easier to clean) and you still have your dick

not the same thing

doctors everywhere say that it helps with stds and infections, sure you can say that the doctors are saying that to make money doing circumcisions but wouldnt they rather let you get sick and make their money that way? smokey your logic is flawed.

circumcisions all the way. barbaric is a woman splitting apart and a tiny human emerging from her but hey, it happens.

how can chopping off a part of your body be understood as anything but barbaric? that is the entire point. i am not ok with children being mutilated. you are. so i am a better person than you no big deal.

That should be illegal.

Why? Because it makes no sense. Pull back the foreskin, and clean. Done.

Nothing gets dirty if you just clean your cock. I think somebody on GFY said(and this was a long time ago) that your dick gets shorter when you do that. I don't see the reason to shorten your dick. :winkwink:

You think "Skin is nasty" --- It's nastier when you cut the skin off.

What :helpme:eek7

Hopefully some uncut dudes here can confirm or deny this.

It is posted many places online that uncut dicks are more sensitive. With cut dicks, the only really sensitive part of the shaft is on the underside just below the head. The claim is that this area (or something similar to it) expands greatly when the foreskin is left intact.

http://i56.tinypic.com/rkasuh.jpg

my sons are circumcised

circumcision = zionism.

This seems right.

But this is same when a guy is hard, the skin you can only see when not hard. As for hard it's just gets a little bigger well in my case.

Also I think everything is more above the shaft because it's not exposed to regular feelings all day.

The more I think about the more crazy I think it is.

pros:

better feeling
no tragic child psychology
teaches how to be confident with our differences
no risk of not being able to have sex
more normal around the world and is becoming more normal in the US

cons:

requires more cleaning
some girls think it's gross

I am cut, but I decided not to go and my son's willy trimmed. I feel that the practice is just silly and not necessary. Just stay clean

No way.
Would you remove someones nails cause they tend to get dirty?
My sons willy is in tact and so is mine.

If he chooses to have it mutilated when he's an adult so be it.
It'll be his own choice. It's not our decision to make.

You're uncut, I expected you to say that. If you were circumcised you wouldn't be saying that, that's my point. As far as you being the better person, if one's viewpoint on circumcision is your grounds for determining who is "better", then you have much bigger issues than keeping your foreskin clean.

Who says it is gross, this woman adores uncut:

"never saw uncut until i met my current (european) bf.
before that, i would've thought i wouldn't like it...
but mhm, i adore his lovely uncut penis. is so lovely and fun to 'play' with"
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/ladies-...sized-not.html

18 babys of 100.000 babys die during this ancient primitive ritual.
If this happens in some third world country everyone would step up and protest.
What is next, cut away pussylips cause that is cleaner?

http://www.naturalfamilyonline.com/g...o-circumcision

This ancient tradition might be good for hygene, but we have soap and showers in our houses nowadays
and we learn to wash. People invented this ritual when human where still in trees like monkeys.

http://www.coopsjokes.com/toons5/gifs/circumsize.jpg