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pornguy 04-22-2011 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18077605)
Shock and Awe I.

You think that was full force of the US Millitary???

that was a fucking joke.

DateDoc 04-22-2011 06:10 AM

I thought Obama said we were not the World's police force!?!

Vendot 04-22-2011 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina (Post 18078443)
let's face it, it's a war on the whole Middle East so we can control the oil. Period.

If thats the case, then how long until the fight back and WWIII ?

rogueteens 04-22-2011 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18077592)
Vietnam was so politically controlled the Air Force wasn't allowed to take out missile sites shooting at their own planes. :2 cents:

.

strange that, the US govenment sanctioned the bombing of countries boardering Vietnam though.

dyna mo 04-22-2011 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 18078746)
strange that, the US govenment sanctioned the bombing of countries boardering Vietnam though.

when did the u.s. do that and what does *sanction* mean in this context?

Vendzilla 04-22-2011 08:13 AM

I don't get it, was the promise to pull troops from Iraq for peace or to supply troops for other wars? ( Police Actions )

directfiesta 04-22-2011 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18078416)
I don't understand how anyone with any comprehension skills could pin all of this on the US alone.

Where is the' pinning on the US alone `????

I stated that the USA, that said they would not get involved... , are now escalating the intervention.
I also point out the ridicule of the resolution of `no-fly zone ` ( never saw tanks fly ... ).

Now, by saying the USA, it does not mean `alone `...

If I say I am sleeping, it does not mean that I am sleeping alone.. it just means that I am sleeping.

The USA are escalating ... that is non arguable ...


We now have the confirmation that there is no difference between Bush and Obama ... :2 cents:

Rochard 04-22-2011 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 18077552)
....enforcing a no-fly zone....

Enforcing a no fly zone isn't the only goal in Libya. The primary goal is to protect the citizens of Libya from it's own government, which originally had started bombing it's own citizens. In order to do this we have established a no fly zone. The no fly zone includes taking out all and any air defenses, and under the guise of "protecting the citizens" we are now outright trying to stop Libyan forces from making any advance against the "rebels", which are in fact the citizens of Libya.

My big problem here is why are are in Libya at all. If forty thousand people in northern California suddenly rose up, took up arms, and removed local law enforcement in an attempt to create a new goverment... Wouldn't they be criminals, not "rebels"? The fine line of defining what a rebel is depends on what side your on.

We either need to go all in or nothing. This "limited military campaign" never works. Just say that we need to remove Qaddafi because he's killing his citizens, move in, and that's that already.

dyna mo 04-22-2011 08:29 AM

i was watching modern marvel B2 bomber episode and one of the military historians on there said something i liked a lot.

he said "we spend all this money on these cool weapons, so we are going to use them."

nico-t 04-22-2011 08:38 AM


Cherry7 04-22-2011 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18078433)
The us is controlled by corporations and bankers. I have an idea to fix it. Give the government more power. Give the government control over your whole life via single payer health care. That should do the trick! :Oh crap

The point is for the people to make the government serve the peoples interests by creating a Health Service free at the point of use, free education, social housing etc instead of government serving the interests of the rich - reducing taxes (for them) fighting wars to protect their interests.

The American Revolution was against despotic monarchies not against a government of the people for the people.

It is sad that the old regimes of europe serve their people better than the democratic US.

You have to take back your government back from the rich.

AAB 04-22-2011 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18078783)
Enforcing a no fly zone isn't the only goal in Libya. The primary goal is to protect the citizens of Libya.

Then protect them by killing the rebels. They are the ones killing the people of Libya. The government only fights off the terrorists who are killing their people. Majority of Libyan people don't want the terrorists to take over and support their government in their efforts to protect them.

femdomdestiny 04-22-2011 09:02 AM

Libya
 
Since my uncle worked there for many years and there are many students from Libya in my country, I can say only few things that people are "experiencing under" Gaddafi:

1. Free health insurance
2. Free education
3. Mortgage without interest
4. When you get married, you will get apartment or house from a state
5. During period of studying, students are getting average salary that they will have once they finish university (in their area of expertise)
6. If they don't find job after university, country will pay salary until they do so
7. Car can be bought on factory price
8. 25 percent of people is highly educated
9. Libya don't have debt! (zero)
10.If you are studiyng in foreign country, you will get monthly around 2k Euros, together with paid expenses for school.
11. Foreigners mostly do hard and dirty works and that's reason why there are so many of them there.
12. Dozen more small things that are making life easy.

Should I tell more..?

AAB 04-22-2011 11:11 AM

...you forgot one of the most important things - Gaddafi built the Nubian Sandstone Aquifer which provides his people with the most precious commodity in this part of the world - fresh drinking water. Water there is more valued than gasoline. People can live without gas, but not without water. The Great Man-Made River Project was built with zero assistance from foreign monetary funds or world bank so it was built without enslaving the people of Libya through foreign debt. That's why they (French, Americans, etc.) don't like him and need him replaced with someone who does as he's told.

IllTestYourGirls 04-22-2011 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18078783)
Enforcing a no fly zone isn't the only goal in Libya. The primary goal is to protect the citizens of Libya from it's own government, which originally had started bombing it's own citizens.

The reason why the US action is unconstitutional and Obama should be impeached.

uno 04-22-2011 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SDA CASH (Post 18077669)
So you think its ok to go kill people that did nothing to us recently?

We took care of what they did to us back in the day

Obama attacked them without our own Congress approving it!

So Fuck YOU!

I am all about Destroying an enemy when they provoke US first!

Congress did approve a no fly zone. :2 cents:

IllTestYourGirls 04-22-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno (Post 18079154)
Congress did approve a no fly zone. :2 cents:

With even shadier tactics than Bush. And both houses did not approve it.

Barry-xlovecam 04-22-2011 12:04 PM

OK. So it's really a no Qaddafi-Zone ... NP

seeandsee 04-22-2011 12:06 PM

and he got nobel for peace, buhhahahahahha

Robbie 04-22-2011 12:33 PM

Wow...I was listening to the news on the radio an hour ago in my car.

They announced that they are considering using our drone planes in Libya. A spokesman for the military said that yes, sometimes the drones make mistakes...but the people there have told him that mistakes by the drones are a price they are willing to pay to get rid of Gaddafi!

WTF????

So "the people" there think it's okay for us to "make mistakes" and kill innocent people occasionally as long it gets rid of him? What a crock of shit.

IllTestYourGirls 04-22-2011 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18079328)
Wow...I was listening to the news on the radio an hour ago in my car.

They announced that they are considering using our drone planes in Libya. A spokesman for the military said that yes, sometimes the drones make mistakes...but the people there have told him that mistakes by the drones are a price they are willing to pay to get rid of Gaddafi!

WTF????

So "the people" there think it's okay for us to "make mistakes" and kill innocent people occasionally as long it gets rid of him? What a crock of shit.

Shouldn't be to hard to "get rid of him" since his ass is always making public appearances. These people are just full of shit.

femdomdestiny 04-22-2011 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AAB (Post 18079106)
...you forgot one of the most important things - Gaddafi built the Nubian Sandstone Aquifer which provides his people with the most precious commodity in this part of the world - fresh drinking water. Water there is more valued than gasoline. People can live without gas, but not without water. The Great Man-Made River Project was built with zero assistance from foreign monetary funds or world bank so it was built without enslaving the people of Libya through foreign debt. That's why they (French, Americans, etc.) don't like him and need him replaced with someone who does as he's told.

No I didn't ,like I've mentioned, there are much more things. I was just stating those that people from US have a chance to understand. What they have there is real socialism and someone want to destroy that not to give example to others

marlboroack 04-22-2011 01:25 PM

lol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 18077566)
Pigshit...the U.S has not gone "full blast" since the Second World War.

You will know when USA is about to go full blast when you see a video on Youtube of Obama practice his shooting at a firing range underneath the Whitehouse upload and hit 4,0000 views in under a week.

uno 04-22-2011 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18079164)
With even shadier tactics than Bush. And both houses did not approve it.

Only according to Rand Paul because he voted for the no fly zone before he was against it.

/shrug.

PornoMonster 04-22-2011 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 18078867)
Since my uncle worked there for many years and there are many students from Libya in my country, I can say only few things that people are "experiencing under" Gaddafi:

1. Free health insurance
2. Free education
3. Mortgage without interest
4. When you get married, you will get apartment or house from a state
5. During period of studying, students are getting average salary that they will have once they finish university (in their area of expertise)
6. If they don't find job after university, country will pay salary until they do so
7. Car can be bought on factory price
8. 25 percent of people is highly educated
9. Libya don't have debt! (zero)
10.If you are studiyng in foreign country, you will get monthly around 2k Euros, together with paid expenses for school.
11. Foreigners mostly do hard and dirty works and that's reason why there are so many of them there.
12. Dozen more small things that are making life easy.

Should I tell more..?

Then what do the Rebels want??????
Why are they trying to out him?

L-Pink 04-22-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 18079747)
Then what do the Rebels want??????
Why are they trying to out him?

:2 cents: yea, sounds pretty good to me.

Jman 04-22-2011 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18079330)
Shouldn't be to hard to "get rid of him" since his ass is always making public appearances. These people are just full of shit.

Have the officially found and killed Osama yet, the guy that did the most horrific terrorist act???? :upsidedow

directfiesta 04-22-2011 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 18079747)
Then what do the Rebels want??????
Why are they trying to out him?

Two words :

- Power
- Religion

femdomdestiny 04-22-2011 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 18079747)
Then what do the Rebels want??????
Why are they trying to out him?

Stupidity, greed, money...in every system there are people that if supported, will make money while damaging others. Just take a look at Kosovo. At the end, rebels armed with tanks, airplanes and artilery? In case if Gaddafi go down, USA will need it's people to run now privatized and taken business. Those people will be millioners (and now are bitches with guns). I've seen that in my country, very similar scenario. Real Libyans don't have any serious reason not to support colonel , he gave them life that we won't ever be able to experience and see.

DWB 04-22-2011 02:53 PM

War!

Good God.

What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. Say it again!

Robbie 04-22-2011 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 18079768)
Two words :

- Power
- Religion

:2 cents: :2 cents:

brassmonkey 04-22-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18079782)
War!

Good God.

What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. Say it again!

well the government gets drained by people like dick cheney that owns the company that feeds and houses the troops


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