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gideongallery 05-05-2011 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 18112325)
Format is technology. A hard drive that spins is a technology. A solid state hard drive is a different technology. Me standing in my house is a location. Me standing in my neighbor's house is a location. I didn't need to develop anything new in order to stand in my neighbor's house. I simply had to walk over there. They are the same thing, just in two different places.

if that your definition then how is a film projector not a different technology then a dvd player

if your arguing that format was covered by the not allowed to use content monopoly to pick a technology

how would picking a film projector over a dvd player not be covered by the same arguement.

kane 05-05-2011 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18112406)
i love how you deliberately ignored the fact that there were TWO questions that congress must consider



so you can only answer the first


let look at that

first of the buzz meter on imdb tracking the jump in interest based on title for new movies this week

Thor 100%
Something Borrowed 129%
Jumping the Broom 321%
The Beaver 199%
Last Night 18%
Passion Play -7%


only jumping the broom had a significant increase and that because it had no press before (unlike thor which has had a steady stream for months) and the press about one of the actresses in the movie

your talking about 1/5 or 20% at best

that jump is not that impressive as the fact

http://torrentfreak.com/hobo-with-a-...top-10-110416/

hobo with a shot gun jumped 252 to 9 after appearing on the pirate bay 13th most downloaded .

natually and organically without a media push normal internet chatter created by sharing the content created the "buzz" your solely attributing to exclusivity.

the all medium method would benefit such movies because convenience sales (it easier to just pay $3 for the PPV then risk getting a virus from the pirate bay)


which means there are probably just as many movies that would benefit from the all access method as the limited access method.

but for the sake of arguement lets say that your side benefits twice as much (which is a stretch given how little jumping jumped up the list vs hobo)

your down 12.5% of the movies will see this benefit.



it doesn't matter the duration it matters the damage

lets ignore the 30 trillion a year lost to new technological advancement even though legally to ignore it you would have to prove that it doesn't exits (since even potential loss is damage based on the probability of the event happening).

let just talk about the damage you aknowledged

first of all there the extra revenue your defending ($3-4 on an $8 ticket)

that like 50% higher cost for EVERYONE in the public. So 100% of the public is paying twice as much money as they would if the "temporary monopoly" didn't exist

Then there are all those small towns with internet access but only one theater. When a movie doesn't show in that town those people are completely denied to participate in the free speach buzz you were talking about.

then they are people who are handicapped and therefore can't go to the theaters (like my dad)

lastly as you pointed some movies that suck would be able profit from good opening weekend before the news got out how crappy there movies were. Of cin exvhourse if you look at it from the publics point of view, that represents people getting ripped off by piece of crap movie because of the "temporary monopoly" your defending


so exchange for a small benefit that my only help 12.5% of the movies released (and probably way less since movie execs would stupidly do the same thing when the market has changed)

your damage is 100% price increase, censorship of free speach, completely denial to handicapped people, getting away with scamming people out of their money)

You do realize that 30 trillion dollars is about half of the GDP of the entire world. It doesn't matter how much bullshit you sling you won't convince me that not releasing movies in all formats on the day of their release is costing that much in technological development.

Otherwise, you win! you are correct. I give up! You wore me down! You get it your way!

I will spend now stop arguing in this thread and spend my time developing content that you and your socialist friends can tell me what to do with and how to make money off of.

gideongallery 05-05-2011 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 18112614)
You do realize that 30 trillion dollars is about half of the GDP of the entire world. It doesn't matter how much bullshit you sling you won't convince me that not releasing movies in all formats on the day of their release is costing that much in technological development.

hey like i said i ignored it just for you
the number came from assuming technology would accelerate just as fast as technology accererated when format shifting drop down the price of solid state disk

the technlogical improvements perculated thru every computer technlogy from cpu to memory to hard drives.

Try adding up all the computer electronics as a portion of GDP convert it to 1982 dollars and subtract the computerized industry of that time.

from cellphones to camera to even cars and farming equipment you would be hard pressed to find a single device that has not improved because format shifting comercialied and commodized solid state disk.



Quote:

Otherwise, you win! you are correct. I give up! You wore me down! You get it your way!

I will spend now stop arguing in this thread and spend my time developing content that you and your socialist friends can tell me what to do with and how to make money off of.

gideongallery 05-09-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 18112614)
Otherwise, you win! you are correct. I give up! You wore me down! You get it your way!

I will spend now stop arguing in this thread and spend my time developing content that you and your socialist friends can tell me what to do with and how to make money off of.

get it thru your head no one is forcing a content creater to do anything

all that i am talking about taking away the "right" to stop people from redistributing their content IF abuse their monopoly (supreme courts words) to pick one medium over another.

If a copyright holder wants to pick one medium over another they can do that

They just have to live with the consequences of that decision.


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