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halfpint 05-01-2011 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy (Post 18100204)
If the USA really lead this whole thing in Libya it would be over by now.
Ghadafi would certainly be dead and his whole family and if not that they would be holed up in a cave, or some self dug hole in the ground and utterly powerless.
If you went to MSNBC and saw the Photo of Ghadafi's house you would have noticed unexploded ordinance in his living room. Literally.

Face it...
Europe does not know how to fight wars, and they even go so far as to think there is honor in it while ascribing silly laws like you can't kill the leadership.

Bullshit.


LOL I dont think it would have been over even if it was lead by the US and that silly law is an international law. Not a European law.

Assassination of a head of state is illegal under international law, and forbidden by various US presidential orders.

theking 05-01-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18100215)
a senator was on the news this morning claiming ghadafi is NOT the legitimate ruler of libya, therefore, he can (and should) be targeted.

Senator Grahm?

moeloubani 05-01-2011 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18100215)
a senator was on the news this morning claiming ghadafi is NOT the legitimate ruler of libya, therefore, he can (and should) be targeted.

Yeah but if a Libyan government official came out and said during Bush's first term that Bush was not the legitimate ruler of the US does it mean he now has the right (and should) kill him?

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-01-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 18100220)
LOL I dont think it would have been over even if it was lead by the US and that silly law is an international law. Not a European law.

Assassination of a head of state is illegal under international law, and forbidden by various US presidential orders.


You are right. It's better to over throw the leadership and hand them over to the people they lead. Then we get cool Youtube Hanging video's, or eerie footage of a funny guy peeking out of a cave.

Whats the difference. The leadership still ends up dead.:thumbsup

halfpint 05-01-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy (Post 18100233)
You are right. It's better to over throw the leadership and hand them over to the people they lead. Then we get cool Youtube Hanging video's, or eerie footage of a funny guy peeking out of a cave.

Whats the difference. The leadership still ends up dead.:thumbsup

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

"Then we get cool Youtube Hanging video's, or eerie footage of a funny guy peeking out of a cave."

That made me LOL

pornmasta 05-01-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy (Post 18099384)
Unexploded ordinance inside the house...
Let me guess... French Bomb and Pilot.


NATO=IDIOTS


lol
8char

dyna mo 05-01-2011 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18100222)
Senator Grahm?

i believe so, one of the south carolina senators.
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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18100229)
Yeah but if a Libyan government official came out and said during Bush's first term that Bush was not the legitimate ruler of the US does it mean he now has the right (and should) kill him?

ftr, i am completely appalled by our need to kill people abroad.

regardless of ghadafi being a despot, the deaths of his grandchildren via a bomb is beyond acceptable to me and i have a real hard time saying that here.

moeloubani 05-01-2011 12:57 PM

It's easy to say things like theking who has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

'We should just go in and kill everyone then just leave, fuck rebuilding.'

So what you want to do is oppress people through your military, making sure they are never able to rebuild and get revenge by continuous bombing?

Do you know what would happen if you just went and bombed a country then left them in shambles? You better hope they NEVER come back because if they do eventually YOU will be their target. So what can you do? Just keep making sure they are weak by continuously bombing and oppressing them?

What the US needs to do is stop being such a greedy nation and understand that not having control of all resources is more a call to better innovation than a call to arms. At one point the US was the capital of all technology in the world. Now? The capital of all things bad. It's up to good Americans like Robbie that understand that killing isn't just what you do as a first or second resort. It is a last resort to be used only in defending yourself and never to push your ideals or beliefs on someone.

pornmasta 05-01-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 18100208)
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Would escalate military action
* UK
* France

Yes, there is an election in france next year and Sarkozy needs to look strong.
Unfortunately i think we don't have enough missiles (it is expensive).

I really think that Sarkozy is handling this problem the wrong way.

dyna mo 05-01-2011 01:00 PM

let's not forget, this is NOT a u.s. motivated event. obama did not even reveal that we would be a part of the coalition until after the initial nato attack.

u.s. is a part of the west in this.

halfpint 05-01-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 18100247)
Yes, there is an election in france next year and Sarkozy needs to look strong.
Unfortunately i think we don't have enough missiles (it is expensive).

I really think that Sarkozy is handling this problem the wrong way.

Yep I aggree both the UK and France are making one big clusterfuck out of this. Damm we cant even afford to equip our army properly ..whats left of it any way

moeloubani 05-01-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18100237)
Look at you crying like a bitch. You ignorant tool my ethnicity is Irish who came over during the civil war. WTS, you've mentioned more then a few times on this board you have Palestinian roots. You also mentioned child rapist for no apparent reason and then said children should not be in my custody. You can't stay focused or on topic because all you do is come into an American porn forum puking hate for Americans as you try to earn American dollars. You're own posts prove several times you can't stand Americans as you feed your own family from the dollars you make.

How does that feel you are earning money and feeding and supporting your family off the American money you're making? ..... you're such a hypocrite tool it's amazing.

Palestinian doesn't mean Muslim. Maybe if you weren't so ignorant you would know that but after all you are you.

Yes I did mention those words, and you mentioned child rapists as well and also said children should not be in my custody. See how when you take something out of context it can be used any way you want? Go read my words and quote them in context if you want to criticise them, don't be a bitch and pretend like you got me saying something that I didn't.

Why are you so mad that you turned the whole thing against me?

I have nothing against the average American and in fact I think Americans stand for a lot of things (or at least USED TO) that are exactly in line with what I believe. Freedom is what Americans are all about and I like that.

But your government and SOME Americans (like you) are fucking idiots. You for some reason or another think that because you're American everyone else is a subclass non-human. As you said yourself, you think that groups of people around the world are 'savages' just because you think you're better somehow as an American. How disgusting. How pitiful. How stupid.

Go get educated, drop your bullshit attitude and you might realize one day in your life what it is like to be happy.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-01-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18100249)
let's not forget, this is NOT a u.s. motivated event. obama did not even reveal that we would be a part of the coalition until after the initial nato attack.

u.s. is a part of the west in this.

You are right, Obama and the USA gave NATO a "3 day free trial" for the opener.
Ever since after it's been a laughing stock made worse by NATO Leadership.

theking 05-01-2011 01:13 PM

Personally I think that any time Muslims are killing Muslims we should not involve ourselves...because that is a good thing.

moeloubani 05-01-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18100291)
Still crying? What does child rapist or kids in my custody have to do with anything in this topic of thread? ...the answer is nothing. Also, you're American everyone else is a subclass non-human - when Muslims stone people to death, cut off each others limbs for simple theft, beat/kill women for not wearing a burka, and blow themselves up for Allah what do you expect? - savages

So let's go over this again so your racist rants could have some meaning. Is it a shame that Gaddafi's kids were blown up?.... yes, it was as it was a shame Gaddafi blew up innocent kids on the Pan Am flight 103. SO FUCK HIM because he'll get no empathy from me.

The US started a war for God, the Iraq war. Are you really that naive and uninformed or are you just joking?

People are killed every day in the US for simple theft. People are also beat up if they wear the wrong thing every day in the US. And Americans ROUTINELY kill in the name of God. Does that mean Americans are savages? NO.

So let's go over this again. You said I made a racist rant even though I made no such rant. You said you are okay with Gaddafi's kids being blown up, so you are also okay with American children being blown up by Iran because of the US blowing up an Iranian flight? You think that Muslims are all 'savages' just as slave traders thought that black people were 'savages'?

You suck at reading, your logic is horrible and your morals and ethics are those of a murdering racist.

I ask you this though: does it bug you that time and time again, you make a post thinking it was a great post then I come along and show you just how stupid you are? Please answer my question, does it bother you just how much smarter than you I am? Don't you hate being proven wrong time and time again and your true identity exposed as a racist, murderous and bigoted fool while I come across as the humanitarian decrying murder? Does that bug you that someone can have everything figured out like I do and then come across someone like you who thinks they are something only to find out they are easily crushed and made a little toy to play with? Are you in awe at how well spoken I am and how my logic is bullet proof?

femdomdestiny 05-01-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18100145)
You can't reason with people because their opinion is completely slanted. We've been through this before when Slobodan Milosevic was slaughtering thousands of Muslims back in the early 90's. The American public stepped up and told Clinton, hey this is none of our business so let's stay the fuck out. We complied with our UN duties and put peace keepers on the ground.

Was that good enough for the Euro's? ...no they called a meeting with Tony Blare who then flew to Washington and cried and begged congress for a larger US military roll. The US then sent in planes and bombed the fuck out of them and captured Milosevic and peace was restored.

Did the Muslim community thank us? ...That's a big NO. Did the UN/Europe match our military spending or pay us back because we stopped a genocide that was hurting their trade in Europe? ...That's a big NO.

So fuck'em all and let then cry because we Americans are fucked if we do, and fucked if we don't. WTS, it's actually comical to watch the Europeans try to resolve a problem with a military action.

But not nearly as funny as Gaddafi crying about his kids getting blown up as his little pussy bully ass wants to call a timeout. Typical Muslim behavior.

As usually, you are talking about things happening hundreds of miles from your home. No , Slobodan Milosevic wasn't killing muslims in 1990's,and also you should know that Gadaffi always supported him. And when we are talking about poor muslims, few videos will explain much more then words , for example : https://youtube.com/watch?v=03DQJ7skClg

dynastoned 05-01-2011 04:05 PM

our government just does what the fuck it wants these days. doesn't ask anyone just moves in and starts bombing. it's getting pretty fucking pathetic and nobody seems to give a fuck.

they use this UN/NATO bullshit as a cover and it gives them free reign to do whatever they like.

CDSmith 05-01-2011 04:22 PM

I'll say this much: If you pull the kind of shit that Gadhafi has pulled in the last 40 years, give the orders he's given to have his own people and others killed, directed his troops to open fire on unarmed protestors, opressed his own people, supported terrosm, etc etc, then I'd say you probably have zero right to complain, bitch, or otherwise cry foul when the world hits back and a few of your loved ones around you get shmushed.

He's got no one else to blame but himself here. Had he been a benevelant, even-handed leader, he wouldn't be in the predicament he's in and his family members would still be alive.

Sorry to those who disagree, but zero sympathy here.

Robbie 05-01-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 18100600)
If you pull the kind of shit that Gadhafi has pulled in the last 40 years, give the orders he's given to have his own people and others killed, directed his troops to open fire on unarmed protestors, opressed his own people, supported terrosm, etc etc, then I'd say you probably have zero right to complain, bitch, or otherwise cry foul when the world hits back and a few of your loved ones around you get shmushed..

Damn...you just stated what our own govt. here in the United States has done at one time or another over the last 40 years too.

I guess we need NATO to come bomb us...

moeloubani 05-01-2011 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18100664)
First of all shut the fuck up because you're a idiot that when gets backed into a corner changes the subject like a bitch on her period in need of an attitude adjustment slap, but sadly you'd probably want that. Now focus and understand, like you Gaddafi is a piece of shit because he sponsored terrorism that killed innocent people and children. So, if the UN bombs his kids into oblivion and you expect me to feel bad about it? FUCK YOU. Because I personally couldn't careless if they slaughtered all those savages because that's what they are. :2 cents:

You now have permission to continue crying like a bitch. Have at it.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Somebody is annnnngryy!!!

Anyone who says it is okay to kill a child is a 'savage'.

Is it because I'm better than you and you can't do anything about it that you turn so hostile?

Read my posts and read yours and YOU tell me who sounds like they are crying.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Relax bro it's just a forum and you are getting soooooooooooooooooooo angry!

And you didn't answer my question man: does it bug you that time and time again, you make a post thinking it was a great post then I come along and show you just how stupid you are? Please answer my question, does it bother you just how much smarter than you I am? Don't you hate being proven wrong time and time again and your true identity exposed as a racist, murderous and bigoted fool while I come across as the humanitarian decrying murder? Does that bug you that someone can have everything figured out like I do and then come across someone like you who thinks they are something only to find out they are easily crushed and made a little toy to play with? Are you in awe at how well spoken I am and how my logic is bullet proof?

What's wrong man, your rage and anger just doesn't let you finish things??

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

moeloubani 05-01-2011 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18100864)
Damn you still crying? .. You completely avoid my questions as usual, so why take yours remotely serious? WTS, angry ... no not at all. You can't stay on topic and need to be spoken to like a coked-out stripper that needs to leave.

So let's try this again, but in a scenario you'd understand. If Hosni Mubarak decided he was not leaving Egypt and started to kill his own people and the UN came in and bombed his kids, would I be outraged? Yes, absolutely.

As mentioned earlier it's a true shame Gaddafi kids were bombed. Does that mean I have the same sympathy as I would for Mubarak's kids? - No, because their father/Grandfather supported killing of innocent people/kids more then a few times and showed no remorse. Matter of fact, Gaddafi kept killing until one of his kids was bombed the last time.

Meaning, the reason why those kids are dead is because their parents supported a terrorist ie., Gaddafi and didn't leave the country to protect them. Now, if their own parents won't protect their children why should I give a fuck?

Now, I understand your head-slapping sheep-fucking mentality can't wrap your mind around this, but if they were my kids it would go down like this. Dad, the UN is bombing the city and we know what happen last time when they blew up my sister Chandelier...it's been fun and I enjoyed the gallons of cologne, being able to double park anywhere, with a car the vast majority of the populace will never be able to afford but me and the kids are going to bounce.

Simple right? ....

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Still means you support the murder of children. If you can feel good about yourself knowing that then feel good about yourself knowing that.

Don't know what the fuck you're talking about cologne and affording your kids and parking?

What the fuck are you saying man? Just rambling again?? You never answered my question about how amazing I am and if it bugs you, why not?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Stop talking dude you come off as a loser that supports the murder of children. How much more of a low life can you be? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

moeloubani 05-01-2011 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18101008)
Ssshhhhh you're not that important..time for you to go mourn Osama's death.:winkwink:

Finally decided you can't win against me?

I'm amazing, just admit it!

The only one mourning Osama Bin Laden is the one that agrees with him - YOU.

YOU are the one that is all for killing children. YOU are the one that is okay with terrorism.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Doesn't it just get right into your bones how much better than you I am? It must suck to know that all this time you think you're hot shit and now you realize you're just shit?

I love being right and I love it when I can make a loser like you give up. Keep on supporting terrorism, loser.

Seth Manson 05-01-2011 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 18099588)
Did they get Osama? Ofcourse not he's just a figment..

What were you saying?

Seth Manson 05-01-2011 09:22 PM

I need some snacks for the Jesus chic and moeloucanadian show. This is some good shit.

pornmasta 05-01-2011 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18100274)
Personally I think that any time Muslims are killing Muslims we should not involve ourselves...because that is a good thing.

Well in fact the war continues because of us (gadaffy would won)
It's like we would make chaos in the arab nations.

helterskelter808 05-01-2011 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 18101247)
Well in fact the war continues because of us (gadaffy would won)

Gaddafi is actually pretty un-Islamic anyway, and his regime is far more Western-leaning than any replacement is likely to be. That is in fact one reason the 'rebels' (Islamic fundamentalists) hate him. He's had problems with Islamist terrorists for a long long time. Take this from 1995, for example, which has a lot of similarities with what's happening now:

Libya's secret war pits Islam against Gaddafi

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An underground war has broken out in Libya between Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's secular regime and Islamic militants, threatening the stability of his 26-year rule with a series of shoot-outs and Algeria-style assassinations of secret policemen.

The old Italian colonial port of Benghazi has become the scene of ambushes and night-time gunfights. Last week, Islamic activists in the city claimed to have shot dead Lieutenant Colonel Jum'ah Al- Faydi, of Libyan intelligence. A week earlier, gunmen ambushed the head of a special unit set up to combat the religious opposition.

moeloubani 05-01-2011 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18101233)
Jesus Christ you're an idiot.. I mean you're truly funny...Like a clown.

Thank you! It was easy to make a joke of you.

moeloubani 05-01-2011 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18100274)
Personally I think that any time Muslims are killing Muslims we should not involve ourselves...because that is a good thing.

I would say this is a pretty crazy thing to say but then I remembered death for you isn't the same as it is for other people since you already kind of 'died' one time when you were Pathfinder. So I don't know what to make of an insane loony like you! :1orglaugh

femdomdestiny 05-02-2011 02:36 AM

And your source is CNN? Factory of lies, including fake refuges, weapons of mass destruction and at the end, official media of one side in war. I can understand that someone don't have moral, but combination of that and lack of logic and brain is terrible. I would just ask myself is ti possible to have such strong opinion based in info from media about something happened on opposite side of the world, and I am 100% sure that you can see only one side (in case you even spend time , you don't understand language of other). Believe me, you simply don't have enough informations to understand. Because of that reason,I will never make conclusions about someone's situation and problems, and not involving into other problems would probably be smartest thing to do (Just million dead people in IraQ made much more harm then all "dictators" around the world together, during history). It's a long story, anyway, but what bother me most is that there are people still believing that all those wars are made in name of peace and someone's other rights. Why Just don't admit it, it is done to take other's property and control regions and that's all. Otherwise, why Gadaffi is only one attacked when you have people killed in Syria every single day with tanks on the streets ? There are many African countries where people are also killed much more brutally then in Libya where even kids are used as killers....oh yes, I know...they are not rich enough, so their human rights are calculated in other way.

CaptainHowdy 05-02-2011 06:14 AM

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alessergod 05-02-2011 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18099410)
nope theres no oil

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Frank21 05-02-2011 06:28 AM

Human rights is just an excuse to attack all sovereign countrys who are not slaves of the IMF.
Did you know that 3 days after the CIA cuop in Libya IMF set up a bank.
Libya had billions of dollars in oil money and gold instead of loans with 15% interest per year.
If you know this you can know wich the next countrys to be attacked are.


BTW did anyone ever tell you that you have huge tits?

czarina 05-02-2011 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18099373)
If you killed my son, and there was no law enforcement to apprehend the person(s) responsible (which is the case here), I would not stop trying to kill everyone responsible until I was dead or they were all dead. I can't imagine Gadhafi handling the situation differently. The man won't relent until he's dead.

same here. You mess with my son, you'll have it coming


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