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DVTimes 05-24-2011 10:56 AM

page 10 bump ...........................

Nicky 05-24-2011 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18163291)
Notice how Paul ignores my two suggestions - start a paysite review site

The amount of text he writes here on GFY daily would really come in handy on a paysite review site. ALso he can be brutaly honest and the surfers would love him just like he wants :)

no joke.

gideongallery 05-24-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18163155)
We only mail out from [email protected]. It's an ethical thing for us. Not using fake emails to get around people who have decided they no longer want our mail. We send porn pics out.

Will let you know by email soon, how we proceed. If it works, you have to take money from us. Another ethics thing.

Email me so I can tell you how we proceed.

he is talking about what mailing list software you use to manage your mailing

the email address you assign to the reply to settings is irrelevent to that question

DamianJ 05-24-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18163155)
We only mail out from [email protected]. It's an ethical thing for us.

Paul, bless you. In email there is something called a REPLY-TO and something called a DISPLAY NAME. The reply-to is your email address. In this case, [email protected]. I think this is slightly odd, as it is your content store, but whatevs. The display name is the name that appears in the email client.

Hope that helps you understand the basics. In my Educational Series posts on email I cover all this in 101. You should have a read.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18163155)
Will let you know by email soon, how we proceed. If it works, you have to take money from us. Another ethics thing.

That's the end of that then.

It's an ethics thing.

I will never, ever take money from you.

So you can have my creative work for free. Use it if you want, learn from this experience if you can, and hopefully you will send out less dreadful emails in the future. If your designer wants the AI files, let me know I will send them

Or don't.

It's no skin off my nose either way. I've done the work. I think the ideas were good and I know for a fact any one of them would get you more clicks than the one you sent out.

PS Don't just spam the same list the same email next week. It's insulting. Segment the non-opens and send them the same creative if you want, with a different subject. But please don't just send the same thing out again.

PPS If things are tight, I am willing to pay for your use of a proper email service for a month so you can see how much of a difference applying just a little thought to your emailing makes.

DamianJ 05-24-2011 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18163291)
DamianJ: Great ideas for emails!!

Well thank you.

That's what I just LOVE doing. Coming up with interesting ideas for email that get people to click.

The 24 one is my favourite I think, but the hourglass works too. I know the self-deprecating one would get the most attention, but he wouldn't have the balls to send that one. Takes himself too seriously.

Anyway, they are now copyright free ideas.

Anyone that likes any aspect of my work and ideas in this thread is free to use them in anyway they see fit.

The Porn Nerd 05-24-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18163756)
Well thank you.

That's what I just LOVE doing. Coming up with interesting ideas for email that get people to click.

The 24 one is my favourite I think, but the hourglass works too. I know the self-deprecating one would get the most attention, but he wouldn't have the balls to send that one. Takes himself too seriously.

Anyway, they are now copyright free ideas.

Anyone that likes any aspect of my work and ideas in this thread is free to use them in anyway they see fit.

That's top notch right there folks! Thanks DamianJ. :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 18163463)
The amount of text he writes here on GFY daily would really come in handy on a paysite review site. ALso he can be brutaly honest and the surfers would love him just like he wants :)

no joke.

I was being 100% serious with my advice. Okay, starting a "consulting company" in this day and age would be a little rough but perhaps not if Paul focused on "Ma and Pa" operations or start-ups. Maybe they are below his income standards. Who knows.

But a review site would be right up his alley. I am planning one myself for later this year (since these posts prove my honesty, heh) and I would employ Paul as a reviewer in a heartbeat. But again, with his problems with online porn and all things Peabody....LOL We'll see how it goes as we go along but regardless, Paul should absolutely do this.

Nicky 05-24-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18163813)
That's top notch right there folks! Thanks DamianJ. :)




I was being 100% serious with my advice. Okay, starting a "consulting company" in this day and age would be a little rough but perhaps not if Paul focused on "Ma and Pa" operations or start-ups. Maybe they are below his income standards. Who knows.

But a review site would be right up his alley. I am planning one myself for later this year (since these posts prove my honesty, heh) and I would employ Paul as a reviewer in a heartbeat. But again, with his problems with online porn and all things Peabody....LOL We'll see how it goes as we go along but regardless, Paul should absolutely do this.

Always wanted to start a review site but It's a damn lot of work and writing. Just buying the reviews from some writer is not the same thing for a review site as It has to have my opinion. For my blogs I can just buy 200 posts and start scheduling as I am more on the volume side than quality side there.

Cherry7 05-24-2011 03:01 PM

Paul Markham should write reviews, but they should only be printed in magazines.:2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 05-24-2011 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 18163832)
Always wanted to start a review site but It's a damn lot of work and writing. Just buying the reviews from some writer is not the same thing for a review site as It has to have my opinion. For my blogs I can just buy 200 posts and start scheduling as I am more on the volume side than quality side there.

I'm about to go the volume route via blogs, too, and will need blog writers. But for a review site I and a couple really good people (Paul?) will write them. Writing is my natural trade (can't you tell?) rather than being an Internationally Famous Pornstar. Haha!

biskoppen 05-24-2011 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18161836)
Seriously Robbie, as I offered before, I'll give you 10% of any increase you generate as long as its MILLIONS a month as you claim. For life.

You brag how you made 20k from your top programs as an affiliate.. Well, I'm offering you 200k or more (MILLIONS must mean 2m+) a month to show me how you are so superior than me... but you just ignore this offer, because, in the end of the day, you have no clue and are just afraid you might be wrong and look like a stupid idiot on GFY when you misserably fail.

And your excuse is that I can not "give" you anything since I have nothing to say... and my answer to that was I can prove it to you if you want...

20k a month is nothing.. lots of big players make that a day..

Robbie 05-24-2011 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 18164034)
20k a month is nothing.. lots of big players make that a day..

You didn't read my post. I said my top THREE programs (out of over 400 I promote) made 20 k a month (not anymore of course)

From 1996 to 2007 I was averaging right around 90 to 100 grand a month as an affiliate.

I KNOW how to sell pay sites. My cam and dating made good money but nothing as lucrative as selling memberships to paysites.

That's why I'm saying that Pornhub and all the other tube sites just do not "get it" when it comes to fully monetizing their sites.

They do the equivalent of when I used to sell spots on my "Nasty Nine" list on Ampland. In other words...pre-paid spots.
That was nice cash...at 6 grand a text spot each per month (54 k in my pocket just for that ONE little section on the main page)...but the bigger picture was selling paysite memberships.

I look at pornhubs individual video pages (and their main page) and it's like watching a child trying to figure out something...it's so fucked up. I could turn that kind of shit around and add to the monetization of the site by actually making GOOD sales to the paysites the video came from AND once that starts up...then Pornhub, Keez Movies, and all the other bullshit tubes that Manwin bought would stop being a pariah on our industry and start making everyone money.

At that point...all the hiding behind DMCA would be pointless because people will WANT their content up there instead of being pissed that it got stolen and is being used to sell dating, cams, and penis pills.

Manwin would actually be highly regarded. And the clown who fronts the company (fabian) would be treated like a king instead of taking an ass beating at a show.

AnimeFevers 05-24-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18163343)
page 10 bump ...........................

Haha!! your enjoying this.

plsureking 05-24-2011 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 18163832)
Always wanted to start a review site but It's a damn lot of work and writing. Just buying the reviews from some writer is not the same thing for a review site as It has to have my opinion. For my blogs I can just buy 200 posts and start scheduling as I am more on the volume side than quality side there.

you are way to late to jump into the review business. talk to the guys who own the top 10-20 review sites and ask how their traffic and sales are these days. there are so many review sites already - most are clones - that you will have a hard time gaining a following. and if you do succeed at that, your actual conversions will be so few that you would make more per hour working in a sweat shop.

an idea that could work is putting a reviews section in the member's area of your paysites. write personalized reviews of a smaller amount of sites that you recommend. your reviews will be read by members that trust you, and your conversion rate will be much higher.

member trades are the highest converting source of traffic in porn. members already have a history of buying porn and are usually looking for something new. merge the review concept with the member trade tactic and you will have a nice secondary income.

Nathan 05-24-2011 09:42 PM

Robbie.. somehow no one is giving me any ass beatings at shows :/

Neither do they give any of my employees any issues.

When I'm at the next vegas show, I'll look out for you and wait for that ass beating.. can't really expect more from you than that....

Your remarks are all useless. Why even be here and brag about the 90-100k as an affiliate?! You do not understand tubes, so why do you think you can monetize them better than the ones that understand them most? That's beyond me.... your "suggestions" you posted here make no sense, especially not in connection with what I told you already...

Robbie 05-24-2011 09:49 PM

Fabian I haven't said I was going to beat your ass. But there are plenty of people that want to. But you know that already.

I'm not one of them because I solved my problems with piracy.

As far as "understanding" tubes? Give me a break man.

It's a SCRIPT. And not understanding or wanting to understand how to focus in and get people to click a link to the paysite that the video came from is your problem.

I DO understand how to do that better than you, anybody on your staff, and anybody that you know.

I'm done with you now. It was fun reading your posts for a while. I hope that the real owners of Manwin read this (they probably won't) and get somebody like me (there are about a few, very few) in there to take over. It really could start something that could turn the industry around.

Meanwhile you just keep doing what you do...

Nathan 05-24-2011 10:04 PM

Robbie, no, that is not at all our problem. But that's the part you do not get...

Actually putting you into a group of "very few" people that are somehow masters at conversion and saying nobody I know is as good as you, that in itself, is hilarious. But that's how you are, gotta admire the persistence...

You do not understand tubes, that's just how it is. Your suggestions scream that fact. If you actually had something to show for yourself (and no, 100k a month as an affiliate might be good, but its clearly not top of the industry) I would invite you to Montreal to tell my people to their face that they are idiots and that I am just a frontman... But since all you do is brag and pretend you are the best thing since sliced bread, why bother?

If you actually had just an ounce of humbleness towards anything or anyone that does what you do, it would go a long way... but like you post, you are just an ass...

Robbie 05-24-2011 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18164623)
Robbie, no, that is not at all our problem. But that's the part you do not get...

Actually putting you into a group of "very few" people that are somehow masters at conversion and saying nobody I know is as good as you, that in itself, is hilarious. But that's how you are, gotta admire the persistence...

You do not understand tubes, that's just how it is. Your suggestions scream that fact. If you actually had something to show for yourself (and no, 100k a month as an affiliate might be good, but its clearly not top of the industry) I would invite you to Montreal to tell my people to their face that they are idiots and that I am just a frontman... But since all you do is brag and pretend you are the best thing since sliced bread, why bother?

If you actually had just an ounce of humbleness towards anything or anyone that does what you do, it would go a long way... but like you post, you are just an ass...

Really? You're preaching to me about being humble? You're preaching to ME about bragging? You're a guy who NEVER ran one successful site in your life! And if I had a nickel for every time you've BRAGGED about how "you" are responsible for Manwin's success (which was built BEFORE when it was still Mansef...before you were ever involved, and built on piracy) and another nickel for how many times you've bragged that nobody can possibly understand you or how gigantic "your" company is...I'd be even richer.

And I'll gladly tell your "people" they don't have a clue. Anybody with eyes can look at Pornhub and see what it is. There's nothing there that shows any skills. Just prepaid ads jammed on in a nice spammy way. Just give it a rest man.

I actually had considered flying to meet you and sitting down. But now? It would take a lot to get me to even consider doing anything with you.

plsureking 05-24-2011 10:29 PM

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...=porntube.com&

just sayin'... lol...

Nathan 05-24-2011 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18164637)
Really? You're preaching to me about being humble? You're preaching to ME about bragging? You're a guy who NEVER ran one successful site in your life! And if I had a nickel for every time you've BRAGGED about how "you" are responsible for Manwin's success (which was built BEFORE when it was still Mansef...before you were ever involved, and built on piracy) and another nickel for how many times you've bragged that nobody can possibly understand you or how gigantic "your" company is...I'd be even richer.

And I'll gladly tell your "people" they don't have a clue. Anybody with eyes can look at Pornhub and see what it is. There's nothing there that shows any skills. Just prepaid ads jammed on in a nice spammy way. Just give it a rest man.

I actually had considered flying to meet you and sitting down. But now? It would take a lot to get me to even consider doing anything with you.

Robbie, Manwin does more than 120% more in revenue and profits than Mansef ever did... How was everything built by Mansef?!

DamianJ 05-25-2011 01:20 AM

I just love it when Robbie pretends to have someone on ignore, then tries and fails badly to argue, then says THAT'S IT I'M DONE and then replies AGAIN 4 minutes later.

Discipline Robbie. Mullets need discipline.

Paul Markham 05-25-2011 02:35 AM

DVTimes started an 11 page thread. I guess the Rapture happened and we didn't notice it. :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18163291)
Notice how Paul ignores my two suggestions - start a paysite review site and start a consulting company. Org laugh.

BTW: No one has the "perfect" way of doing things, everyone has their own way that works for them.

DamianJ: Great ideas for emails!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 18163463)
The amount of text he writes here on GFY daily would really come in handy on a paysite review site. ALso he can be brutaly honest and the surfers would love him just like he wants :)

no joke.

I did start a review site. I became truly disgusted by the content that most were selling. Couldn't find enough sites I really liked to get enough money from it. Today there's no need to be brutally honest. The customers know online porn isn't good enough. Well 99.9% of them do. The problem with an honest review site is site owners wouldn't let you in, if they knew you were goig to write the blunt truth. Fabian did and must be applauded for his bravery, Robbie and Damian won't. Mrpeabody what about you, got any balls?

Started a paysite, in fact paysites. The content had to be from the content we had shot over the years. For reasons discussed I was not about to give up what we were doing and start shooting something exclusively for the paysites. would of meant giving up shooting in Czech IMO.

Consultancy, is an interesting thing.

We've got marketing men talking about tweaking or testing tours, buttons, emails and other small things. That's like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It might make 1-1,000 viewing content on a free site go to 1-1,000 or even 3-1,000. It won't make a huge difference. Because none of what they suggest is the root problem.

That's 999 people are looking at a sample or tour and moving on. The content didn't motivate them enough to stay longer.

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...tral-blue.com&

Interesting. It seems of the 1,000s who hit Misterpeabodyworld.com they only like what they see on average well enough to stay to see one page. My crap sites with my crap content and marketing seem to do so much better.

Does my content make more people sit up and take a longer look, does it interest people more. Are the amateur crap tours so badly designed and laid out, getting a better response the peabody's tours?

The fundamental problem this side of the porn industry has always had isn't traffic or marketing. It's surfers looking at what's on offer on not buying.

We chose the solution of tweaking the marketing and throwing more traffic at it. Did it change the fundamental problem? No the problem got worse. more people were looking and not buying per 1,000s.

Could I with my experience and knowledge change that problem as a consultant? Well as one of the few who see the real problem, I think I can do a better job then most.

The problem is getting people to realise traffic isn't the indication of a sites success. It's conversions that matter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18163813)
I was being 100% serious with my advice. Okay, starting a "consulting company" in this day and age would be a little rough but perhaps not if Paul focused on "Ma and Pa" operations or start-ups. Maybe they are below his income standards. Who knows.

So your operation wouldn't be able to afford me. LOL

It's not just paying for me, it's paying for the solutions. Can you afford it?

Manwin can and I could improve their revenue easily. Problem is getting them to see the woods for the trees.

Nicky 05-25-2011 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 18164486)
you are way to late to jump into the review business. talk to the guys who own the top 10-20 review sites and ask how their traffic and sales are these days. there are so many review sites already - most are clones - that you will have a hard time gaining a following. and if you do succeed at that, your actual conversions will be so few that you would make more per hour working in a sweat shop.

an idea that could work is putting a reviews section in the member's area of your paysites. write personalized reviews of a smaller amount of sites that you recommend. your reviews will be read by members that trust you, and your conversion rate will be much higher.

member trades are the highest converting source of traffic in porn. members already have a history of buying porn and are usually looking for something new. merge the review concept with the member trade tactic and you will have a nice secondary income.

Yep for sure. I know the review site train left many years ago unless you come up with something really innovating. I just pointed out I always wanted to do one :). Nice suggestions btw, thanks.

DVTimes 05-25-2011 03:34 AM

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Paul Markham 05-25-2011 09:53 AM

Actually MisterPeabody has a good point. I could be a consultant to sites to improve their revenue. The way I would do it is easy.

Look inside their members area at the product. Give constructive helpful advice how to improve that product. Train, guide or advise their shooters how to improve their techniques.

Nothing revolutionary, things I've learned over the years often by making the mistakes and improving my techniques as the years went by.

My content sold in the top paying markets. I had to learn what would sell and wouldn't. I see elementary mistake all over the place.

Yes my style is dated, doesn't mean my knowledge is. The same knowledge that worked years ago works today.

The problem as MisterPeabody points out is few could afford me or the solution.

It would need an investment in the product over time to get the results. You can't change the members area over night.

Cherry7 05-25-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18165671)
Actually MisterPeabody has a good point. I could be a consultant to sites to improve their revenue. The way I would do it is easy.

Look inside their members area at the product. Give constructive helpful advice how to improve that product. Train, guide or advise their shooters how to improve their techniques.

.

How will you do this when you have no training or knowledge? You told me that a person cannot change a lens on a DSLR. You think that to get good sound you put it on a stand. Lighting is just for exposure, you use amateur cameras, you do not edit you material in anyway. The sound and picture are not subject to any post production. You bring no creativity to your work. When confronted with the poor nature of your photography you brag how much money it has made. Which, if true one wonders what are you moaning about, you took a lot of poor quality pictures and made a lot of money.

Your wife really should sit you down and show you some Czech cinema, it is beautifully shot and erotic too


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ves-blonde.jpg
Closely Observed Trains

http://img.listal.com/image/835766/6...ins-poster.jpg


Then read some books....

Then you maybe a bit more modest

Anna_Miller 05-25-2011 12:27 PM

Wow! I stopped reading around page four..

Robbie 05-25-2011 12:31 PM

Hey Anna...when I login to 4 Real Cash I'm getting a blank page

The Porn Nerd 05-25-2011 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18164909)
DVTimes started an 11 page thread. I guess the Rapture happened and we didn't notice it. :1orglaugh





I did start a review site. I became truly disgusted by the content that most were selling. Couldn't find enough sites I really liked to get enough money from it. Today there's no need to be brutally honest. The customers know online porn isn't good enough. Well 99.9% of them do. The problem with an honest review site is site owners wouldn't let you in, if they knew you were goig to write the blunt truth. Fabian did and must be applauded for his bravery, Robbie and Damian won't. Mrpeabody what about you, got any balls?

Started a paysite, in fact paysites. The content had to be from the content we had shot over the years. For reasons discussed I was not about to give up what we were doing and start shooting something exclusively for the paysites. would of meant giving up shooting in Czech IMO.

Consultancy, is an interesting thing.

We've got marketing men talking about tweaking or testing tours, buttons, emails and other small things. That's like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It might make 1-1,000 viewing content on a free site go to 1-1,000 or even 3-1,000. It won't make a huge difference. Because none of what they suggest is the root problem.

That's 999 people are looking at a sample or tour and moving on. The content didn't motivate them enough to stay longer.

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...tral-blue.com&

Interesting. It seems of the 1,000s who hit Misterpeabodyworld.com they only like what they see on average well enough to stay to see one page. My crap sites with my crap content and marketing seem to do so much better.

Does my content make more people sit up and take a longer look, does it interest people more. Are the amateur crap tours so badly designed and laid out, getting a better response the peabody's tours?

The fundamental problem this side of the porn industry has always had isn't traffic or marketing. It's surfers looking at what's on offer on not buying.

We chose the solution of tweaking the marketing and throwing more traffic at it. Did it change the fundamental problem? No the problem got worse. more people were looking and not buying per 1,000s.

Could I with my experience and knowledge change that problem as a consultant? Well as one of the few who see the real problem, I think I can do a better job then most.

The problem is getting people to realise traffic isn't the indication of a sites success. It's conversions that matter.



So your operation wouldn't be able to afford me. LOL

It's not just paying for me, it's paying for the solutions. Can you afford it?

Manwin can and I could improve their revenue easily. Problem is getting them to see the woods for the trees.

Hi Paul, a few points, just for clarification and "perspective" (no snarkiness, promise):

www.misterpeabodyworld.com is simply my "Network landing page", a central place for surfers and members to go to make it feel more like a network. I don't have one Members Area but rather each individual site has its' own unique Mem Area. So that Mister Peabody World page acts mostly as a place for (mostly) surfers to go to see the latest updates. My stats show people stay "on site" for less than 30 seconds - they see an update then click to that tour. BUT I get a fuckload of directed sales from that site. (I don't send direct traffic there.)

I've re-designed it to focus more on this aspect of the site (people checking it out for updates) and it goes live tomorrow:

http://misterpeabodyworld.com/index1.php

Now, people have to scroll down an I-Frame to see the updates; this new design they're right on top. Click - sale!

As for review sites: As with everything I do I am NOT interested (because I am realistic here folks) in trying to become Manwin. Or even Robbie or TheDoc or...well, you get the point. I am one happy motherfucker, making as much as I do. I am not married, have no children, work from home, outsource the help I need and am getting rich (MY definition of "rich" - i.e., freedom) so I am extremely happy.

Therefore my idea for a Review Site is simply this: NOT to review a thousand fucking shitty sites. NOT to review the "BROs" out there (they certainly don't need me). No, I want to target GREAT WEBSITES to review. If we had only fifty reviews on there, but every single one was a goddamned WINNER, then that's all we would need. Maybe a hundred. And I would pay for Memberships for the reviewers, no begging from the programs (who, you are right, would never let me inside). A hundred memberships is what? 3k max? part of the start-up cost.

Also, I intend to put that review site on my network (tho none of my own sites would be reviewed). My Goal here is to make some extra coin for Mister P, NOT be the "next Rabbit's Reviews".

So paying for Paul: since you make $0 posting all day on GFY for the same (or less) amount of work for writing a review you wouldn't get paid. You would get a percentage of sales, for one, and the credibility of having your opinions properly expressed and in a forum where it could help people (surfers). This should be reward enough, if you are as passionate about helping consumers as you come off here on GFY.

Plus, a smart cookie would use those published reviews to get more gigs, more credibility and more. Plus, as you already know, writing is its' own reward. (Plus - more chapters for your ebook?)

As you can tell, I have my own way of spinning things and it works for the 'Mister Peabody brand'. :)

Paul Markham 05-25-2011 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18166074)
How will you do this when you have no training or knowledge? You told me that a person cannot change a lens on a DSLR. You think that to get good sound you put it on a stand. Lighting is just for exposure, you use amateur cameras, you do not edit you material in anyway. The sound and picture are not subject to any post production. You bring no creativity to your work. When confronted with the poor nature of your photography you brag how much money it has made. Which, if true one wonders what are you moaning about, you took a lot of poor quality pictures and made a lot of money.

OK idiot, you asked for it.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/ce1.jpg

What the fuck is that look on her face? It's about as erotic as my big toe. The "photography techniques" sucks. Looks like an amateur who hasn't progressed very far. also been done a 1,000 times.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/ce2.jpg

Grainy and WTF is the appendix scar? Again nothing special.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/ce3.jpg

Shit framing, you left the moles and spots on her body, where the post production? Also buy a razor and shaving foam for girls. Before you shoot a crap picture of their stubbly cracks. Also looks a bit on the yellow side. More post production work needed.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/ce4.jpg

Crap framing, you chopped off the head of the girl looking at the camera. Out of focus, location shows a crap home, WTF is the white lead from the light meant to signify? Lighting is shit. Pose is a girl faking an orgasm. Very innovative. :1orglaugh

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/ce5.jpg

Again crap framing and you have no idea how to pose a girl to show her curves. The front leg should be to the front, the back arched more to push up the rear and take the shit look off her face. It's a very bad picture.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/ce6.jpg

Again crap framing. Don't chop off the toes. Either crop the feet out or get them in the picture. Posing is amateur. Looks grainy. Again she needs to have a full bush or no hair, stubble isn't erotic. Also not a very attractive girl.

Your stills work is worse than amateur. Amateurs learn and grow, they love what they do and strive to improve. Some of the best pictures I've seen were taken by amateurs.

My work.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/0286.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/asking.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/glamour2.jpg

You're not in the same league as me. You're in the amateurs game, I play in the professionals game.

If you want I'll show you some more of my good work.

These are better shots than any of yours. Framing, looks, exposure, focus sharp on his face and soft on the rest to give the emphasis to his sad look, posing all right. The picture tells a story.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/rajah0.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/rajah1.jpg

I'm a sad puppy stuck on the stairs/in the bath. :1orglaugh Or. How many more pictures do I have to pose for?

Robbie 05-25-2011 04:36 PM

Heh-heh-heh

Paul just laid the smack down!

I gotta say I like your style when it comes to getting nasty! The pics of the pups put it over the top! :pimp

The Porn Nerd 05-25-2011 07:50 PM

I like puppies. :)

Paul Markham 05-26-2011 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18166876)
Heh-heh-heh

Paul just laid the smack down!

I gotta say I like your style when it comes to getting nasty! The pics of the pups put it over the top! :pimp

I got sick to death of him having a go at me content. He's clueless. The proof is in he puts these pictures on his tour. They're terrible and he doesn't see it. Look at my banner, there's more eroticism in that than any of his pictures.

The pics of Rajah, were to illustrate the point of what he's trying to achieve. A picture should invoke an emotion. Be it a porn picture or a picture of a cute puppy. My pics of Rajah show just that. A sad little puppy all wet and forlorn getting a bath and trying to get out or stuck on the stairs having to pose for Daddy. Both invoke a feeling of AHHHHH!

Porn again is meant to invoke an emotion or a notion. The first one of the girls kissing shows passion about to be released, the second one is a girl showing your her friends pussy and maybe asking you to look or join in, the third, a girl teasing you with the idea of her giving you a BJ.

His pictures are often just meat laid out on a slab. And he's telling me I can't shoot erotic. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

theking 05-26-2011 02:34 AM

Porn is porn...is porn...and 99.9% of it is boring with much of it being disgusting...in my opinion...(including Markam's) but then again I have not been a fan of porn since I was mid teens and discovered the real thing. The only porn subscription I ever had in my life was to Playboy magazine (I never considered the eye candy to really be porn) and like the cliche it was primarily for the articles of which they had many good ones over the years.

AtlantisCash 05-26-2011 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane_2ptoh (Post 18106608)
This thread is clearly O.G.s comparing profits 10 yrs ago with profits now. A decade ago it was all TGPs. I'm not a techy myself, i'm in sales itself, what happened was that the general public copped on that computer skills were valuable, everyone taught themselves. Drag and drop software came along and now everyone has a couple of tubes/blogs up. (Even me).

It's sad. My uncle owned a very successful record shop for years which has obviously closed down.

The industry has changed forever. It sucks for you guys.

I still believe though that people will pay for quality and for niche. I would.



Computer skills are still valuable and will be always, because one is supperior to other, how ever you got some good points.

in fact, what i think is some of adult webmasters are stupid and most of them just copy eachotherr, some they don't try differant methods and this is one of the biggest flaw imho.

Cherry7 05-26-2011 08:45 AM

I like your pictures of the puppies. The other pictures you show have no originality or creativity, no use of photography, no use of lighting....

And please remember I am not the one telling the world how it should be done - You are.

But this is your fault, you don't read books, you have never done a photographic course, you don't watch films, you live in a great country which has a great photographic and cinema tradition but you remain ignorant of it.

You are rude about everyone else and so forgiving of your own crass mistakes.

If you think your pictures are hot sexy or good photography you are deluded.

You think you can't change lenses on a digital SLR camera. Less writing more reading called for.

As I say read some books, watch some good movies, read about photography, then come and teach about framing....

The Porn Nerd 05-26-2011 09:59 AM

Everyone should remember something basic about most (not all) people working in Adult:

This Industry is filled with people who couldn't get a job doing anything else. It's best to remember that. LOL

DVTimes 05-26-2011 10:36 AM

page 11 bump

Paul Markham 05-26-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18168320)
I like your pictures of the puppies. The other pictures you show have no originality or creativity, no use of photography, no use of lighting....

And please remember I am not the one telling the world how it should be done - You are.

But this is your fault, you don't read books, you have never done a photographic course, you don't watch films, you live in a great country which has a great photographic and cinema tradition but you remain ignorant of it.

You are rude about everyone else and so forgiving of your own crass mistakes.

If you think your pictures are hot sexy or good photography you are deluded.

You think you can't change lenses on a digital SLR camera. Less writing more reading called for.

As I say read some books, watch some good movies, read about photography, then come and teach about framing....

My pictures are porn pictures by a professional pornographer. The skill in in knowing how to pose and motivate a model. A lot harder than getting the lighting moody.

Actually you're wrong about the lighting. Take another look at picture 1 and 3. 2 is for the teen market where they want the flatter lighting. They don't want the more pro pictures.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/0286_1.jpg

To give you a clue. Can you tell where I had the lights and the way I got the effect?

Maybe you would like to tell us about how you achieved your creative lighting in the shots you show on your tour.

Mister Peabody has made a good post. Cherry, what is your full time job?

Nicky 05-26-2011 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18168612)
Everyone should remember something basic about most (not all) people working in Adult:

This Industry is filled with people who couldn't get a job doing anything else. It's best to remember that. LOL

Lest we forget lol

Robbie 05-26-2011 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18168948)
Cherry, what is your full time job?

I'm gonna go with:
"Being a man who is posing as a woman in the adult industry"


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