can't say that i am surprised.

you have to be logical here.

1) there is an opportunity.

2) the guy has no skin in the game. does not own high traffic domains, does not have adult businesses at stake.

3) he likes to talk. to everyone. and he believes the shit he slings, no matter who it's for.

4) the markets he has currently worked in are waining

its a no brainer. he has car payments and a limited skill set to apply to this industry. he's a talking head, and he's found a new thing to talk about.

it kind of is just what it is. the fruit is there to be picked and ICM is picking it, one piece at a time.

money talks.

doesn't have to be right. it just is what it is.

i'm very disappointed in chris, but he doesn't give a shit so mehh.

1. then don't act like a little bitch and all surprised when someone posts the truth and ask for them to be banned.

2. Even though it is what it is, doesn't mean we have to like it or him or do business with any of them.

3. Also don't need to congratulate them for being a douche bag.

4. We have every right to make our own decisions to try to make them pay for their bad decisions. I see Chris is still showing traffic shop in his sig. I for one will not do business with any of the companies that these .xxx people own or work for. Hopefully more people will do the same.

He is also showing Ariel Rebel.
You pulling her links to?

I am not, I am keeping them up.

i don't like it. i don't defend him. i think he's a douchebag too.

i also don't care what you think either.

neener neener.

She said she is buying .xxx - that would be enough to get me to pull links if she followed thru and I was actually promoting her.

Cool, more conversions for me.
Thats how these things play out. That is how it will play out.

Follow the money.:thumbsup
I am not advocating but in the end people will fold to pursue business.

it's really that simple. This industry will find entire new ways to fuck itself and there is no end to it.

PS: Why the RIP to Quiet?

Something happen to him?

That's a very insulting comment coming from somebody that I actually met and like... Just because I would be buying .xxx domains to protect my brand and integrity, you would choose to no longer promote me?...

...please explain your train of thought? Because you're making no sens here buddy.

Ariel its what Baddog does. He waits around till its a good time to stab you in the back.:thumbsup

By the way I need to contact you for promo content:) I been using the pancho stuff and lifting pic's you post on the forums LOL!@
How is it done?

He passed away in Early April

LOL.

I literally laughed out loud. Thanks!

Are you fucking kidding me?
Sigh...
Thats really sad.

sad but unfortunately true its in the search somewhere there was a thread about it

Send me your ICQ number via PM and I'll contact you next week for sure :) There is many new stuff to promote :P and what's on the Panchodog.com site suck :P

(dark humor for the thread)
 

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Excuse me...but don't you have Ariel Rebel trademarked?

Because if you do...then you don't have to buy anything. IF anyone else does buy that domain THEN you can legally TAKE it from them and not have to buy anything at all.

That's how trademarks work. :)

There is no need for anyone with one bit of business sense (meaning you have all your ducks in a row) to have to buy a .xxx domain
Just kick back and wait for some dumbass to infringe on your mark and then BOOM...you take it from them.

I do believe that you would be required to register it once it is turned over.
I also do believe attorneys cost money to pursue such things.

700.00 for an attorney +65 for the registration.

Or just do $65 for the registration and save $700.00.

Not true. You don't need an attorney to "pursue" it. And it definitely wouldn't cost $700 even if you did.

The point is...nobody has to buy these domains. And NO...you don't have to register it once it's turned over. You can let it rot in hell...just like the other dozens of .whatevers out there
Point is...that I have Claudia Marie trademarked for anything porn related. If nobody believes me...then please buy the .xxx of her and watch what I do.

Don't blow her convenient excuse to buy and support .xxx!

What ever comes to pass will be. Most adult companies and site operators have no trademarks nor even a legit business.

To prove a Trademark though requires a few things and unless you know what you are doing to enforce a trademark it will cost you money to prove it.

I am not an advocate I am merely saying some people will buy .XXX to expand there business and protect or capitalise on trademarks. Either way its a shit storm.

In theory....
When the processors move in and start transacting .XXX what will you be doing? You will be staying with the transaction provider I would hope as matter of business. But... You would be doing business with guys that support .XXX since those transactions providers ultimately process .XXX sites. or will you cashing out transactions providers as amatter of ethics?

No matter how you kick it you will learn to cope it one way or another. You can black list companies sure but when those companies you depend on turn the page where will you be?

These are things each webmaster will have to decide.
The ones talking out there ass screaming they will black list anyone associated with .XXX or doing business with .XXX is full of shit. If they stick to those principals they are going to stonewall themselves into a corner and be forced to make a decision.

Decide where you will sit now just so its not such a shock down the road.

You think for a second that if CCBILL decided they will transact .XXX that affiliates will be pulling links to programs that use CCBILL? Fuck no. You think programs that buy .XXX domains will have webmasters pull links? Fuck no.

Best bet is to watch what you say because in the end you will be forced to deal with .XXX if it does go through. You will back peddle and make exceptions and excuses.

Not really...you just look the trademark up on the govt. website. Happens everyday.

Back in the late 1990's we took "ampland" domains from people all over the world. Even ones that were just skirting with it...and even ones who made up headers that tried to look like us. We didn't spend one penny doing it. Just a few emails. :)

Just go here: http://tess2.uspto.gov/
Do a basic word search to find a trademark

And OOPS...just looked up Ariel Rebel and came back with nothing.

Ariel I suggest you not worry about .xxx and instead get your name trademarked immediately

I'd agree with Robbie.
Start trademarking.

As I told you in the other thread, you do not need to buy it as a preventative measure. If you are big enough to be concerned with someone taking arielrebel.xxx you are certainly big enough to have legal counsel if you can't understand the policies in place to PROTECT YOU. FYI: I like you too, but to say you are going to purchase a .xxx domain to protect your interests makes me think you have not spent much time researching the facts.

Mark, no matter what alias you post under you do not get any smarter. Name one instance that I ever stabbed someone in the back. This should be good.


:thumbsup

"Originally Posted by baddog
She said she is buying .xxx - that would be enough to get me to pull links if she followed thru and I was actually promoting her."

Uhmmm...
error.

LOL.
Try and stay away from calling people Dumb Baddog...

And yeah many nic's now and new toys, and many domains and more business. I am here because I think some things coming up for debate need to be read and I would like people to know who is saying it.
Guess I am getting smarter.

who are you trying to convince? us..or yourself?

You got mail:)

cocaine is expensive.

I kind a wonder,is this all fuss about xxx domain would be avoided if they simply put normal price for domain registration like 10$ instead 60$.

No.
As censorship is another whole bowl of wax.
States Laws, Taxes, Regulations will be comming.
States and counties and countries moving to block etc...

What error would that be, Mark?

A trademark will also protect you for all tld's. .xxx is only the beginning, there are companies trying to push through .porn, .adult and even .kids. Are you really going to buy everything?
As for us, if any affiliates want to buy the .xxx for our paysites and send the traffic to us we will sign documents stating that we will not take the domain as long as you only promote our sites on the domain.

So is rehab on your company's dime.

Twice.

I've never seen a writing that shows more how desperate someone is really for traffic.

Baddodge:

Well... Lets see. Apparently you two have met, you struck a cord as being nice. She herself was rather surprised at what ya stated. She felt somewhat betrayed I would imagine.

A post like the above. With the boldly stating "She is buying .XXX" then following it up with "That would be enough for me to pull links".

Is pretty back stabbing to me but I guess you got some other sort of logic to apply as an excuse. I guess you just do not see it. Maybe sometimes it's just better to look stupid then remove all reasonable doubt.

You may now follow up with something like "I was just being honest and would have no problem telling her that to her face".

Does this even warrant visiting?

PS: Yeah I love Ariel Rebel, I love what she is doing online and I love the checks I get for promoting her. SO I guess I just do not know exactly what you meant when needing clarification about "Backstabbing" and what it is. Obviously you do not understand it which makes for a very viable excuse.

Uh oh, here come's Alien Q meltdown.
I can just feel his pressure building up.

Don't make me bust out ponies:)

i care what you think :Oh crap

Can you tell me what this is on his nose?

http://www.oprano.com/xxx.jpg

back·stab·bing

noun /ˈbakˌstabiNG/

1. The action or practice of criticizing someone in a treacherous manner while feigning friendship

adjective /ˈbakˌstabiNG/

1. (of a person) Behaving in such a way


Web definitions

* Betrayal is the breaking or violation of a presumptive social contract, trust, or confidence that produces moral and psychological conflict within a relationship amongst individuals, between organizations or between individuals and organizations. ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backstabbing

Again I ask.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y_o6qicgyy...red+Savage.jpg

ADG

Well thus far it's safe to say they are not exactly getting the brightest minds.

So what are your other nics Alienq?

Bump. (pardon the pun)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Now that is funny!

So do you own the .net, .org, .co, .cx, .dk, .ar, .co.mx, .co.uk, .nl, .de, .se, .ru,.... variants of your domains as well?

Is this real? Or Photoshopped?

Looks real.

Having been in more than one domain dispute over domain trade marks I can tell you it cost $1600 to file the dispute with ICAAN. There is another $500 charge should you want to rebut what the alleged infringer used as their defense.

So it's time consuming and costs quite a bit to go after a domain you think you have the trade mark right to. You do not need a lawyer to file the complaint or to fight it but the larger companies that came after me both used attorneys adding to their cost.

ICAAN found I was not using these domains in such a way that they infringed on the trademarks of the companies that came after me, so it costs me nothing but time. If you have your proof and someone is infringing on your TM you have a good chance of getting the domain but it will cost you to do so.


As far as .xxx goes I am against it, as far as Chris taking this job it's no business of mine, guy has to do what's good for him.