Writing a letter to the DoD doesn't get your involvements in international politics written about in books and articles and your likeness in the movies.

Osama will live forever because of fucking idiots.

the us gave weapons and training to to the afghans to fight the russians, yes.

post proof though bin laden was on the cia payroll.

because they want you to believe that it was real
this helicopter was probably used for better realism of this story

they need hold up official 911 version
no matter the price

so who cares about top secret helicopter
when they can lost everything?


https://youtube.com/watch?v=ek7ZH...layer_embedded


think about this:

The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of the nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies but would be ashamed to tell a big one.--Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State." ----Josph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister


If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
--Josph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister

I've posted a number of sources.. What do you want his paycheck stub?

When Osama Bin Laden Was 'Tim Osman'

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...den_osman.html


A stolen version of PROMIS software is what is used to control airports and airplanes.... IE airplanes can be remotely controlled using PROMIS software...

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/osama_alias.gif

if you believe that shit then please identify yourself and immediately sign up for voluntary castration

If you don't believe this whole thing is a lie then you'll have to castrate your self. Easy to do... since you're already doing it.

You can't beat any sense into Obama sheep. They are rats following the Pied Piper, but you'll find more common sense and intelligence in rats.

This has to be the best movie plot synopsis I have ever read.

knew j orlin, rip. but Riconosciuto and Gunderson both compulsive liars, frauds and cranks.

have any sources besides mentally ill cranks who make up shit to get attention?

you don't even know what PROMIS is.

Americans would have to be idiots to believe that. You really think the republicans would keep the body hidden when it could have guaranteed them a win in 08?

I swear there are so many Americans that are dumber than shit.

very little proof - if any - that the US gave weapons to the Afghan Mujahideen, let alone trained them, nothing at all that he was on any payroll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA-Osa...en_controversy

Alex Jones is always a trusted source.

It's was a backdoor to be used by governments. Stolen and has become PTECH.

how does it control a plane?

There's just no way the Bush administration would sit on that info only to years later let the Obama administration take the credit.

The only person releasing that info at this current time benefits is Obama. On the global political stage there are many times when releasing that info could have better benefited the US.

If they released the pictures conspiracy theorists are still going to scream fake and photoshop and all it would accomplish would be adding fuel to the fire for islamic extremists.

I think the best way to handle it is actually how they have been handeling it. Burrial at sea ensures there is no shrine. No photos so there are no graphic images used for propaganda for terrorists to try and evoke an emotional response fro their base.

They have the pics and we will probably eventually see them in 10 or 20 years. Shit, I wouldn't be surprised if they still have the body but that prob won't come out.

I know it doesn't feel as satisfying to not see the proof, but if this guy was still alive he would make another video and prove it. Half the reason ass hats do shit like this is for the noteriety. Its done. It should be given as little fanfare as possible.

ironically the compound is turning into a shrine / holy place already.

A morphed version of PROMIS is used by many governments to do a lot of things.. Including but not limited to running the FAA. It's a backdoor with more or less artificial intelligence so being able to turn off/on autopilot on an airplane is very minor in it's capabilities.

Promis
by Michael C. Ruppert
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...01_promis.html

i know about that. but you have any real sources beyond the speculations of an ex-cop who has had multiple mental breakdowns during his life and a convict that PROMIS was morphed into what Ruppert claims it is now?

100 iced corpses

Ruppert wrote that article in 2000. Prior to 2001.

It's it FACT that Ptech who's office was raided by the feds for suspicion of terrorism supplied EVERY US federal agency with it's software.

Morphed into? How hard do you think it is to control a plane with a computer that has autopilot? Especially when you have the key to the backdoor?

Inslaw developed for the United States Department of Justice a highly efficient, people-tracking, software program known as: Prosecutor's Management Information System (Promis).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inslaw

there is no proof that it does what ruppert or the convict claim it does. it cannot control planes.

Which was stolen and turned into Ptech..

links? proof? aside from ruppert or his shitty sources?

The INSLAW Octopus

"(S)everal individuals testified under oath that Inslaw's PROMIS software was stolen and distributed internationally"

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1.01/inslaw_pr.html



Application of Network Centric Warfare Concepts to a Land-Air System

1 Introduction
In an attempt to demonstrate that the coordination and synchronisation of force elements of a
Land-Air System-of-systems (LAS) could be effectively achieved with the use of Network Centric
Warfare (NCW) concepts, we have constructed a system concept demonstrator (SCD) and
exercised this in a Synthetic Environment (SE). The LAS is a synergism of platform components,
C4ISR technologies and the people and procedures. Traditionally the formation, tasking and
command and control (C2) of Battlegroups, such as the LAS, has been accomplished by following
standardised procedures involving hierarchical lines of command and communication. This
process can lead to large time delays between task initiation and required effect and also can
impose a lot of rigidity to the mission plans. As a consequence, air strike missions in support of
land operations, for example, are not very responsive and tend to be restricted to targets with
fixed location. There is considerable potential for NCW technology to change this situation but
any introduction of technology must be accompanied by the development of new procedures and
operational doctrine. We have previously described (ref 1) a system-of-systems (SoS)
development and evaluation methodology, which is a combination of system architecting,Page 2

4. Ptech Inc., (http://www.ptechinc.com/) Using Framework – Ptech Framework 5.3 for
Windows, 1998. Also see: G. Kingston, P. Prekop, M. Chin, R. Jones, D. Kilpatrick and
P. Collier, “Applying Ptech Framework to Modelling Operational Architectures”,
Proceedings for Defence Operations Analysis Symposium (DOAS) Canberra, 16 – 17
March 2000.Page 13


http://www.dodccrp.org/events/6th_IC...k2/049_tr2.pdf



1994: Ptech Founded with Support from Suspected Terrorism Financiers

http://www.historycommons.org/contex...mi#a94ptechbmi

yes it was stolen but zero proof it was modified into some kind of AI software than can control planes.

The software itself is AI. To control a plane all you need is the backdoor.... How about we try this. You hook your computer up to everything electronic in your house. Send me over your IP, login and pass and let me have some fun. Or if you want to make it easier and give a better demonstration install gotomypc or something along those lines on there and send me the info..

as usual you have no proof for any of your claims but crack pot circle jerk sources.

not the sanest foundation for a worldview. :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh What the fuck are you talking about? You say there's no way it can be done. That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard from someone in the IT business. Go tell all that to Sony.. They need some good advisors like yourself apparently.

waste of time discussing this with you. you have nothing. enjoy your delusions.

The thing about this conspiracy is that when exacly was the last time we saw a video from Osama?

As far as Bush not wanting to take credit and letting Barry take it, you assume they are not working together, they could just be working both sides to get the right result

The only people who are going to be upset at seeing Osama shot are people who support Osama anyway. Most people won't even want to see it (if it really is gory I'm not sure I want to), most of those who do see it are going to be repulsed if it's as gory as they are claiming, and a few (sociopaths) are going to like it.

If you can accept they're lying about throwing him away (keeping his dead body seems the least likely of all scenarios to me) then you should accept they might be lying about other things.

Why would they bother to make a video to prove he's still alive? Surely it's reasonable for them to claim to have a video showing he's still alive, and when asked to show the video, come up with some spurious reason not to. (Like it might offend Americans.)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ezTRU_wKgF...piracy-lg1.jpg

ADG

actually that's quite believable

I believe he's thinking about an episode of the short-lived series The Lone Gunmen and confusing that with something else he's read online.

If they had kept his body you would have planes dropping out of the sky until they agreed to release his corpse.

Only if they are allowed on the plane

"Federal agents also tell ABCNews.com they are attempting to identify a man who passengers said helped Abdulmutallab change planes for Detroit when he landed in Amsterdam from Lagos, Nigeria.

Authorities had initially discounted the passenger accounts, but the agents say there is a growing belief the man have played a role to make sure Abdulmutallab "did not get cold feet."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/female...9636341&page=2

Shoddy Software Let Underwear Bomber On Plane
http://www.businessinsider.com/shodd...n-plane-2010-1

Sharp-dressed man aided terror suspect Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab onto plane without passport

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/abdulm...ory?id=9430536