http://www.giganews.com
http://www.newshosting.com
http://www.usenetserver.com
http://www.easynews.com
http://www.supernews.com

Etc, etc, etc.

Yeah, not like the good old days of the 90s, when some of the big players of today, who complain most about their own copyright, got rich running BBSs and websites with material they scanned from magazines, capped from videos or just stole from some other site.

That was different though, right?

Adult killed adult

Adult always was the trendsetter on the internet with new technologies, solutions and payment systems. ( thats why i got involved ) Every internet company adapted those technologies and solutions. Then adult started something new, something revolutionary, they started to give away all the content for free.
wow
The visitors didn't have to go through illegal sites anymore, use strange programs to download stuff, no more weird tools to install like toolbars or search programs.
Nope adult had a better solution, lets put it all online for free!!

That's were mainstream draw the line, no free stuff.

Unless some great new technology comes around or some other genius stuff, adult killed adult!
my :2 cents:

you're right, we have a gold-mint in our hands and we're making it produce copper instead. It's sad

every thread that has this has you commenting the same thing. and last i checked you weren't affiliate, pushing traffic, or have your own site at all. easy to comment from the outside looking in no?

I share your opinion, just ask yourself what was the latest tech/marketing innovation brought by the adult industry. All innovations are now born in mainstream.

Tech innovations? Such as how many ways can the surfer get fucked by supplying a credit card? Thats where alot of innovation efforts went.

People heralded them "Pioneer's as smart business men and innovators.:1orglaugh

I call them common thieves.

the latest...its more a marketing trick as i said, give it away for free

Hear that Facebook, Google, Yahoo, Hotbot, Excite, Mosaic?

I'm talking about real tech innovations that have been adapted by mainstream companies and not about banging the surfer.

The surfer now a days is smart and have plenty of other ways to spend his online time and only supplies his credit card if he likes the product/service or feels trusted.

Yeah indeed the latest innovations are giving away as much for free as possible

Have to adapt, plain and simple

That seems very high unless the traffic is really poor, or poorly targeted.

We find the problem is that traffic is too expensive, at $0.04 a click it just about covers costs, and a lot of traffic that can be bought is only worth $0.01 or less....

Yeah, take a look at the latest model updates at adultindustryresources :1orglaugh I gave up the old Be Seen Here model because the rubbish that got submitted was just a waste of time. Lexi Martinez, Taya (Arabella), Michelle Manzer, Talia Adams, Saffy. Some retired, some still going but you get nothing like that now:

2005 Michelle Manzer

2011 - UK Adult Industry Resources Ok 1 or 2 are hot but .......!!!

Exactly.

Giving away porn to sell porn is stupid. We never did give it away, spend little on promoting it and made billions. Now the top porn sites are free sites giving it away to sell a bit of ad space. :(

Add to that stealing from the customer to plain conning him on the sale and the decline was obvious.

Led by idiots like this poster you can see the thinking. It works for them, so why the fuck doesn't it work so well for me? I need to give more away.

this thread need more attention

I remember back in 2000 everyone was scarred about CC scams, nobody wanted to introduced their CC on the internet, now everyone is paying their bills online even my dad , so part of this thread is true :)

to be honest, besides my review site i'm not really effected by it all...just trying to make a point. However if things were to change would love to get (back) into adult more ie. running paysites etc.
:2 cents:

I thought it was booming my bad

Where have you been hiding?

I suppose success, booming and making lots of money are all relative. If you work from home and make minimum wage, it's better than living on hand outs.

If you're working from home making a nice living, it's better than earning minimum wage.

And so on.

For me doing well is making a lot more than that. Shooting a naked girl for a few hours and making $10,000 is a good day. :thumbsup

Speak for yourself.

From day one over 10 years ago I never promoted sites with hidden cross sales, never fucked my surfers and I'm still in business producing content and making great money with my members.

However sponsors have fucked me over, affiliate rep employees have fucked me over, editors I've hired have fucked me, and 3 billing companies went out of business taking well over $50,000 of my money with them.

I'm not part of the "we" that's fucked up this industry. And yes, there is still great money being made!