What the world will witness is a modern case of prosecutorial whoop ass. If I had a kid that killed my grandkid I would not support them, period. I'm not saying I'd go out of my way to support their guilt but making an ass of yourself like her parents have, no way. Two baby boomers sticking up for their slut kid who killed their granddaughter is assbackwards.

I call BullFuckingShit

I do think she suffers Borderline Personality Disorder tho

-L

I'm not that smart but anti-social personality disorder in part means a person with no conscience. We are talking a pre-meditated murder of a 2 year old. Sometimes murders happen in the midst of rage but this was calculated and pretty much a baby.

I don't think Caylee was abused by Casey. I bet she treated her pretty well but her insane jealously of her daughter combined with wanting to be free is what made her a killer.

Many parents love their children blindly.

The only thing I see powerful there is matching the duct tape and I'm skeptical of
that kind of science. That stuff is made in bulk and a bulk is shipped to the
same area stores. They may be able to match duct tape in the homes
of 10 people on that street for all I really know.
Same goes for the garbage bags.

I'm looking at a roll of duct tape on my desk right now. It's common stuff
for people to have. I use mine to tape the battery into my broken remote controls. :1orglaugh

The other stuff; heart stickers, blanket? The child lives in the home too and
has access to those things. It would be strong evidence to find those things
in the home of a different suspect that did not know the child. But finding things
on the child that came from the home the child lives in would be exactly normal.

Say the kid has home made jam on her shirt that exactly matches the jam
in the home. I'm like, No shit Sherlock the kid eats jam at home. That's not
evidence of a murder, that's evidence that the kid actually lived at home and
nothing else.

The biggest evidence I see against her is her own statements and actions.
Those are hard to explain away. Real hard.

I'm not an expert on duct tape but perhaps the rolls of tape are manufactured in recorded lots in a certain amount. Like roll 1-100 is lot 1. Rolls 101-200 is lot 2. What if the lot number is recorded and printed on the inside cardboard the duct tape rolls around.

What if there is just enough chemical difference between the brands of duct tapes manufactured that you could tell which company made what roll. There just might be enough differentiation one could determine what roll of tape a single piece came from.

I seem to remember them talking about it back when they were actually collecting the evidence and they remarked about the specific perforations on the item ( can't recall if it was the tape or the garbage bag ) that MATCHED the item found at the house with the item found with the body. If they were different it would EXCLUDE the evidence but because it matches it helps bolster the prosecution's case.

As for the stickers and blanket, of course the child lived in the home and that just shows that someone that had access to the home took the child, wrapped her in the blanket from the home, wrapped duct tape that matches the duct tape found at the home around her face and then placed a sticker that matches a page of stickers found at the home.

So one has to think did a stranger sneak into the house, find a roll of duct tape ( I never can find mine when I need it :) ) kill the child, wrap her in a blanket, place a sticker on her head then go find a garbage bag to carry the body out and then place it in the woods.

Of course that doesn't explain why the trunk of Casey's car smelled like a dead body or why she didn't report her child missing for 30 some days or why she has lied about everything from being employed at Disney to having a Nanny nobody including her family had ever met.

Did a stranger do it or did someone with normal access to the house do it.

It's all about building the case with evidence and the process of elimination and as long as the prosecution doesn't try to make her put on a glove I think this case is a slam dunk :winkwink:

I have some empathy, therefore I can understand why people defend their guilty family members but when the evidence is this great, I'd be defending Caylee. It would be something like this; Casey's alive and Caylee's dead, so they back their surviving kid even though they know she's guilty.

That's the fucking truth.



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Don't give me "what if/perhaps scenarios". That shit ain't facts.

Just tell me how they did match the duct tape.

I have a roll of duct tape and just looked at it and there is no lot number on the
tape itself. And even with a lot number, Walmart gets the whole box and every
cheap MoFo on my block got a roll from the same lot.

Hey, I think she is guilty. I just don't like people presenting half-assed detective
theories which actually fail every test when done by impartial people.

No matter what kind of matching you do, the child's decomposed skin should be
on the duct tape. Can't get around it. Live skin would leave DNA and dead skin
would stick to the adhesive and it would take 10 years of rain to wash it off.

Don't present juries with things that they can see is just bullshit because they
will consider that the entire case is just bullshit.

Kind of like "the glove" not fitting and not having his DNA even though he owned
them for years and wore them during a violent murder where he cut his finger.
The fucking glove could have been worn by someone who helped him.
But instead of that theory, the jury kept getting bullshit that he had the glove on.
Clearly that just wasn't true.

Impartial people smelled that bullshit.

Skip the bullshit and focus on things that prove something beyond a reasonable doubt.

I reasonably doubt that this chick had some "exclusive duct tape". :1orglaugh

The pics of her partying are more damaging than the duct tape.

The child's dna is all over the duct tape, decomp, hair, etc etc. They had to cut the tape off.

The tape is a little less common, I think they said they only sell it in that area at cosco or something like that.. but I agree that the tape is not the strongest peice of evidence. The tape on it's own doesn't carry much weight. Even if it was the most popular brand in the world sold at every walmart and walgreens you gotta add it all together. How many homes in that area have the same brand of duct tape, same brand of trash bag, foil heart stickers, and a whinnie the pooh children's bedroom set minus a pooh bear blankie?


It's when you put everything together that you connect it to the house. The sticker is significant because the sticker was put on the duct tape after it was wrapped around the child's head- which means it could have only been placed at or after the time of death. The sticker backing being found in the grandparents home puts the child in that house post mortem..

Pic of the sticker found with the child's body:

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...icker-1229.jpg

Source of sticker inside the Anthony Home:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...ssingheart.jpg

It's not a smoking gun, but you just narrowed down your suspects to people who have access to and are comfortable inside that home.

Also the last time Casey was at the Anthony home before the day Cindy called the cops, she showed up when George and Cindy weren't there, backed her car into the garage, and then asked a neighbor to borrow a shovel. After that her car runs out of gas, she calls her boyfriend who brings some to her and she acts all shady and won't let him near the car, insists she pour the gas in herself. then she ditches the vehicle shortly afterward in an Amscot parkinglot (probably hoping someone would steal it).

It's hard to say what the strongest single peice of evidence is, but every little bit becomes powerful when you put it all together. Like did you know that crazy bitch led cops all the way inside the office complex at universal studios and had them walking around aimlessly in circles before one of the detectives had enough and finally called her on her bullshit and forced her to come clean and admit she didnt work there?

That is some serious pathological liar business right there. It takes balls to take a lie that far. It not only speaks of her character and what she's capable of, but also it shows that someone who should have been giving the cops valuable information to find her missing child was preoccupied with feeding them bullshit and trying to make them chase their tails.

I could go on and on about it all night, but it's like the Scott Peterson trial. There's not one perfect thing, but when you add together all the peices and all the lies it can't be anybody else. :2 cents:

Well that makes a big difference. So now I know that the duct tape was
on the child and not just debris from the woods.

Now the duct tape must be connected to a suspect.

I'm not convinced that duct tape can be "matched" exclusively.
But it would be strong evidence if it can be matched.
But it's strong because it was used in the death, not simply because it came
from the home.

Sorry, but you are having a logic problem on the other evidence that did not cause death.
You keep connecting the other evidence to the house.
That is meaningless because the child is connected to the house already.

This is not Joe Blows house that never knew the kid. If this stuff is connected to
Joe Blows house then he's totally guilty.

You keep proving to me that the girl lived in the house. That is already known.

It's like you are taking a page out of crime solving that works, but not seeing
that it's harder to make it work when the suspect and victim live in the same house.

The duct tape and the garbage bag are important because they were used in the
crime. The other stuff is just stuff that the child could have access to and
played with.

It's hard to not see the mother as guilty, I'm just saying that this evidence is
not absolutely conclusive.

The stuff the mother did while the girl was missing is much more conclusive.

I get what you're saying, that the kid could have had the blanket with her when she was kidnapped, but the duct tape and the trash bag weren't the only things linked directly to the crime, there's also the sticker.

The sticker is important because the sticker not only also comes from the house, but the sticker was placed on the child's mouth over the duct tape after it was applied- meaning the sticker was also placed on the body at the time or after death.

The sticker itself is found with the body, the backing it was peeled off from is found in the Anthony family home, that is a direct match.

You want some other good shit, read this im convo with the guy she was hooking up with the month before her kid went missing:

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_...taliano 3.pdf

It's not proof but it shows motive and frame of mind. I wish I could copy paste the good parts but it's a PDF of a scanned photocopy. Anyway, reading this bear in mind Casey Anthony is lying about both having a job and having a nanny. She keeps stringing this dude along saying she has work to do and saying she's waiting for the nanny to be avail to watch her kid when in reality it's all lies.

If Joe Blow has never had access to the Anthony house wouldn't that exclude him as a suspect because he didn't have access to the specific items found with the body like the blanket, sticker and to a lesser degree the duct tape and garbage bag.

Wouldn't that mean those that DID have access would be suspects until they were cleared with other evidence or an iron clad alibi.

Study the Facts of a case before you start running your trap mate.

justinsain you are Just In Sane!













If Casey Anthony is Innocent, then Retox Josh is not a complete moron.

I wonder why opening statements were delayed? Maybe because they couldn't find enough potential jurors to lie about being open minded.:1orglaugh

Moms a pimp ass celeb now!

she's cute her eyes are always fully open, looks like 2 pingpong balls.

They may be close to a plea. If you we?re the DA what would you accept/offer? She?s not getting the death penalty, may not even get a murder conviction.

She won't admit to anything. I don't think there'll be any sympathy for the devil.

She's a crazy bitch.

http://www.wesh.com/2011/0509/27824211_480X360.jpg

I think the japanese call it sanpaku eyes.

Man, if I was in Florida, I'd take this case. I literally knew nothing about it until a few days ago when my girlfriend brought it up, and I really don't have much interest in it, but hey. You could make good money off of it.

DA's opening statement tells it like it is. :thumbsup

I can't wait to hear the defense opening statement that will try to offer at best a tiny sliver of doubt.

Up to this point the defense has never had anything close to a logical explanation as to why
the defendant is innocent. If they don't come up with some bombshell evidence quick this will all be one big
landslide verdict and a total waste of time, money and resources of us taxpayers.

That's a great pic of her! LMFAO!


:Oh crap

That's her 49th street booking photo when they brought her over here to clearwater last week.

I almost wanted to pull a John Waters and sit in the court room, but I've been through Jury selection, it sucks, it's like pulling teeth to sit through.

And oh man, that white trash bitch that yelled out in the court room.. man way to make my town look bad. :disgust

She had no shoes on either. Who takes their shoes off in court? Lord.

They just showed on my local news a woman that got pulled out of the line waiting to go inside to spectate because she was drunk. They said they had seating for 50 people from the general public and they were waiting in line starting at 4:00 am this morning. Also said they only turned away about 20 after the seats were taken so not a huge line for a ticket to spectate.

So the drunk woman ( looked in her 30s ) has been in line since early this morning. The Sheriff pulls her from the line because she had the potential to create a disturbance inside. TV news cameras are all over her and one reporter asks if she has been drinking. She stares for a few seconds and the reporter follows up with " I can smell it on your breath right now " and the girl replies with her eyes half shut in classic drunk slur " O'rily, what do you have a degree in alcoholism? " :1orglaugh

I looked for the vid but they don't have it up yet on WFTV

So don't you think for a second that Tampa has cornered the market on trailer trash :winkwink:

WOW!

Defense opening statement says the way the little girl died was by accidental drowning in the family swimming pool.

So they are defending it as an accident and then will try to explain her not reporting it due to having a rotten life with her family.

Now he says her dad has been sexually abusing Casey since age eight which began her life of denial.

Typical bullshit smokescreen-justification defense. The only relevant question that needs answering definitively in this case is DID SHE DO IT, or did she play a part in the death of the child.

All other crap her attorney will bring up is just clutter.


If she did it and it's proven unequivocably then she should fry on maximum overload for it. Period.

Shit is getting real for sure. I suspected this route from the defense, but not as hardcore as they are going. Saying George was there when Caylee died, saying he forced her to cover it up and he was sexually abusing her since she was 8 years old... wow.

Baez is doing a better job than I thought, but he's gonna have to back this shit up. He wants to say that the DA's case is based on junk science but his case is almost completely based on the words of a pathological liar.

With all these claims he can't get around not putting Casey on the stand. She won't break perry mason style, but I don't think she will be able to hide her true colors either. She has a short fuse and a cold disposition.

The parents have had Casey's back for the most part. Really interesting to see how this shit plays out now. George is on the stand now.

Damn Durty South! :1orglaugh

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I bet Nancy Grace's head explodes tonight :winkwink:

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What channels are you guys watching on? I had on CourtTv / TruTV I guess it's called now but then around 3-ish they switched to some car chase bs so I went to Headline News / HLN.

I just want to have it on in the background while I'm working, no commentator BS.

Saw a bit of this on tv today. Hadn't heard much about it before then. They should have me on the jury so i can write a book about it.

There are raw feeds if you search for "Casey Anthony trial live"

I am tired of hearing about it. She is guilty and that is all there is to it.

I had seen that on the news the other day boy people are fucking strange.

Wow at the defense being put on!

Is there any truth to the defense claims or is the defense attorney crazy or
is Casey such a liar that she told her attorney this to throw her dad and brother
under the bus.

Wow!

I never expected to hear anything like what's going on in this trial.

It doesn't make much sense that Casey Anthony’s father, a former police detective
would get rid of the body, which would not have any physical injuries but would
have water in the lungs which would support accidental drowning.

The stupid acts following a drowning would make more sense if her father was
not involved.

I think only a plea bargain can save her ass.

Agreed. If the kid drowned in the swimming pool there's no real crime. Occasionally they will slap the parents down with neglect, but there's no way an ex cop would decide to convince his daughter to hide the body.

Also there was no damage to the bones. There's no way George Anthony wouldn't have attempted CPR had he found his granddaughter in the pool. Broken or cracked ribs are a frequent side effect of an adult performing CPR on a child- even on adults.

The whole thing wreaks of bullshit but it's a good argument from the defense to try to save her life.

I think you're spot on too about the plea deal. Baez wants to put on a show he claims for that little psychopath but he is risking his client's life for his own fame and ego. He put on a good opening statement but he's no F Lee Bailey / Johnny Cochran. He's never even tried a death penalty case before.

Most defense attys don't lay that much out when they open up so they don't paint themselves in a corner later. Good luck proving that stuff. Pride comes before the fall. :2 cents:

I never called scott peterson guilty until the jury did and I'll have to do the same here. I have my opinions though based entirely on media reports. I think thats like everyone else on the planet, but only those jury members will be there for the real testimony. If they bring in some person who testifies that the childs body was clearly under water for a period of time or something, it's going to get interesting isn't it? Hard to keep an open mind, but you have to.

That person would only be the coroner and the coroner has not mentioned any
such thing.

The drowning defense is only possible because the coroner could not determine the
actual cause of death.

Did you see what she wrote in her diary just a few days after she left home with
the child?


Deep!

They'll bring in some other coroner to look over the paperwork and say this that and the other thing could only be true if.. blah blah blah. They always do that stuff.

And they'll drill the real coroner and try to corner him to make it seem he concluded some outside suggestion was true and ignored the "facts".. heh

We all know how this stuff works!

I need to know why duct tape was put around the little girls mouth and nose after an
" accidental drowning ".

I need to know where the father placed the body to hide it as they also said the meter reader was moving the remains around.

I'd like to know how you swear in to testify the whole truth and then two people can have conflicting testimony. The defendant says the father found the child and then the father says he wasn't even there. One person is telling the truth and the other is lying.

I can't see him doing that myself, you never know what goes on in other peoples house. She said he had been molesting her from age 8 so she was used to covering things up. My Uncle who was a cop for years and is now a big wig at the FBI molested me and no one would do anything about it because they couldn't believe he would do that as he was a "Upstanding " citizen and a cop but he did. I was 4 and the event caused me to stop talking and if you have ever been around a 4 year old you know they don't shut up.

Yeah, and on the page on the other side it says something like "Every Day Is a New Begining" w/ like a drawing of a butterfly or some shit.


I can't wait till the prosecution starts dropping bombs.

That should be good.

New page?