They're seating the jury right now and then the trial starts. It's a media circus down at the court house and I'm sure the trial will be televised somewhere.

Anybody who is in his or her right mind would not wait 1 FUCKING MONTH to report their child missing, let alone a toddler!!!!!

As far as I am concerned that bitch needs to be fed to a bunch of hungry gators, end of story and let's save our tax payers money! This farce is going to cost Florida millions of dollars that it does not have!

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Exactly, if i were a juror and saw this pic it would instantly bring up my insecurities and short comings to the forefront of the issue... and i'd have to vote her guilty.

That's the thing, the duct tape makes it a hard sell that the death was accidental. There was so much tape covering the child's nose and mouth, maybe she did it in a fit of rage, but it's a suffocating act. An extremely cruel suffocating act. I mean, why would someone do something like that? Was the kid not falling asleep? Was she talkig back? Christ she was only 2. It's hard to try and make sense of the actions of a broken mind.

Honestly, I think it's pretty obvious Casey Anthony is at fault for the child's death and it was from more than child neglect. Because they have her seraching online how to make chloroform and because chloroform- especially when used with a child- can be fatal they will probably have the evidence they need to give her the death penalty. Personally though I don't know if she qualifies. It's pretty clear her brain is broken. Not that I have a problem with putting someone like her to sleep, but I think the death penalty should only be reserved for the most heinous cold blooded killers. As much as I hate her and find what she did dispicable, she's broken. She should be life.

i might agree if she had cooperated with jonny law in some way. Seems to me however she's just full of shit, & acted with malice (duct tape, cover up.) IMO thats why the DA is going for the chair. They'd give her life if she just came clean & begged for mercy.

Well if that's the case she's dumb as a rock.

I have heard at least one news report stating that the cops did not recover DNA
matching the child or the mother from the duct tape.

I find it hard to believe that the duct tape was on the child while the body
was decomposing. That is pretty much impossible without finding DNA.
The adhesive of the duct tape should actually have chunks of the child's skin on it.

That would have to be explained to me. And no I don't buy the "exposure to elements"
theory. The body wasn't out in the rain for 10 years.

They just said on TV that the defense says the reason she waited 30 days to report her child missing is because she is suffering from a form of post traumatic stress syndrome brought on by some form of abuse by her parents :upsidedow

People dont kill themselves in prison because they think they deserve a harsher punishment. She should serve the harshest punishment.. life in prison without possibility of parole, and no knifes or ropes to sneak out of it by killing herself. Why give her a mercy killing? She needs to suffer if she did this crime.

They have Caylee's DNA on the duct tape, I think you're thinking of the fuck up the FBI lab had.

They don't have Casey's DNA on the duct tape, but they found a match to the duct tape in the parent's garage as well as the sheet of stickers the heart sticker on the mouth came from. The garbage bag also match bags in the grandparents home as well as the pooh bear blanket the child was in the garbage bag with is part of a set also from the grandparent's house.

I guess we'll see how it pans out...

What the world will witness is a modern case of prosecutorial whoop ass. If I had a kid that killed my grandkid I would not support them, period. I'm not saying I'd go out of my way to support their guilt but making an ass of yourself like her parents have, no way. Two baby boomers sticking up for their slut kid who killed their granddaughter is assbackwards.

I call BullFuckingShit

I do think she suffers Borderline Personality Disorder tho

-L

I'm not that smart but anti-social personality disorder in part means a person with no conscience. We are talking a pre-meditated murder of a 2 year old. Sometimes murders happen in the midst of rage but this was calculated and pretty much a baby.

I don't think Caylee was abused by Casey. I bet she treated her pretty well but her insane jealously of her daughter combined with wanting to be free is what made her a killer.

Many parents love their children blindly.

The only thing I see powerful there is matching the duct tape and I'm skeptical of
that kind of science. That stuff is made in bulk and a bulk is shipped to the
same area stores. They may be able to match duct tape in the homes
of 10 people on that street for all I really know.
Same goes for the garbage bags.

I'm looking at a roll of duct tape on my desk right now. It's common stuff
for people to have. I use mine to tape the battery into my broken remote controls. :1orglaugh

The other stuff; heart stickers, blanket? The child lives in the home too and
has access to those things. It would be strong evidence to find those things
in the home of a different suspect that did not know the child. But finding things
on the child that came from the home the child lives in would be exactly normal.

Say the kid has home made jam on her shirt that exactly matches the jam
in the home. I'm like, No shit Sherlock the kid eats jam at home. That's not
evidence of a murder, that's evidence that the kid actually lived at home and
nothing else.

The biggest evidence I see against her is her own statements and actions.
Those are hard to explain away. Real hard.

I'm not an expert on duct tape but perhaps the rolls of tape are manufactured in recorded lots in a certain amount. Like roll 1-100 is lot 1. Rolls 101-200 is lot 2. What if the lot number is recorded and printed on the inside cardboard the duct tape rolls around.

What if there is just enough chemical difference between the brands of duct tapes manufactured that you could tell which company made what roll. There just might be enough differentiation one could determine what roll of tape a single piece came from.

I seem to remember them talking about it back when they were actually collecting the evidence and they remarked about the specific perforations on the item ( can't recall if it was the tape or the garbage bag ) that MATCHED the item found at the house with the item found with the body. If they were different it would EXCLUDE the evidence but because it matches it helps bolster the prosecution's case.

As for the stickers and blanket, of course the child lived in the home and that just shows that someone that had access to the home took the child, wrapped her in the blanket from the home, wrapped duct tape that matches the duct tape found at the home around her face and then placed a sticker that matches a page of stickers found at the home.

So one has to think did a stranger sneak into the house, find a roll of duct tape ( I never can find mine when I need it :) ) kill the child, wrap her in a blanket, place a sticker on her head then go find a garbage bag to carry the body out and then place it in the woods.

Of course that doesn't explain why the trunk of Casey's car smelled like a dead body or why she didn't report her child missing for 30 some days or why she has lied about everything from being employed at Disney to having a Nanny nobody including her family had ever met.

Did a stranger do it or did someone with normal access to the house do it.

It's all about building the case with evidence and the process of elimination and as long as the prosecution doesn't try to make her put on a glove I think this case is a slam dunk :winkwink:

I have some empathy, therefore I can understand why people defend their guilty family members but when the evidence is this great, I'd be defending Caylee. It would be something like this; Casey's alive and Caylee's dead, so they back their surviving kid even though they know she's guilty.

That's the fucking truth.



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Don't give me "what if/perhaps scenarios". That shit ain't facts.

Just tell me how they did match the duct tape.

I have a roll of duct tape and just looked at it and there is no lot number on the
tape itself. And even with a lot number, Walmart gets the whole box and every
cheap MoFo on my block got a roll from the same lot.

Hey, I think she is guilty. I just don't like people presenting half-assed detective
theories which actually fail every test when done by impartial people.

No matter what kind of matching you do, the child's decomposed skin should be
on the duct tape. Can't get around it. Live skin would leave DNA and dead skin
would stick to the adhesive and it would take 10 years of rain to wash it off.

Don't present juries with things that they can see is just bullshit because they
will consider that the entire case is just bullshit.

Kind of like "the glove" not fitting and not having his DNA even though he owned
them for years and wore them during a violent murder where he cut his finger.
The fucking glove could have been worn by someone who helped him.
But instead of that theory, the jury kept getting bullshit that he had the glove on.
Clearly that just wasn't true.

Impartial people smelled that bullshit.

Skip the bullshit and focus on things that prove something beyond a reasonable doubt.

I reasonably doubt that this chick had some "exclusive duct tape". :1orglaugh

The pics of her partying are more damaging than the duct tape.

The child's dna is all over the duct tape, decomp, hair, etc etc. They had to cut the tape off.

The tape is a little less common, I think they said they only sell it in that area at cosco or something like that.. but I agree that the tape is not the strongest peice of evidence. The tape on it's own doesn't carry much weight. Even if it was the most popular brand in the world sold at every walmart and walgreens you gotta add it all together. How many homes in that area have the same brand of duct tape, same brand of trash bag, foil heart stickers, and a whinnie the pooh children's bedroom set minus a pooh bear blankie?


It's when you put everything together that you connect it to the house. The sticker is significant because the sticker was put on the duct tape after it was wrapped around the child's head- which means it could have only been placed at or after the time of death. The sticker backing being found in the grandparents home puts the child in that house post mortem..

Pic of the sticker found with the child's body:

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...icker-1229.jpg

Source of sticker inside the Anthony Home:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...ssingheart.jpg

It's not a smoking gun, but you just narrowed down your suspects to people who have access to and are comfortable inside that home.

Also the last time Casey was at the Anthony home before the day Cindy called the cops, she showed up when George and Cindy weren't there, backed her car into the garage, and then asked a neighbor to borrow a shovel. After that her car runs out of gas, she calls her boyfriend who brings some to her and she acts all shady and won't let him near the car, insists she pour the gas in herself. then she ditches the vehicle shortly afterward in an Amscot parkinglot (probably hoping someone would steal it).

It's hard to say what the strongest single peice of evidence is, but every little bit becomes powerful when you put it all together. Like did you know that crazy bitch led cops all the way inside the office complex at universal studios and had them walking around aimlessly in circles before one of the detectives had enough and finally called her on her bullshit and forced her to come clean and admit she didnt work there?

That is some serious pathological liar business right there. It takes balls to take a lie that far. It not only speaks of her character and what she's capable of, but also it shows that someone who should have been giving the cops valuable information to find her missing child was preoccupied with feeding them bullshit and trying to make them chase their tails.

I could go on and on about it all night, but it's like the Scott Peterson trial. There's not one perfect thing, but when you add together all the peices and all the lies it can't be anybody else. :2 cents:

Well that makes a big difference. So now I know that the duct tape was
on the child and not just debris from the woods.

Now the duct tape must be connected to a suspect.

I'm not convinced that duct tape can be "matched" exclusively.
But it would be strong evidence if it can be matched.
But it's strong because it was used in the death, not simply because it came
from the home.

Sorry, but you are having a logic problem on the other evidence that did not cause death.
You keep connecting the other evidence to the house.
That is meaningless because the child is connected to the house already.

This is not Joe Blows house that never knew the kid. If this stuff is connected to
Joe Blows house then he's totally guilty.

You keep proving to me that the girl lived in the house. That is already known.

It's like you are taking a page out of crime solving that works, but not seeing
that it's harder to make it work when the suspect and victim live in the same house.

The duct tape and the garbage bag are important because they were used in the
crime. The other stuff is just stuff that the child could have access to and
played with.

It's hard to not see the mother as guilty, I'm just saying that this evidence is
not absolutely conclusive.

The stuff the mother did while the girl was missing is much more conclusive.

I get what you're saying, that the kid could have had the blanket with her when she was kidnapped, but the duct tape and the trash bag weren't the only things linked directly to the crime, there's also the sticker.

The sticker is important because the sticker not only also comes from the house, but the sticker was placed on the child's mouth over the duct tape after it was applied- meaning the sticker was also placed on the body at the time or after death.

The sticker itself is found with the body, the backing it was peeled off from is found in the Anthony family home, that is a direct match.

You want some other good shit, read this im convo with the guy she was hooking up with the month before her kid went missing:

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_...taliano 3.pdf

It's not proof but it shows motive and frame of mind. I wish I could copy paste the good parts but it's a PDF of a scanned photocopy. Anyway, reading this bear in mind Casey Anthony is lying about both having a job and having a nanny. She keeps stringing this dude along saying she has work to do and saying she's waiting for the nanny to be avail to watch her kid when in reality it's all lies.

If Joe Blow has never had access to the Anthony house wouldn't that exclude him as a suspect because he didn't have access to the specific items found with the body like the blanket, sticker and to a lesser degree the duct tape and garbage bag.

Wouldn't that mean those that DID have access would be suspects until they were cleared with other evidence or an iron clad alibi.

Study the Facts of a case before you start running your trap mate.

justinsain you are Just In Sane!













If Casey Anthony is Innocent, then Retox Josh is not a complete moron.

I wonder why opening statements were delayed? Maybe because they couldn't find enough potential jurors to lie about being open minded.:1orglaugh

Moms a pimp ass celeb now!

she's cute her eyes are always fully open, looks like 2 pingpong balls.

They may be close to a plea. If you we?re the DA what would you accept/offer? She?s not getting the death penalty, may not even get a murder conviction.

She won't admit to anything. I don't think there'll be any sympathy for the devil.

She's a crazy bitch.

http://www.wesh.com/2011/0509/27824211_480X360.jpg

I think the japanese call it sanpaku eyes.

Man, if I was in Florida, I'd take this case. I literally knew nothing about it until a few days ago when my girlfriend brought it up, and I really don't have much interest in it, but hey. You could make good money off of it.

DA's opening statement tells it like it is. :thumbsup

I can't wait to hear the defense opening statement that will try to offer at best a tiny sliver of doubt.

Up to this point the defense has never had anything close to a logical explanation as to why
the defendant is innocent. If they don't come up with some bombshell evidence quick this will all be one big
landslide verdict and a total waste of time, money and resources of us taxpayers.

That's a great pic of her! LMFAO!


:Oh crap

That's her 49th street booking photo when they brought her over here to clearwater last week.

I almost wanted to pull a John Waters and sit in the court room, but I've been through Jury selection, it sucks, it's like pulling teeth to sit through.

And oh man, that white trash bitch that yelled out in the court room.. man way to make my town look bad. :disgust

She had no shoes on either. Who takes their shoes off in court? Lord.

They just showed on my local news a woman that got pulled out of the line waiting to go inside to spectate because she was drunk. They said they had seating for 50 people from the general public and they were waiting in line starting at 4:00 am this morning. Also said they only turned away about 20 after the seats were taken so not a huge line for a ticket to spectate.

So the drunk woman ( looked in her 30s ) has been in line since early this morning. The Sheriff pulls her from the line because she had the potential to create a disturbance inside. TV news cameras are all over her and one reporter asks if she has been drinking. She stares for a few seconds and the reporter follows up with " I can smell it on your breath right now " and the girl replies with her eyes half shut in classic drunk slur " O'rily, what do you have a degree in alcoholism? " :1orglaugh

I looked for the vid but they don't have it up yet on WFTV

So don't you think for a second that Tampa has cornered the market on trailer trash :winkwink:

WOW!

Defense opening statement says the way the little girl died was by accidental drowning in the family swimming pool.

So they are defending it as an accident and then will try to explain her not reporting it due to having a rotten life with her family.

Now he says her dad has been sexually abusing Casey since age eight which began her life of denial.

Typical bullshit smokescreen-justification defense. The only relevant question that needs answering definitively in this case is DID SHE DO IT, or did she play a part in the death of the child.

All other crap her attorney will bring up is just clutter.


If she did it and it's proven unequivocably then she should fry on maximum overload for it. Period.

Shit is getting real for sure. I suspected this route from the defense, but not as hardcore as they are going. Saying George was there when Caylee died, saying he forced her to cover it up and he was sexually abusing her since she was 8 years old... wow.

Baez is doing a better job than I thought, but he's gonna have to back this shit up. He wants to say that the DA's case is based on junk science but his case is almost completely based on the words of a pathological liar.

With all these claims he can't get around not putting Casey on the stand. She won't break perry mason style, but I don't think she will be able to hide her true colors either. She has a short fuse and a cold disposition.

The parents have had Casey's back for the most part. Really interesting to see how this shit plays out now. George is on the stand now.