GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   U.S. Supreme Court sides with police in warrantless search (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1022974)

dyna mo 05-17-2011 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18146492)
:helpme

well its simple, cocaine should be legal too :thumbsup

americans LOOOOOVE cocaine and pot

"A survey of 17 countries has found that despite its punitive drug policies the United States has the highest levels of illegal cocaine and cannabis use."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0630201007.htm

i'm surprised by some of those #s although i've never rly thought about it. i do know we do like our drugs, despite outward appearances, like the war on drugs and people saying they don't.

i wonder how much of that resulted from the war on drugs eh. the you told me i can't so i am going to anyway thing.

dyna mo 05-17-2011 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18146510)
and in a sane society the police might have confiscated the guys weed and left to go catch the cocaine dealer they were chasing.

but in reality it sounds like they thought "hey at least we caught us a pothead, we can catch the coke dealer later" :1orglaugh

i gotta laugh, its so insane i have to laugh even though it is truly fucked up.

well, that's the part that doesn't make sense right, why did they chose to make a big deal outta this guy smoking weed in his own apartment? and why did they ultimately not prosecute the suspected cocaine dealer if he was inititially so bad a dude they had to go busting down doors to get him? those 2 things don't jibe eh.

Tom_PM 05-17-2011 02:29 PM

Back when I was a kid/teen/young adult (pre-Reagan era), nobody would hardly EVER go to jail over weed. You had to be growing a farm of it, or dealing pounds of it before anyone gave a shit. I've told the story many times of being an altar boy and father mike firing up a bowl in the church rectory basement. It wasn't even illegal then. Nobody gave a shit because it made you hungry and sleepy. It is a totally different thing now.

dyna mo 05-17-2011 02:34 PM

i agree that cops should and need to be able to use all 5 senses while serving their communities but it's pretty sucky to think all of our rights have been lessened now because some dude was smoking a bowl in his apartment at the wrong time and the cops guessed wrong.

FAIL!

Fletch XXX 05-17-2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18146562)
Back when I was a kid/teen/young adult (pre-Reagan era), nobody would hardly EVER go to jail over weed. You had to be growing a farm of it, or dealing pounds of it before anyone gave a shit. I've told the story many times of being an altar boy and father mike firing up a bowl in the church rectory basement. It wasn't even illegal then. Nobody gave a shit because it made you hungry and sleepy. It is a totally different thing now.

even louisiana was going forward with legal weed in 70s, they even set up Marijuana Board and created the tax stamp for it, but quickly changed it to mandatory sentencing, craaaazy

http://norml.org/images/legal/statel...A_taxstamp.jpg

u-Bob 05-17-2011 02:38 PM

"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding."
-- Louis Brandeis, in Olmstead v. United States (1928)

dyna mo 05-17-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18146585)
even louisiana was going forward with legal weed in 70s, they even set up Marijuana Board and created the tax stamp for it, but quickly changed it to mandatory sentencing, craaaazy

http://norml.org/images/legal/statel...A_taxstamp.jpg

how is the weed in louisiana? can y'all grow the dank there?

dyna mo 05-17-2011 02:39 PM

at least arnold did something right & decriminalized it here.

Eric 05-17-2011 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18146301)
I'm gonna get flamed for this, but don't the police only need "cause" to enter a residence or conduct a search? I mean, if they smell pot coming from a window they don't need a search warrant - they smelled the drug, knew a crime was taking place, and investigated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probable_cause

Robbie 05-17-2011 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 18146634)

Yep, the way the constitution reads is that they have to have "probable cause" to even ASK for a search warrant.

Our founding fathers never wanted cops busting into people's homes without a search warrant (or even searching our person)

directfiesta 05-17-2011 03:07 PM

Fifty no causes !!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18146397)
for those who didn't read the article

n odd set of facts led to Monday's ruling.

Police were only at King's apartment building because they were chasing a man who sold cocaine to a police informant. The man entered King's building and ducked into an apartment. The officers heard a door slam in a hallway, but by the time they were able to look down it, they saw only two closed doors.

They didn't know which one the suspect had gone through, but, smelling burnt pot, chose the apartment on the left.

In fact, the suspect had gone into the apartment on the right. Police eventually arrested him, too, but prosecutors later dropped charges against him for reasons that were not explained in court papers.

Priceless !!!!:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

u-Bob 05-17-2011 03:07 PM

50/woj/jfk

seeandsee 05-17-2011 03:17 PM

People they dont make that rules to protect us, they make them to fuck us

PornMD 05-17-2011 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18146374)
Please prove you smelt something. Without proof of the cause there is no cause. This is where the SC is wrong.

That never works. Cops pull cars over for shit like "you screeched your tires" with no way to prove they heard screeching tires. The reason they get away with it is because generally if it's word of cop vs. word of citizen, word of cop wins.

IllTestYourGirls 05-17-2011 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 18146743)
That never works. Cops pull cars over for shit like "you screeched your tires" with no way to prove they heard screeching tires. The reason they get away with it is because generally if it's word of cop vs. word of citizen, word of cop wins.

Exactly the problem.

Dead 05-17-2011 04:14 PM

Police state is the end game. Period. Never thought I would see the day when the powers to protect were the same to possibly injure, or worse, kill mine based on a construded human sense that has error without accountability. Law, has given the police the keys and they will abuse this power as history shows, without recourse they Will abuse it to best of their ability.
Arm yourselves, trust yourself and those close to you. This shit is gonna get weird real quick.

Coup 05-17-2011 04:15 PM

owned :2 cents:

Dead 05-17-2011 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy (Post 18146381)
I guess some of you do not know what the Supreme Court is.

Well this case set's a precedent and that will be used nation wide for future government home invasion cases.


Supreme Court Folks!!! This is going to be the new norm (law), not good, not good for all! They no longer will require ANY truth, just a hunch......

moeloubani 05-17-2011 04:37 PM

Not sure about American law but in Canadian law, the smell of burnt marijuana isn't enough by itself to allow a search, the reason being that burned marijuana is already burned and there is no proof that the person is in actual possession of the drug. Last time I checked at least.

But the Conservative majority coming into power means a lot of that might change :(.

InfoGuy 05-17-2011 05:43 PM

I'm not advocating the legality of using pot, but I think this decision sucks for our fundamental rights.

Does this mean cops can now bust down someone's door claiming rape because their wife/girlfriend is a screamer in bed or claiming child abuse because someone's baby is crying?

marlboroack 05-17-2011 05:59 PM

I can't comprehend this thread 100%, guess it's time for bed. :upsidedow

Fletch XXX 05-17-2011 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead (Post 18146846)
Arm yourselves, trust yourself

:thumbsup

LedZep 05-17-2011 06:35 PM

CROWN POINT, Ind. ? According to Newton County Sheriff, Don Hartman Sr., random house to house searches are now possible and could be helpful following the Barnes v. STATE of INDIANA Supreme Court ruling issued on May 12th, 2011. When asked three separate times due to the astounding callousness as it relates to trampling the inherent natural rights of Americans, he emphatically indicated that he would use random house to house checks, adding he felt people will welcome random searches if it means capturing a criminal.

Speaking under the condition of anonymity, a local city Police Chief with 30 years experience in law enforcement directly contradicted the Newton County Sheriff?s blatant disregard for privacy & liberty, stating that as an American first, such an action is unconscionable and that his allegiance is to the Indiana and federal Constitutions respectively. However, he also concurred that the ruling does now allow for police to randomly search homes should a department be under order by state or federal officials or under a department?s own accord.

http://smargus.com/indiana-sheriff-i...rches-we-will/

Barry-xlovecam 05-17-2011 08:05 PM

Quote:

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-1272.pdf
KENTUCKY v. KING


The conduct of the police prior to their entry into the apartment was entirely lawful. They did not violate the Fourth Amendment or threaten to do so. In such a situation, the exigent circumstances rule applies.

16.

Occupants who choose not to stand on their constitutional rights but instead elect to attempt to destroy evidence have only themselves to blame for the warrantless exigent-circumstances search that may ensue.
In other words, they forfeited their own constitutional rights by their own actions. Had there not been the attempt to destroy evidence, any evidence would have been gained by an unlawful search and could be ruled not admissible in any proceeding against them.

The ruling was 8 -1 BTW

SDA CASH - Banned for Life AGAIN 05-17-2011 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks (Post 18146312)
It makes you wonder what is next, after all, we are losing our rights slowly but surely.

I have been saying this since 2003 no one will listen until they see it first hand. America is NOW weak ass cowards who will not fight for their rights.
However, we sit and say how cool it is to go into other countries and kill as many as we can, we hile our freedom is being stripped right out from under us.

Fletch XXX 05-17-2011 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDA CASH (Post 18147367)
I have been saying this since 2003 no one will listen until they see it first hand. America is NOW weak ass cowards who will not fight for their rights.
However, we sit and say how cool it is to go into other countries and kill as many as we can, we hile our freedom is being stripped right out from under us.

dont forget that now even basic right to form armed militia is falsehood, any patriot act type of anti terrorism law can be used against ANY AMERICAN MILITIA :2 cents:

PornoMonster 05-17-2011 09:31 PM

tinfoil hat here ....

Why not start taking blood samples at the airport for drug screening?

More TSA Jobs, go me!

PornoMonster 05-17-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDA CASH (Post 18147367)
I have been saying this since 2003 no one will listen until they see it first hand. America is NOW weak ass cowards who will not fight for their rights.
However, we sit and say how cool it is to go into other countries and kill as many as we can, we hile our freedom is being stripped right out from under us.

Im fighting for the right to buy a big mac on food stamps.

jigg 05-18-2011 01:48 AM

where i live now, a previous renter said there was marijuana odor in the hallways, which isn't closed you can see the parking lot and lake on each side, because some neighbors were smoking joints. Someone called the cops and since the hallways are shared the cops went on spree entering apartments - naturally they had to go in and search her apartment as well while trying to figure who the pot smokers were.

No warrant, no anything. Just based on smell cops enter looking for drugs because your neighbors are potheads! Pretty screwed up

onwebcam 05-18-2011 02:08 AM

http://willyloman.files.wordpress.co...e-denver-2.jpg


http://www.worldwidehippies.com/wp-c...tle-vs-wto.jpg

http://www.internationalist.org/seattlecopscwww.JPG

http://thisistheendoftheworldaswekno...lice-State.jpg

http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com...next-camps.jpg


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:57 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc