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seanchai 06-07-2011 10:57 AM

UPDATE FROM CATHY AT SEGPAY:

"Hi Steve,
Just wanted to follow up on t his. We gave the client a choice to clean up the unlicensed content from the tube our to pull our payment pages. If you review the site now, you can see that he opted to move to another payment processor.
Cathy"

Thanks Segpay, good work!!!

If we as an industry can continue to point out to companies issues like this and support the companies that work with integrity (and call out those that don't) then we are on the right path to getting a better adult industry.

Just Alex 06-07-2011 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 18200128)
UPDATE FROM CATHY AT SEGPAY:

"Hi Steve,
Just wanted to follow up on t his. We gave the client a choice to clean up the unlicensed content from the tube our to pull our payment pages. If you review the site now, you can see that he opted to move to another payment processor.
Cathy"

Thanks Segpay, good work!!!

If we as an industry can continue to point out to companies issues like this and support the companies that work with integrity (and call out those that don't) then we are on the right path to getting a better adult industry.

Which would be adult-empire billing platform.
Thief meets another thief.

merina0803 06-07-2011 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crak_jman (Post 18179511)
yeah yeah... You will still come and get a chuckle from time to time.

To me this is wayyy better then tmz :upsidedow

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merina0803 06-07-2011 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18200142)
Which would be adult-empire billing platform.
Thief meets another thief.

cathy is a fucking idiot. she's been busted more times then a crackwhore prostituting.

2MuchMark 06-07-2011 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merina0803 (Post 18200209)
cathy is a fucking idiot. she's been busted more times then a crackwhore prostituting.



Segpay has been processing our sales for a long time now and we have never, ever had a single issue with them. Not only do they pay on time, every time, but they also went out of their way to help us bring new ideas into being which help us create more sales and improve our cashflow.

And now, Cathy & Segpay listened to the adult community and what they had to say in this thread, and they made changes which everyone here agrees is for the better, despite it costing them some business.

Cathy is not a "fucking idiot", merina, you are. You don't have a clue as to what you're talking about, and you don't recognize a good potential business and industry partner when you see it. Then again you are promoting content theft in your own sig so what else would anyone expect from you.

OY 06-07-2011 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18200273)
Segpay has been processing our sales for a long time now and we have never, ever had a single issue with them. Not only do they pay on time, every time, but they also went out of their way to help us bring new ideas into being which help us create more sales and improve our cashflow.

And now, Cathy & Segpay listened to the adult community and what they had to say in this thread, and they made changes which everyone here agrees is for the better, despite it costing them some business.

Cathy is not a "fucking idiot", merina, you are. You don't have a clue as to what you're talking about, and you don't recognize a good potential business and industry partner when you see it. Then again you are promoting content theft in your own sig so what else would anyone expect from you.

Because of posts like this, I miss the Facebook "LIKE" button.

sperbonzo 06-07-2011 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oystein (Post 18200301)
Because of posts like this, I miss the Facebook "LIKE" button.

I always thought this was the button: :thumbsup




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nikki99 06-07-2011 01:23 PM

fuck fuck fuck

garce 06-07-2011 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 18182333)
doesn't - xhamster's free Tube still stream stolen content-
I was just pointing what was the billing for, as some people here seem pretty Clueless.:Oh crap
Why blame AC? they are only providing their WL which is 100% legit.

Section 10 of AC's TOS includes:

Quote:

Customer will be solely responsible for the development, operation and maintenance of the Customer Websites, and for any and all materials that appear on the Customer Websites, or are linked to therefrom. Such responsibilities include, without limitation: the accuracy and propriety of materials posted on the Customer Website; (ii) ensuring that materials posted on the Customer Websites do not violate or infringe upon the rights of any third party and are not defamatory, obscene, libelous, harmful, illegal or otherwise offensive; and (iii) ensuring that the Customer Websites, and all material posted on same, comply with all applicable Laws.
Good to see AC yanked processing. Try getting AEBill to do the same thing - ain't gonna happen.

adultmobile 06-07-2011 03:57 PM

I use SegPay too with no issues from several years, and I know of questionable content being billed by other billers but sure not reporting it there, I reported to the billers each time, what matters is SegPay acted quickly to solve, and I know billers who kept shady stuff for long and long time after being reported.

And I know someone may have worked in ibill before, but well we have epassporte workers working elsewhere too, people who worked in a biller is people with experience in billers and may work in new billers better then who have no experience in that, it does not mean it is their fault if had rogue owners before. I mean Enron failed then all the ex-Enron employees are crap and all companies who hire them will fail because have people from Enron? Had you ever worked very well for bad partners, then they go away without pay you AND customers, so all the companies where you will work again should be blacklisted, what a logic is that?

About a biller being used in tubes... Several guys scroll down the page skipping my merchant acct who is in top, to click on segpay because they know it and used it before (maybe on videosz or adultcentro or whatever tube vod, no idea), same goes for Epoch which is way lower in list but very known as its secondary pay for streamate, myfreecams and half world. Actually someone ask me for CCbill form too because they used it before, but I have not it (triple fees and double hold ratio of my merchant acct...), the users write "I will put my credit card only in ccbill page, nothing else", some of them.

I mean if a biller (who pay and no issues for years) is used in many sites, or in big sites, that's good for your site too because more guys will trust such pay page, it's like a brand, so if a biller would bill for big tubes or for VOD's of big tubes, then guys coming from there (I run cams and my traffic comes from... tubes?) would have less doubts if put own CC number in your pay page as that's same page they used before with no issue, and no need contaminate own card with more fancy biller names. So I have like 5 billers to choice from and everyone choice one they used to buy whatever, if in a tube I don't much care myself, as I buy traffic from there anyway.

seanchai 07-04-2011 11:42 PM

Way to go Segpay.

Last month you were helping sell a tube site, now you are in bed with file lockers (Filesonic and Wupload). Did you think this was going un-noticed, do you have no due diligence or are you simply happy to steal from the very people whom you try to promote to by buying advertising in Xbiz, going to shows, etc.?

SERIOUSLY - YOU GUYS FUCKING SUCK - and anyone doing biz with you should stop.

There is NO other reason for file lockers to exist other than to allow stolen content to be uploaded and pirates to profit from it. With a tiny (and tightening) loophole in the law, they profit from other peoples content from adult, through software, music and films. So YOU SEGPAY also profit from this wholesale theft of our content!

Xbiz Company of the Year? What a joke.

I'm buying the custard pies for the next show you turn up to.

DWB 07-05-2011 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 18260851)
Way to go Segpay.

Last month you were helping sell a tube site, now you are in bed with file lockers (Filesonic and Wupload). Did you think this was going un-noticed, do you have no due diligence or are you simply happy to steal from the very people whom you try to promote to by buying advertising in Xbiz, going to shows, etc.?

SERIOUSLY - YOU GUYS FUCKING SUCK - and anyone doing biz with you should stop.

There is NO other reason for file lockers to exist other than to allow stolen content to be uploaded and pirates to profit from it. With a tiny (and tightening) loophole in the law, they profit from other peoples content from adult, through software, music and films. So YOU SEGPAY also profit from this wholesale theft of our content!
.

:2 cents::2 cents:

Hey, that's a nice avatar you have.

seanchai 07-05-2011 03:54 AM

Yeah thought you'd like that.

In memoriam RIP!

CamTraffic 07-14-2011 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 18260851)
Way to go Segpay.

Last month you were helping sell a tube site, now you are in bed with file lockers (Filesonic and Wupload). Did you think this was going un-noticed, do you have no due diligence or are you simply happy to steal from the very people whom you try to promote to by buying advertising in Xbiz, going to shows, etc.?

SERIOUSLY - YOU GUYS FUCKING SUCK - and anyone doing biz with you should stop.

There is NO other reason for file lockers to exist other than to allow stolen content to be uploaded and pirates to profit from it. With a tiny (and tightening) loophole in the law, they profit from other peoples content from adult, through software, music and films. So YOU SEGPAY also profit from this wholesale theft of our content!

Xbiz Company of the Year? What a joke.

I'm buying the custard pies for the next show you turn up to.

Interesting, needs a bump for sure -

topnotch, standup guy 07-25-2011 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 18281419)
Interesting, needs a bump for sure -

And another bump.

What the fuck is up Segpay?

will76 07-25-2011 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18200273)

Cathy is not a "fucking idiot", merina, you are. You don't have a clue as to what you're talking about, and you don't recognize a good potential business and industry partner when you see it. Then again you are promoting content theft in your own sig so what else would anyone expect from you.

I know exactly who Cathy is, the person who worked at Ibill for many years and was the CEO the last couple when things fell apart. During which time we were promised to receive the money owed and asked to continue sending in sales and signing bullshit agreements. All the while, she knew we would never see a penny. You can't claim ignorance when you are the CEO.

You can reference your current experiences working with her, I will keep my older ones. Fuck me once and I wont give you an opportunity to do it a second time.

adultmobile 09-09-2011 12:33 PM

Anyway have you checked all the file sharing and tubes?
http://www.filesonic.com/premium , click Credit Card , goes to ccbill, and there is pretty much of dvdrip's and pdf's:

http://www.free-ebook-download.net/m...ne-2011-a.html

http://www.free-ebook-download.net/a...er-2011-a.html

DWB 09-09-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 18415436)
Anyway have you checked all the file sharing and tubes?
http://www.filesonic.com/premium , click Credit Card , goes to ccbill, and there is pretty much of dvdrip's and pdf's:

http://www.free-ebook-download.net/m...ne-2011-a.html

http://www.free-ebook-download.net/a...er-2011-a.html

Very disappointing. :Oh crap

Segpay give them the boot then CCbill pick them up?

Boggles the mind how a these sites pass "visa rules" when they apply for an account, because CCbill will flag a site over the dumbest shit imaginable, then turn around and process for cyber lockers who provide downloads to not only stolen intellectual property, but to child porn too. And everyone knows this. It defies logic.

spunky99 09-09-2011 08:17 PM

send your dmca's to ccbill as well

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-09-2011 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18306050)

I know exactly who Cathy is, the person who worked at Ibill for many years and was the CEO the last couple when things fell apart. During which time we were promised to receive the money owed and asked to continue sending in sales and signing bullshit agreements. All the while, she knew we would never see a penny. You can't claim ignorance when you are the CEO.

You can reference your current experiences working with her, I will keep my older ones. Fuck me once and I wont give you an opportunity to do it a second time.

I wonder if Cathy/Segpay can help me get the $30k+ that iBill still owes me and promised to pay (they even sent me a promissory note), but so far they've failed to make good on it. :upsidedow

Before I could ever trust anybody that worked with iBill, I would need to hear their mea culpa, and get the facts that they know about who specifically was responsible for ripping us off, and where the money went (Penthouse/AFF?).

Otherwise, how could they be trusted to not do the same type of thing again?

ADG

RycEric 09-09-2011 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunky99 (Post 18416440)
send your dmca's to ccbill as well

Thanks Spunky. Good idea but I would recommend folks check with an attorney before doing that. Also, it's a good way to get spam canned in a hurry. If any real lawyers read this, please :2 cents: We are checking on this as well.

spunky99 09-09-2011 09:12 PM

done it before, it works

RycEric 09-09-2011 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunky99 (Post 18416485)
done it before, it works

Not that I don't believe you but I'd like something a little more solid.

CamTraffic 09-12-2011 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 18415436)
Anyway have you checked all the file sharing and tubes?
http://www.filesonic.com/premium , click Credit Card , goes to ccbill, and there is pretty much of dvdrip's and pdf's:

http://www.free-ebook-download.net/m...ne-2011-a.html

http://www.free-ebook-download.net/a...er-2011-a.html

wtf :Oh crap:Oh crap:Oh crap:Oh crap

Coup 09-12-2011 04:43 AM

I wonder what Visa and Mastercard has to say about a biller facilitating a content theft site. ask them... in the form of cease and desist orders.

Paul Markham 09-12-2011 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellShocked (Post 18177080)
This industry is so funny.

Segpay = IBill (same people new name)

This industry has a long history of taking the short term profit to fuck the long term profit.

The solution is simple, make sure you don't do business with Segpay or Commercegate or a company that processes with them. Will or might hurt the short term, will ensure your long term.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18420868)
I wonder what Visa and Mastercard has to say about a biller facilitating a content theft site. ask them... in the form of cease and desist orders.

They have no problem with Paypal who bill for a lot of stolen content or items.

Dappz 09-12-2011 07:21 AM

um they are cool and hot.... well let their Karma get them.....

F-U-Jimmy 09-12-2011 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18420868)
I wonder what Visa and Mastercard has to say about a biller facilitating a content theft site. ask them... in the form of cease and desist orders.

Done and done


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