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Nathan 05-30-2011 11:21 AM

AK, not many as far as I can see... and we have a clear repeat infringer policy, usually the same person would upload it again, so they would be quickly banned.

We are looking at ways to tag videos and recognize if they get re-uploaded, but do not have anything definite yet as far as I know.

DWB 05-30-2011 11:31 AM

AdultKing, I did the same thing you are thinking. I hosted with a company in the Netherlands who didn't give a shit about DMCA law. Then I paid a team of Filipinos to upload Brazzers and Mofo videos day and night. Must have been 1000s of scenes.

Then I bought a ton of traffic, got the usual sponsors, popped up webcams , you name it.

And you want to know what happened? Manwin bought the host and shut the site down.

So you wanna know what I did? I fucking moved it to another host. :thumbsup

Then Manwin bought that one too and shut the site down again.

I figured third time is a charm, so I hosted it in China. I figured for starters, they don't allow porn but since I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Chow, I figured we could make it happen and it would be untouchable.

Guess what happened?

Yup. Manwin bought them too. But did they shut the site down? No, they shut the whole host down AND told the Chinese authorities about the operation and the guys went to prison for 7 years each. Poor Chow.

To put it into perspective, do you think an army of piss ants who built a colony under a super highway even knows that super highway exists? They don't. It is too huge for them to even know it's there. So they just go on about their piss ant business oblivious to what is happening above them. But every now and then those piss ants climb up on the highway by mistake can get squished.

My point is, they are a steamroller driving full speed on a super highway and you are a piss ant. And collectively, we are an army of piss ants standing in the face of this steamroller up on a super highway.

And I know what you're thinking. You're thinking that while a piss ant may not know about the super highway, he may know about the steamroller. Right? I thought the same thing and boy was I wrong. Because what Chow and I found out was... they own the super highway AND a fleet of steamrollers. So not only do we not even know that the super highway is there, but on it is not just one steamroller, but an army of steamrollers. And you know what they are doing? They are running over piss ants who are busy looking for some sugar or a rotten apple to eat.

Nathan can confirm my story is true.

FREE CHOW! :2 cents:

GonZo 05-30-2011 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18177512)
AdultKing, I did the same thing you are thinking. I hosted with a company in the Netherlands who didn't give a shit about DMCA law. Then I paid a team of Filipinos to upload Brazzers and Mofo videos day and night. Must have been 1000s of scenes.

Then I bought a ton of traffic, got the usual sponsors, popped up webcams , you name it.

And you want to know what happened? Manwin bought the host and shut the site down.

So you wanna know what I did? I fucking moved it to another host. :thumbsup

Then Manwin bought that one too and shut the site down again.

I figured third time is a charm, so I hosted it in China. I figured for starters, they don't allow porn but since I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Chow, I figured we could make it happen and it would be untouchable.

Guess what happened?

Yup. Manwin bought them too. But did they shut the site down? No, they shut the whole host down AND told the Chinese authorities about the operation and the guys went to prison for 7 years each. Poor Chow.

To put it into perspective, do you think an army of piss ants who built a colony under a super highway even knows that super highway exists? They don't. It is too huge for them to even know it's there. So they just go on about their piss ant business oblivious to what is happening above them. But every now and then those piss ants climb up on the highway by mistake can get squished.

My point is, they are a steamroller driving full speed on a super highway and you are a piss ant. And collectively, we are an army of piss ants standing in the face of this steamroller up on a super highway.

And I know what you're thinking. You're thinking that while a piss ant may not know about the super highway, he may know about the steamroller. Right? I thought the same thing and boy was I wrong. Because what Chow and I found out was... they own the super highway AND a fleet of steamrollers. So not only do we not even know that the super highway is there, but on it is not just one steamroller, but an army of steamrollers. And you know what they are doing? They are running over piss ants who are busy looking for some sugar or a rotten apple to eat.

Nathan can confirm my story is true.

FREE CHOW! :2 cents:

Gimmick infrindgement...

FREE CHOW ! ! !

ReggieDurango 05-30-2011 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18177512)
I figured third time is a charm, so I hosted it in China. I figured for starters, they don't allow porn but since I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Chow, I figured we could make it happen and it would be untouchable.

Guess what happened?

Yup. Manwin bought them too. But did they shut the site down? No, they shut the whole host down AND told the Chinese authorities about the operation and the guys went to prison for 7 years each. Poor Chow.
FREE CHOW! :2 cents:

No Way, there is some asian dude named Chow in jail right now? Really? I'm usually gullible, but this seems extreme.
If it is true, do you feel bad for Chow? Like partly responsible? It's like living with the guilt of a drunk driving accident where you hit someone with your car and they became paralyzed. Ok not really, but damn son, 7 years????

GonZo 05-30-2011 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 18177533)
son, 7 years????

Gimmick infringement on 12clicks.

SON, FREE CHOW ! ! !

cooldude7 05-30-2011 11:49 AM

start a tube and when u get popular , sell it to them , its the one way .

or keep changing hosts......

DWB 05-30-2011 11:59 AM

Free chow!

JustDaveXxx 05-30-2011 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18177512)
AdultKing, I did the same thing you are thinking. I hosted with a company in the Netherlands who didn't give a shit about DMCA law. Then I paid a team of Filipinos to upload Brazzers and Mofo videos day and night. Must have been 1000s of scenes.

Then I bought a ton of traffic, got the usual sponsors, popped up webcams , you name it.

And you want to know what happened? Manwin bought the host and shut the site down.

So you wanna know what I did? I fucking moved it to another host. :thumbsup

Then Manwin bought that one too and shut the site down again.

I figured third time is a charm, so I hosted it in China. I figured for starters, they don't allow porn but since I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Chow, I figured we could make it happen and it would be untouchable.

Guess what happened?

Yup. Manwin bought them too. But did they shut the site down? No, they shut the whole host down AND told the Chinese authorities about the operation and the guys went to prison for 7 years each. Poor Chow.

To put it into perspective, do you think an army of piss ants who built a colony under a super highway even knows that super highway exists? They don't. It is too huge for them to even know it's there. So they just go on about their piss ant business oblivious to what is happening above them. But every now and then those piss ants climb up on the highway by mistake can get squished.

My point is, they are a steamroller driving full speed on a super highway and you are a piss ant. And collectively, we are an army of piss ants standing in the face of this steamroller up on a super highway.

And I know what you're thinking. You're thinking that while a piss ant may not know about the super highway, he may know about the steamroller. Right? I thought the same thing and boy was I wrong. Because what Chow and I found out was... they own the super highway AND a fleet of steamrollers. So not only do we not even know that the super highway is there, but on it is not just one steamroller, but an army of steamrollers. And you know what they are doing? They are running over piss ants who are busy looking for some sugar or a rotten apple to eat.

Nathan can confirm my story is true.

FREE CHOW! :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


I just spit my coffee on my screen. That is way too funny!!



I know this isn't popular, but you are better off politely and respectfully engaging Nathan/Manwin and see what you can do business wise "today" to further your business or stay in business. Yelling, screaming and complaining about who did what when, wont help you out "today."


Manwin is here and are not going anywhere. All bullshit aside I know that there are a lot of site owners working with Manwin and are using the tube traffic to get sales. Its turing into an affiliate/sponsor relationship that seems to be working.


Not ass kissing, just stating a fact that is relevant "today". So you can make nice with the 800 pound gorilla or get eaten by it. The choice is yours.:2 cents:

19teenporn 05-30-2011 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18177344)
Good, you won't mind if it happens then. I have already had 4 icq's offering help if we go through with the idea.

And don't you think this thread id enough proof to put you in the slammer?

JFK 05-30-2011 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18177561)
Free chow!

whaccha serving , it's lunch time ?

JFK 05-30-2011 12:09 PM

Fitty Attacks

Harmon 05-30-2011 12:09 PM

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GonZo 05-30-2011 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harmon (Post 18177602)

son, free chow now ! ! !

DWB 05-30-2011 12:35 PM

http://boldbodyart.com/images/chow.jpg

BAKO 05-30-2011 01:24 PM

This has to be the biggest fail thread of all time lol

Dirty Dane 05-30-2011 02:20 PM

Manwin only content is not their game.

Adraco 05-30-2011 02:26 PM

Free Chow!

will76 05-30-2011 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18177352)

Our brazzers division is DMCAing our tube division all the time


WTF, Congrats on DMCA'ing yourself. :upsidedow:upsidedow:upsidedow:upsidedow:warning


what an idiot.

SexyVan 05-30-2011 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18177451)
It's not just my tube division that I am expanding, it's also my paysite division, as you will relatively soon see...

:):upsidedow:):upsidedow:)

MaDalton 05-30-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SexyVan (Post 18177893)
:):upsidedow:):upsidedow:)

so Manwin has bought Twistys? :glugglug

Shap 05-30-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18177895)
so Manwin has bought Twistys? :glugglug

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Van is such a whore he'll do anything (and anyone) to get a link on youporn.

MaDalton 05-30-2011 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18177921)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Van is such a whore he'll do anything (and anyone) to get a link on youporn.

now that the rumor is out you can do nothing but surrender and sell :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 05-30-2011 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan
It's not just my tube division that I am expanding, it's also my paysite division, as you will relatively soon see...

Are you coming out with something different than what's on 1,000s of other sites and on Tubes by different people. Or the same old stuff that's been done to death, wrapping it up in bright new packaging and marketing that it's all brand new?

The future for online porn is one of continual decline.

The problem is today partly a lot of traffic is going to the major Tubes and others are losing it. But they turn 1-1,000 ratios into 1-2,000 ratios as more and more customers decide not to buy.

We've seen this for years. Manwin, Piracy, Free Porn, it's all the same. A reason not to spend money on porn.

All Manwin will do is pick up what's left of a failing industry. If Manwin is increasing it's over heads that's not a wise thing to do in an industry that's declining.

Please don't tell me it's not. We all know otherwise. Make your money while you can. Then retire or go into mainstream.

papill0n 05-30-2011 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18177932)
Are you coming out with something different than what's on 1,000s of other sites and on Tubes by different people. Or the same old stuff that's been done to death, wrapping it up in bright new packaging and marketing that it's all brand new?

The future for online porn is one of continual decline.

The problem is today partly a lot of traffic is going to the major Tubes and others are losing it. But they turn 1-1,000 ratios into 1-2,000 ratios as more and more customers decide not to buy.

We've seen this for years. Manwin, Piracy, Free Porn, it's all the same. A reason not to spend money on porn.

All Manwin will do is pick up what's left of a failing industry. If Manwin is increasing it's over heads that's not a wise thing to do in an industry that's declining.

Please don't tell me it's not. We all know otherwise. Make your money while you can. Then retire or go into mainstream.


YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT PAUL

Youre a broke idiot doing his own ironing.

Manwin are a multi million dollar company.

See the difference? See why you giving anyone business advice is a fucking joke mate?

cess 05-30-2011 03:00 PM

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Nathan 05-30-2011 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18177921)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Van is such a whore he'll do anything (and anyone) to get a link on youporn.

Now you are fucked Shap.. you have no choice.. if you do not sell, everyone will say that you are just hiding the fact that you actually DID sell and you are another figure head to the old owners of Mansef. If you do sell everyone will say you sold out to the evil beast manwin! :)

Oh which one to chose...

zeuse 05-30-2011 03:05 PM

When Paul Markham posts, the frustrated trolls crawl from their moms box rooms and troll their hearts out.

Nathan 05-30-2011 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18177512)
AdultKing, I did the same thing you are thinking. I hosted with a company in the Netherlands who didn't give a shit about DMCA law. Then I paid a team of Filipinos to upload Brazzers and Mofo videos day and night. Must have been 1000s of scenes.

Then I bought a ton of traffic, got the usual sponsors, popped up webcams , you name it.

And you want to know what happened? Manwin bought the host and shut the site down.

So you wanna know what I did? I fucking moved it to another host. :thumbsup

Then Manwin bought that one too and shut the site down again.

I figured third time is a charm, so I hosted it in China. I figured for starters, they don't allow porn but since I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Chow, I figured we could make it happen and it would be untouchable.

Guess what happened?

Yup. Manwin bought them too. But did they shut the site down? No, they shut the whole host down AND told the Chinese authorities about the operation and the guys went to prison for 7 years each. Poor Chow.

To put it into perspective, do you think an army of piss ants who built a colony under a super highway even knows that super highway exists? They don't. It is too huge for them to even know it's there. So they just go on about their piss ant business oblivious to what is happening above them. But every now and then those piss ants climb up on the highway by mistake can get squished.

My point is, they are a steamroller driving full speed on a super highway and you are a piss ant. And collectively, we are an army of piss ants standing in the face of this steamroller up on a super highway.

And I know what you're thinking. You're thinking that while a piss ant may not know about the super highway, he may know about the steamroller. Right? I thought the same thing and boy was I wrong. Because what Chow and I found out was... they own the super highway AND a fleet of steamrollers. So not only do we not even know that the super highway is there, but on it is not just one steamroller, but an army of steamrollers. And you know what they are doing? They are running over piss ants who are busy looking for some sugar or a rotten apple to eat.

Nathan can confirm my story is true.

FREE CHOW! :2 cents:

I love you DWB! This made my day...

Best story ever...

FREE CHOW!

Shap 05-30-2011 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18177960)
Now you are fucked Shap.. you have no choice.. if you do not sell, everyone will say that you are just hiding the fact that you actually DID sell and you are another figure head to the old owners of Mansef. If you do sell everyone will say you sold out to the evil beast manwin! :)

Oh which one to chose...

I hadn't thought of it that way. It looks like I don't have much choice. Let's talk I guess.

halfpint 05-30-2011 03:16 PM

Never heard of Manwin ..who are they ?

will76 05-30-2011 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18177352)
AdultKing, do you seriously think nobody is trading our content and uploading it to tubes???

Our brazzers division is DMCAing our tube division all the time, just like we send out 100 dmca notices to other sites every single day.

It's a part of doing business, it's the way the law works.

We follow all the rules, if you think the way to "beat us at our own game" is to BREAK dmca rules and upload our content to your own sites, do it. It will just get you sued. And you WILL lose, wherever you host it.

blah blah... he doesn't have to upload your content to his site, all he has to do is allow a user submitted function and make fake users and then pay some indians to upload through those user accounts then its all legit.... once the site gets going he wont have to do even that, just leave the user submit function wide open and enough people will do the dirty work for him and it will be all legal. then you cant sue him. :thumbsup

Nathan 05-30-2011 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18177968)
I hadn't thought of it that way. It looks like I don't have much choice. Let's talk I guess.

Awesome! eMail me...

Thx MaDalton :)

Nathan 05-30-2011 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18177982)
blah blah... he doesn't have to upload your content to his site, all he has to do is allow a user submitted function and make fake users and then pay some indians to upload through those user accounts then its all legit.... once the site gets going he wont have to do even that, just leave the user submit function wide open and enough people will do the dirty work for him and it will be all legal. then you cant sue him. :thumbsup

will76, as gideon pointed out... if he hides in a country and does not follow DMCA, he loses safe harbor, and I can sue him. If he follows DMCA, I really do not care since then I can get all the content removed...

I really do not get the problem here...

AdultKing 05-30-2011 03:34 PM

It's been interesting the number of old posters here coming out of the woodwork and hitting me up on ICQ interested in this whole idea. I'm not sure we'll do it, but the concept has certainly got some pretty successful people awfully interested.

And with that, I'm off to bed.

AdultKing 05-30-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18178003)
will76, as gideon pointed out... if he hides in a country and does not follow DMCA, he loses safe harbor, and I can sue him. If he follows DMCA, I really do not care since then I can get all the content removed...

I really do not get the problem here...

You are thick as fuck Nathan, you can sue me til the cows come home, but there's nothing for you to take. Do you think I would allow my interests to be exposed ? There is nothing to take but the shirt off my back, my dog and my cat. US laws don't apply to me unless I operate there somehow. There are plenty of places that one can avoid your pointless suits. It seems that you're almost daring me to prove to you that I can fuck you the way you fuck everyone else who does an honest days work in this biz.

halfpint 05-30-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18177982)
blah blah... he doesn't have to upload your content to his site, all he has to do is allow a user submitted function and make fake users and then pay some indians to upload through those user accounts then its all legit.... once the site gets going he wont have to do even that, just leave the user submit function wide open and enough people will do the dirty work for him and it will be all legal. then you cant sue him. :thumbsup

U dont even need Idians to do it. I quickly found out by the amount of videos being submitted by users on a tube which i used to own. If you have a social tube site it very quickly picks up momentum and gets listed very quickly in places like the OV Guide, vidohe.com, fileshare.ws (now shutdown lol) and a load of other places. Sufers want the tubes and there is nothing nobody can do about it :2 cents:

Nathan 05-30-2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18178007)
You are thick as fuck Nathan, you can sue me til the cows come home, but there's nothing for you to take. Do you think I would allow my interests to be exposed ? There is nothing to take but the shirt off my back, my dog and my cat.

That's ok AK.. do whatever you think you can or find wise....

Obviously we know your remarks about how so many people came to you that liked the idea is complete bullshit and just trying to "scare" me...

I am shivering...

Sleep well.

gideongallery 05-30-2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18178003)
will76, as gideon pointed out... if he hides in a country and does not follow DMCA, he loses safe harbor, and I can sue him. If he follows DMCA, I really do not care since then I can get all the content removed...

I really do not get the problem here...

jesus christ your a fast typer

i was going to point this out and you beat me to it

Nathan 05-30-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18178007)
It seems that you're almost daring me to prove to you that I can fuck you the way you fuck everyone else who does an honest days work in this biz.

It seems? Uhm.. I _SPECIFICALLY_ said in my first post: "I dare you!"...

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