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Fantastic idea, and one I considered as doable - back in 2007, when I knew shit. LOL
Of course Adult King, you know tons more and are just thinking outside the box. "Problem" is (it's only a problem to some, to others it's an opportunity) is once market share is reached, a certain GIANT percentage of market share, the rest is quibbling. Manwin now has that market share. Coca-Cola Microsoft Manwin Is there room for Pepsi, Apple, etc? Sure - but you gotta have MILLIONS to compete on that level, again, once mass market share is attained. Manwin has that market share now. |
In 1989 a bloke by the name of Kerry Packer tried to sue us, he lost. It was actually a pretty similar situation. Big mammoth against little old us.
Some smart cookie here has already pointed out your problem of choosing jurisdiction. Let me spell it out for you, I am an Australian citizen, anything I do which is legal in another jurisdiction has no interest to Australian law, neither would US law apply as all this talk of DMCA and Safeharbour is greek to me. The problem is magnified if some offshore company owned by a group of other entities actually did the job. Then the only thing you'd get if you could even sue at all, would be the assets of the company because it would be the legal entity you may be able to sue. Of course, as any good Phoenix knows, you just rise from the ashes while your opponent burns themselves to death wasting cash suing something with no value, therefore you might get a judgement but no actual enforcement. I think you underestimate me Nathan, I do not lie, I am straight up with everyone in this business and all business, even my opponents. I have had some quite interesting contacts from people over this idea, you can believe what you want, I don't care. Will I get this done ? I don't know. However I think I have found your one weak spot, your one little vulnerability and that makes me happy. |
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Nathan are you still paying Nucleus? haha ;) Whatever happened to Washiez, TheJimmy and Reverend?
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Good luck with this, id love to see it happen
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i have already proven that was false by posting a video that was still up even though the parent account was taken down. |
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TheJimmy got out of adult a long time ago. |
This thread has HUGE potential, necessity breeds invention.
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"When the winds of change blow, some people build walls and others build windmills..."
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I signed up to several manwin tubes under several nicks. I tried uploading content. I uploaded both legal and illegal content. The legal content never made it to the surfer. The illegal did. So somebody screened my video uploads and instead of blocking water marked, clearly illegal content they let it go through. The 6 to 8 minute stuff was all scrubbed. Hmmmmm?
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If you want to compete or affect their business, start a tube and keep it constantly updated with content from all over the net. The content harvesting must be done indiscriminately though, like they do. Then put aside a whole lot of cash for staff, servers, bandwidth, litigation, and see where the chips fall. |
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To keep the safe harbor, not only must they ban the infringer, they must also not have actual knowledge of the videos (with or without DMCA notices), and they must act upon obvious or suspected infringements. |
my advice is be sure the content is user uploaded.
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Butterfly. Your knowledge of business is a prime example of why this business is sliding down a slippery slope. Multi million dollar businesses go broke all the time. The porn industry used to be a multi billion dollar industry, whats the odds of it still being that? We all know it's gone down. Customers decide the fate of a company. At the moment Manwin spend a lot of money teaching surfers not a multi million dollar company teaching surfers not to pay for porn. YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT http://fohn.net/monarch-butterfly-pi...rfly_large.jpg |
Butterfly isn't the only idiot in this thread. Sad reflection of the business. :(
A. Putting up a site with 10,000 full length videos of which the core could be anyone's is simple. The problem is affording it. Unless you get a some people to pay the hosting, BW, labor costs. You're losing money. Big time. Fabian might have a clue what his hosting bill is, but I suspect it's another thing delegated to others that he doesn't know. :disgust Of course asking anyone doing business with Manwin to support you or get them to advertise isn't going to get a great response. B. Suing someone for doing something not illegal in their home country isn't easy or cheap. And the success of it would leave you with what? A line of people doing exactly the same thing and not posting on GFY. In fact people who you might find tough to track down. Acacia who were a team of lawyers couldn't sue me in Czech. Because Czech hadn't signed up to the patent law they were using. Then you need to prove AdultKing actually did the deed and not just the man who came up with the original idea. How do you intend to do that? What experience do you have of doing this Fabian? C. DWB's post about Manwin buying up servers. That could cripple them. How many servers would they need to buy if people adopted the idea? D. Manwin's position as the biggest in the business, if based on Tube traffic, isn't going to mean squat in time. Tubes are just another costly tool to teach people not to pay for porn. Something online porn has been very successful at. So who ever you are Tubes are going to teach more and more customers not to pay for porn. If there success is based on what's inside their sites, then I'm amazed. Because what's inside their sites isn't that good. As I showed when I did the reviews of some of the scenes. Got this bit wrong in my last post. Quote:
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And far more relevant to online porn than the old Chinese one. :thumbsup |
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Wouldn't step one of successfully attacking anyone about anything in any way be: Not posting on GFY that you are considering doing it?
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"Will I get this done ? I don't know." Then you wont get it done.
Question is, when you ask yourself why you tried in the first place, what will the answer be? Here, take a cookie, soon you'll feel right as rain. :2 cents: Almost every torrent/tube starts out as a one man job. Just do it and let it be done. Once you put your idea into ACTION others will follow, that's how this industry works. |
You will only support them this way.
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Squirtit. Let's face it most Tube sites are STILL one man bands and will always be one man bands. The reasons are simple.
How much full length scenes does it take to get the massive traffic the top division have built over the years. How much money will be made from advertising during the time building the traffic. And will it cover the hosting bill? I would estimate that it would need a dedicated server and the cost would be high for the BW at the start. As the traffic grows, then the price gets better. Or invest in at least 2 servers and take a deal that will allow you to use more BW than you burn and invest the money until the traffic starts to STICK. Getting and keeping traffic with 3-5 minute clips only isn't going to cut it. People want 20 minute clips. Then ratios plummet. So you're stuck between a rock and a hard place. If I were Fabian I wouldn't bother to threaten AK, I would let him know what the investment is to go into competition with Pornhub. SmokeyTheBear, is nearly right. Quote:
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I'm commander Shepard and this is my favorite store on the citadel.
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what ever happened to the good old days when you just had your enemies murdered...
you guys are a bunch of pussies.... if you want to get rid of Manwin, take up a collection for some wet work... :2 cents: . |
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Had a lovely lunch with my friends, who happen to be my laywers today, I had Salmon and some really nice cheesecake for desert. Was a great way to spend a sunny Melbourne lunch time, nice to catch up with old friends.
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We are all just one law away from extinction.
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alas, no one wants to do anything, just complain.... :2 cents: . |
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