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ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-30-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18177960)
Now you are fucked Shap.. you have no choice.. if you do not sell, everyone will say that you are just hiding the fact that you actually DID sell and you are another figure head to the old owners of Mansef. If you do sell everyone will say you sold out to the evil beast manwin! :)

Oh which one to chose...

http://www.ialien.com/ponies/srs.jpg

merina0803 05-30-2011 03:46 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh this subject always sends fabian packing. :thumbsup

MaDalton 05-30-2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18178001)
Awesome! eMail me...

Thx MaDalton :)

i'll send you my account information :winkwink:

JFK 05-30-2011 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18178001)
Awesome! eMail me...

Thx MaDalton :)

and they say there is no business to be done on GFY :winkwink:

Nathan 05-30-2011 03:50 PM

ADG, lol.. you never learn...

At least go with the times and figure out something NEW to build a conspiracy theory around, not always the same old stuff...

I am still waiting to be arrested btw...

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-30-2011 03:52 PM

ADG = Village idiot.

Nathan 05-30-2011 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18178040)
i'll send you my account information :winkwink:

Hehe...

Any more good ideas? :)

Got some fresh money to launder and nowhere to put it! LOL

Nathan 05-30-2011 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18178056)
Yes, and a thread I've been actually enjoying..with threats of lawsuits etc..sure beats cutting the grass..

I'm happy I can entertain people. :)

MaDalton 05-30-2011 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18178054)
Hehe...

Any more good ideas? :)

Got some fresh money to launder and nowhere to put it! LOL

sure, send me $10 Million, i'll send you an invoice for consulting. After that no one will ever hear from me again :1orglaugh

Dirty Dane 05-30-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18178003)
will76, as gideon pointed out... if he hides in a country and does not follow DMCA, he loses safe harbor, and I can sue him. If he follows DMCA, I really do not care since then I can get all the content removed...

I really do not get the problem here...

The problem arise when someone "else" "upload" the same content repeatedly.

Phoenix 05-30-2011 04:10 PM

nathan...check out our feeds :)
we can be used anywhere





if you can't beat them....try to join them folks

like it or not, they have won...now try to make money with them

SZNY 05-30-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18177512)
I figured third time is a charm, so I hosted it in China. I figured for starters, they don't allow porn but since I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Chow, I figured we could make it happen and it would be untouchable.

Guess what happened?

Yup. Manwin bought them too. But did they shut the site down? No, they shut the whole host down AND told the Chinese authorities about the operation and the guys went to prison for 7 years each. Poor Chow.

FREE CHOW! :2 cents:

So because of you Chow is now having a love relation with his right or left hand for the upcoming 7 yrs?

Man if that is the case I really hope you take care of that guy and probably his family

SexyVan 05-30-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18177921)
Van is such a whore he'll do anything (and anyone) to get a link on youporn.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
It's what makes me the best sale guy ever!!!:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Dirty Dane 05-30-2011 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18178003)
will76, as gideon pointed out... if he hides in a country and does not follow DMCA, he loses safe harbor, and I can sue him. If he follows DMCA, I really do not care since then I can get all the content removed...

Btw, aren't you based Canadian/European? Why would a foreign court care about US laws if none of you were located in US jurisdiction?

Dirty Dane 05-30-2011 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18178096)
Hint: The money is coming from where? ............

The surfers? Doesn't matter where the money coming from. It's not USA vs. the infringer, but Manwin vs. infringer. Civil case.

merina0803 05-30-2011 04:39 PM

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DirtyDanza 05-30-2011 04:48 PM

Nathan seems to run a good biz and changed the way of the net...


now my only question is Nathan .. can I please have some traffic? pretty please? I mean just a small link in the network somewhere you won't even notice and it would mean the world to a small time guy like myself...

you know I convert :)

JFK 05-30-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18178059)
I'm happy I can entertain people. :)

when is your next show ? :Graucho

troncarver 05-30-2011 05:51 PM

That sig whoring is really getting old JFK just garbage at top of every page

Phoenix 05-30-2011 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 18178170)
Nathan seems to run a good biz and changed the way of the net...


now my only question is Nathan .. can I please have some traffic? pretty please? I mean just a small link in the network somewhere you won't even notice and it would mean the world to a small time guy like myself...

you know I convert :)

i am pretty sure you can buy their traffic
give it a shot
start with 1000...and then keep on doubling it

Seth Manson 05-30-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18177314)
I might need some help logistically, how about a coalition of the willing ?

Your plan failed right there.

Two things you will never accomplish in life:
1. Getting people in this industry to all work together on anything
2. See #1

The Porn Nerd 05-30-2011 08:10 PM

Fantastic idea, and one I considered as doable - back in 2007, when I knew shit. LOL

Of course Adult King, you know tons more and are just thinking outside the box. "Problem" is (it's only a problem to some, to others it's an opportunity) is once market share is reached, a certain GIANT percentage of market share, the rest is quibbling. Manwin now has that market share.

Coca-Cola
Microsoft
Manwin

Is there room for Pepsi, Apple, etc? Sure - but you gotta have MILLIONS to compete on that level, again, once mass market share is attained. Manwin has that market share now.

AdultKing 05-30-2011 08:52 PM

In 1989 a bloke by the name of Kerry Packer tried to sue us, he lost. It was actually a pretty similar situation. Big mammoth against little old us.

Some smart cookie here has already pointed out your problem of choosing jurisdiction.

Let me spell it out for you, I am an Australian citizen, anything I do which is legal in another jurisdiction has no interest to Australian law, neither would US law apply as all this talk of DMCA and Safeharbour is greek to me.

The problem is magnified if some offshore company owned by a group of other entities actually did the job. Then the only thing you'd get if you could even sue at all, would be the assets of the company because it would be the legal entity you may be able to sue.

Of course, as any good Phoenix knows, you just rise from the ashes while your opponent burns themselves to death wasting cash suing something with no value, therefore you might get a judgement but no actual enforcement.

I think you underestimate me Nathan, I do not lie, I am straight up with everyone in this business and all business, even my opponents. I have had some quite interesting contacts from people over this idea, you can believe what you want, I don't care.

Will I get this done ? I don't know. However I think I have found your one weak spot, your one little vulnerability and that makes me happy.

Half man, Half Amazing 05-30-2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18177490)
AK, not many as far as I can see... and we have a clear repeat infringer policy, usually the same person would upload it again, so they would be quickly banned.

Don't leave out the part where all the other videos that repeat infringer has uploaded get moved to your in-house "anonymous" account. Unlike sites with a REAL repeat infringer policies where ALL videos uploaded by a repeat infringer get removed.

You wanna be so transparent but yet you leave out huge details like that. Funny huh?

will76 05-30-2011 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by troncarver (Post 18178236)
That sig whoring is really getting old JFK just garbage at top of every page

you should punch him in the face at the next show :2 cents:

GAMEFINEST 05-30-2011 09:20 PM

They must own some real nice ass domains..

buzzard 05-30-2011 09:40 PM

Nathan are you still paying Nucleus? haha ;) Whatever happened to Washiez, TheJimmy and Reverend?
.

96ukssob 05-30-2011 09:43 PM

Good luck with this, id love to see it happen

gideongallery 05-30-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing (Post 18178455)
Don't leave out the part where all the other videos that repeat infringer has uploaded get moved to your in-house "anonymous" account. Unlike sites with a REAL repeat infringer policies where ALL videos uploaded by a repeat infringer get removed.

You wanna be so transparent but yet you leave out huge details like that. Funny huh?

again with the bullshit youtube deletes all the videos when they takedown an account

i have already proven that was false by posting a video that was still up even though the parent account was taken down.

AdultKing 05-30-2011 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18178533)
again with the bullshit youtube deletes all the videos when they takedown an account

i have already proven that was false by posting a video that was still up even though the parent account was taken down.

I agree, this is actually quite correct.

Seth Manson 05-30-2011 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzard (Post 18178506)
Nathan are you still paying Nucleus? haha ;) Whatever happened to Washiez, TheJimmy and Reverend?
.

Whatever happened to Nucleus? He wrote some good scripts for me.

TheJimmy got out of adult a long time ago.

Aka_Bluey 05-30-2011 11:48 PM

This thread has HUGE potential, necessity breeds invention.




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SleazyDream 05-31-2011 12:41 AM

"When the winds of change blow, some people build walls and others build windmills..."
- Old Chinese Proverb



love that proverb!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 05-31-2011 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 18178665)

"When the winds of change blow, some people build walls and others build windmills..."
- Old Chinese Proverb

love that proverb!

http://blackjeezus.files.wordpress.c...mill_beard.jpg

http://montaraventures.com/pix/no-ti...-windmills.jpg

http://th1113.photobucket.com/albums.../th_weepig.gif

ADG

V_RocKs 05-31-2011 01:24 AM

I signed up to several manwin tubes under several nicks. I tried uploading content. I uploaded both legal and illegal content. The legal content never made it to the surfer. The illegal did. So somebody screened my video uploads and instead of blocking water marked, clearly illegal content they let it go through. The 6 to 8 minute stuff was all scrubbed. Hmmmmm?

SomeCreep 05-31-2011 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18177311)
How about some DMCA free jurisdiction servers running a few tubes full of manwin only content ?

Then buying heaps of banner space on torrent sites.

I'm actually seriously thinking about it.

I know tubes are killing our industry, but that idea is stupid. That's like saying you're going to bring down Microsoft by distributing copies of Windows for free. In the end, you'll crash and burn hard and not even make a dent in their business.

If you want to compete or affect their business, start a tube and keep it constantly updated with content from all over the net. The content harvesting must be done indiscriminately though, like they do. Then put aside a whole lot of cash for staff, servers, bandwidth, litigation, and see where the chips fall.

JFK 05-31-2011 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by troncarver (Post 18178236)
That sig whoring is really getting old JFK just garbage at top of every page

you have the same opportunity as I, to put your "garbage" in its place:2 cents:

Dirty Dane 05-31-2011 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18178533)
again with the bullshit youtube deletes all the videos when they takedown an account

i have already proven that was false by posting a video that was still up even though the parent account was taken down.

No, you didn't. The user had only 1, ONE, video, and that can't make him repeated infringer. User was booted for something else. But you still don't understand that logic, do you? :1orglaugh

To keep the safe harbor, not only must they ban the infringer, they must also not have actual knowledge of the videos (with or without DMCA notices), and they must act upon obvious or suspected infringements.

icymelon 05-31-2011 01:45 AM

my advice is be sure the content is user uploaded.

Paul Markham 05-31-2011 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 18177948)
I'M A FUCKING IDIOT PAUL

Youre a broke idiot doing his own ironing.

Manwin are a multi million dollar company.

See the difference? See why you giving anyone business advice is a fucking joke mate?

Wow how can a multi million dollar company go broke. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Butterfly. Your knowledge of business is a prime example of why this business is sliding down a slippery slope.

Multi million dollar businesses go broke all the time. The porn industry used to be a multi billion dollar industry, whats the odds of it still being that? We all know it's gone down.

Customers decide the fate of a company. At the moment Manwin spend a lot of money teaching surfers not a multi million dollar company teaching surfers not to pay for porn.

YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT

http://fohn.net/monarch-butterfly-pi...rfly_large.jpg


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