In about 8 hours a site will be up for content owners to register interest in dealing with tube content theft and content removal, it will initially be a registration of interest system. Then people will be able to participate on a mailing list to cover ideas to form the coalition of content rights holders which will tackle the tubes, starting with Manwin and the ideas in this thread. The initial aim will be to create a database of content which content owners explicitly disallow publishing to tubes, we will then move forward with automated solutions.

If Nathan is good to his word, this will be an important first step in dealing with the tube content theft problem.

its all in the wording. the content is indeed user uploaded... just depends on where those users are. :1orglaugh my bet is on those cheeseheads.

sorry - no comissions for you today :1orglaugh

No, most of the real guys in our industry won't post or even read GFY anymore. The whole "trolling" thing kinda lost it's shock value a few years ago and just isn't funny anymore. And nobody wants to take the chance of getting a GFY "detective" to stir up a GFY "mob" on their ass.

I still talk and do business with many of the best of the best...but none of them come to GFY.
Matter of fact I had one of them email me this morning and said he had read one of my posts on GFY today and it was the first time he had even bothered to come here in over 3 years. :(

they got ryder trucks now :winkwink:

90% of my business is not online, I suggest you are wrong.

We will work with tubes who play ball and remove stolen content and strong arm those who refuse.

just thank your lucky stars that you have a site with a good niche.. and even with all your efforts, i still see your content all over the tubes.

if i hadnt made the switch to mainstream a couple years ago and had to rely on adult money to survive, i would be trolling craigslist looking for cock sucking jobs.. everyone said "oh noes the sky is falling" when i said tubes would ruin this business..

do you believe me now?

everyone i talk to says they beat their meat to the tubes and the only membership they buy is to niches and mostly micro niches that cater to their fetishes where content is just not readily available on the tubes..

its sad to see an entire industry being wiped out by a select few and without even a decent fight to take control back by the people that built it... :2 cents:





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you're a funny guy
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time-video.com :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

maybe you should quit your own tube game first

Money talks, bullshit walks. Manwin probably post here between stolen video uploud`s breaks.
AK put me 1st on your list. I will uploud minimum 20 videos per day for free or charge. Email me at shadyladyranch [@] gmail dot com

Yep, Im a funny guy. My tubes are not tubes, they embed, we'd prefer content wasn't stolen to embed but we dont control the sources. Chan sites are old as the hills, there is a strict removal policy in place on those but I don't personally control them. We don't need a DMCA to remove content, just a simple request and we don't upload it. Screenguide embeds youtube clips, again we don't control the content, youtube does that.

Offline, the brothel, pub, adult book shops and game development enterprises I have a hand in don't steal or supply stolen product. We don't sell stolen beer.

Where do you see my content all over the tubes? I find old stuff on fileshare and torrents...but nothing even close to what others are.

What have you found of mine? You might want to make sure that if you're seeing it "all over" that it's not something that Claudia Marie shot for another company. Her Naughty America scenes are EVERYWHERE and were out there within an hour of going up in NA's members area. lol

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Initially you wont need to upload anything, just add what you don't want published by tubes to a database.

When we fingerprint video my plan is that the fingerprint software will run locally on your machine and upload a profile to the database for use by the API offered to tube sites.

However it's early days, as people come on board they may bring other ideas to the table, The aim will be to form an independent entity to run this whole operation where the costs are largely born by the tubes to serve the member content rights holders who want to protect their content from theft.

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I'll gladly put my money where my mouth is and remove every video embedding site on our network this week, that way no stolen content will pass through to our surfers. I will issue a directive for this to be done today and completed by next friday. If the sites we embed did not steal content then people couldn't access it through our sites, anyway consider them gone, it will take a few days but every one will be removed.

with embeds you = profiting off stolen content.

ah.. that might be what i see..

i ddint know claudia shot outside of her site...






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he is already mass fail :1orglaugh

She doesn't much anymore...just for that reason. :(

They're gone, except for the youtube embed sites which will remain as they link to the original content and Google has correct removal procedures in place for rights holders.

would be nice to see time frames on prodjects

you tried it as well ?:winkwink:

google's removal process is no different that manwins

in fact google puts a warning before the takedown to make sure your 100% aware of the liablity for taking down fair use.

Atleast your getting a response from nathan/manwin

Have fun with

thepiratebay.org
megaporn.com/video
pornbb.org
tnaflix.com
cheggit.net

the list goes on......

Is it worth it to start your own legal tube anymore? Damn.

Just one? Not unless you really know how to build traffic and already have a traffic network in place. Or some old domains that wont get sandboxed when you load them up with 50 updates a day :thumbsup

Now imagine if you had over a hundred domains like that... :pimp

AK, I have agreed to an API approach, not some list you expect us to honor...

That just as a side note.

Who will fund the development costs?

For sure this API will be in fact an API holding a set of APIs since everyone using different tech, frameworks and DB models.

I think the most simple to do is ask any Tube owners to produce a list of their clips who have a bigger file size as clips (2-5 minutes) and which is user generated.

Try to find matches / patterns of the uploaders, check out what sites they promote, try to get their affiliate IDs at various programs and exchange the data (don't know if this is legal) and deactivate their accounts or sue them.

Fingerprinting and tagging mechanisms to match vids is probably also possible but that will be a hell of a job and for sure you need all tube owners like Manwin to be cooperative in this process.

No you moron, user only posted ONE video and was banned for something else.


It was not designed to prevent censorship, but to prevent liability.
Once again you show lack of basic knowledge of DMCA and its purpose. It's written in DMCA that they must not know about the infringements and they must act upon on the obvious or suspection. You may call acting on criminal activities "censorship" as much you like, but in the real world that logic doesn't apply or give you less liability.

You already have people screening content, for rape cp and other nasties, screening from a database of videos that copyright holders deny you the right to have is no different. If you can't do that until the full tech solution then we may have to think about some other options. Those options would not favor you.

I suggest you play ball, because there is a hell of a list of people so far willing to assist bringing Manwin in to line.

Once the site is up for content holders to register ( which should be soon we just delegated the domain ) that list will grow further.

Wake up and smell the roses Nathan, if people deny you the right to host their video content then you are bound to ensure you don't. If you continue to host content against peoples wishes then Manwin is a pariah - and will be dealt with as such.

Today I tasked our search engine team to write an crawler specifically to monitor your tubes and about 28 others, we will be able to generate daily stats of video removals and replacement after removal, those figures will be released publicly for transparency purposes.

By the end of June we expect to be crawling your tube sites every day in their entirety and comparing each crawl index with each successive day. This will help further down the line to audit your compliance with any industry run scheme to bring tubes under control.

really

you made that same bullshit arguement the last time i proved this fact

like i said before


https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17642428&postcount=184



idiot do you understand the difference between a purpose and a practise

they didn't just decide to give hosts a blanket immunity for no reason

they decided to give a host a blanket immunity to prevent censorship

to avoid having the new takedown being abused to censor legitimate free speech (thru fair use)

go back and read the discussion about th law when it was being debated.

hahahaha!!!

O'really??
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wCdB8Pulcto

Now, please STFU!

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idiot what exactly about the statement




do you not understand

the video was up the entire time we were previousy talking about this issue

it only came down when someone made a specific complaint about that video.

blah blah blah... stop trolling, Gideon.

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ADG

333 attacks!

You smell the roses AK, if you provide us with a technical system to screen, we will have no problem implementing it. A simple list will not be used.

Do whatever you think...

AK, please do never assume you can intimidate me, anyone else at Manwin or Manwin itself.

If you try to FORCE us into anything, it will backfire! Work together with us, and I have no problem helping you achieve your goals.

I'm happy to work with you on this Nathan, I have said repeatedly that I have no beef with you personally, I don't know how much clearer I can make that.

However an API and fingerprinting solution will not be developed overnight, it would not kill you to use a well designed online database to check against when you do your other content checks as you have already stated you do.

As far as intimidation goes, that's a strong word, I prefer the word "disincentivize".

I think it's time we had a frank exchange of views on the phone, if you have 20 minutes or so anytime in the next week I have no doubt we can find a mutually acceptable interim measure before a full blown technical solution is adopted. What do you think ?