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For the record, we no longer allow banners with sound. We haven't in almost 3 years.

Also, a banner buy includes items on top of the actual banner:

Large sig sizes as has been stated
The ability to post more regular program announcements in the main forum
Pinned threads

hey a question for you that would resolve the main issue brought up in this thread:

do your impressions show blocked ads?

Choker's system couldn't tell when an ad was blocked and he bills for those clicks. he had a good reason of course - you can't track if a browser is blocking an ad.

if that is the case with gfy ads, wouldn't your impressions count be inflated?

mainly i am just curious how many visitors are blocking ads. my target audience is nubes, so it doesn't matter much to me. maybe u can run a poll? lol

Very nice :thumbsup

well there is a pre-checked cross sale on the join page when I just looked at one of the sites.......

yes, you can... count requests for the image (or swf) instead of requests for the page serving the ad.

Yeah and surfers see it to... What's your point Sleazy???

Since when does a single pre-checked xsale = Banging cards?
Was the xsale info hidden? did you fill out the form, expect a single transaction and get hit more than once?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Its definitely a good place. :2 cents:

every wonder where the impressions come from?

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1024877&page=10

:1orglaugh

Or you can tell you are going to buy them "very soon" Or you can have imaginary employees flash your sigs until they get banned for questionable "user uploaded" pictures on your site.

I'll have to ask that since I don't know too many details on how the system works.

Are there people with blocked ads? I'm sure there are some, a small minority that has its own issues. Someone that willingly accepts and tolerates GFY as a whole and has an issue with a sponsored banner has more serious problems.

First couple months you start advertising on GFY you raise awareness on your product and service. Over time it helps you establish it as a brand. Maintaining presence is important especially these days where too many aff.programs die and services go bad. If you go and track the value generated just from direct click you have only captured a 5-10% of the real one. The banner clicks capture the response of the moment. What really an advertiser is looking for is the 24/7 established memory and the feeling we are around, we are updating our sites, we are providing the support etc

I think the point is why pre-check it? Why not let the surfer choose whatever he want the offer? Why not let it benefit those who actually may overlook it. When you enter a store online or offline, it is not like you have to take out pre-added items from the basket.

Using shady ways or not, it is no secret that companies offering extra high payouts also have to go an extra mile to cover those expenses. Or offer an extraordinary product - which very few still do in this business.

I don't even sell banner impressions or banner clicks, so what are you talking about? Maybe you are confusing me with someone else?

i didn't say "banner" in my post. i bought popunders in that campaign. sorry for the confusion.

i resell your traffic and traffic from other brokers thru www.marketmofo.com. here's our convo from your ticket system:

me
maybe a dumb question, but are we charged for popunders that get blocked by the browser? seems like the system would count it as sent because its blocked at the browser level. none of the sites in the popunder category showed popunders in my browser because pops are blocked. thx

you
Yes you are, there is no way for me to know if a surfer has a popunder blocker on or not, if you are concerned about athat buy the niche feeder its the same price and skimmed not popunders

me
the popunders are cheap i'm just curious if they are productive with today's browsers?

you
Yes they are I cant get enough resellers of these as buyers are willing to pay them more than i am

im not trying to slander your business. i am just reporting on different traffic sources..

haha thats great


all good.

so are you saying that the only campaign worth buying on gfy is long-term?

i can get behind that for sure lol

u should remove Markham from your avatar. it will hurt AVN more than it will help. at least on this board.

Short-term you raise awareness and that is something done at a small cost considering the effort it requires these days. GFY is a partial consolidation of the online adult industry, it always has been so, but it gets stronger by the time.

I don't see how my avatar will hurt my company. AVN owns GFY and the avatar isn't meant as a disrespectful way towards Paul. I've been a long-term client of his, I know he has sense of humour especially after spending some time with him in the past.

I can't believe affiliates still complain about prechecked cross sales.

Those that blocked ads do count as impressions, but as Theo stated that is a small percentage.

But banner ads are only part of the equation. When an ad campaign in purchased I work directly with the advertiser to try and make sure they are using all aspects of their campaign to gain their company the highest level of access to their target audience.

So far this thread has produced only one actual advertisers opinion, the rest of the opinions are fine, but they do not reflect the opinions of those who actually advertise. We have some advertisers here that have been with us almost the full 10 years that I have run this board, they know how to use their advertising and they generate not only a direct ROI, but also they have generated a full brand from their years of advertising.

I personally believe that it is short sighted of those who have no direct knowledge to say that it is not worth it, especially since I have watched entire companies build a solid business from their years of advertising. Now with that said, could you also build a solid business without advertising on GFY? Probably. Will your business benefit from advertising on GFY? Yes!

Yep yep yep

Well said........ :winkwink:

Ah well then I stand corrected. If a surfer has a popunder blocker installed then he never gets sent thru my system and thus never sent to a buyer and thus the buyer is never charged. In other words if you buy a popunder from me you get it. When I answered your question in support I was either confused, very tired, or just not thinking.

Until I started running a banner on GFY a few months ago, I prided myself on never advertising anywhere. I started running the banner here to payback GFY for all the business this board has brought me over the years. Without GFY over the years I would not have done as much business as I had, it was simply a matter of payback to me. I honestly did not think advertising here would bring any new business.
What I found is that running my banner kept my company in front of a lot of people. I got many icqs from past buyers who forgot about me and now needed my services, the banner here at GFY reminded them about me and brought new business. If you read GFY a lot, you will prolly say to yourself "none of these clowns have any traffic or anything I need". Well the fact is that 75% of the business I get from my banner here is from BIG companies in the industry that never post here. They read the threads but don't post. SO yeah advertising here is well worth the money. I advertise here and nowhere else.

I really cant believe a few people can do this to a person on GFY or any place of business :(

plsureking, why would you be so anti a person? We live in 1 world & are in the same business, cant you see that some people ruin other peoples lively hood for others... Its very disgusting :2 cents:

only if fake nicks will stop using bandwidth on this forum :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Lol at choker trying to make us believe his biz is booming when he cant even send me more then 3k crappy premium daily.

Your such a fucking idiot. The fact that that's all your getting shows that I'm sold out pretty much. If I were sending you 100k a day you would say look nobody is buying his trafffic. Your only getting 3k a day casue everyone is buying it BEFORE you. Idiot.

But of course you will find a way to twist this, you are a expert at twisting and manipulating peoples words aren't you?

Wow i gotta say i think its pretty unfair to use adblock on GFY. I know i have made money from using GFY so why not at least give a little back by not using adblock or at least checking out the paid ads :2 cents:

Lol choker boy. Dont get your panties all twisted :)
Not my fault you cant send more then 3k (even that seems hard for you), and the fact that its got a bouncerate so high im really doubting HOW the sites sendin it are sending it through YOUR system.

I mean: 600+ sites with 0 clicks and a bouncerate of 100% with thousands of so called unique "surfers"? And you are selling that as premium at $4/k?

Is that from aaaalll these new people/biz you got flying your little banner on gfy?

Lol!

Wonder which walmart Wiseman works at now?

Sounds to me like your saying that my traffic has not clicked at all on your sites and the bounce rate is 100%.

Can admins ban this idiot so we can see the return of marco and eastwood.

I don't understand why someone would have banners blocked on here.. aren't we mainly here to find good sponsors to promote? I clicked on Sextronix' banner and signed up and turns out they convert pretty good so I'm using them.

True or not that's some damn good selling points :winkwink:

I wouldn't be surprised if Choker could pull some strings and get you banned for continuously attacking his business in all his threads. Give it a break dude. :2 cents:

The same reason sites have pre-checked newsletter boxes. There's nothing wrong or shady about pre-checked sales that are obviously visible.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

From the 600+ sites i mentioned, that you are selling traffic from through YOUR brokersystem, with 0 seconds onsite.

Hell yeah thats what im saying.

And you STILL cant figure out where im heading at? Damn you must be retarded.

At jakez: if thats the case so be it. But from what i know, this forum doesnt have any rules that forbid me to post stats in public of ANYone in thid biz. If you read that as attacking someone you might wanna reconsider, theres lots of money wasted by people because nobody wants to help a fella out by posting the REAL numbers.

serious allegations with a malicious intent to discredit the business.

post proof or ban, troll.

Post proof. You are saying that I am selling traffic that is fake. Sugar coat your words all you want, this is what you are accusing me of. I have warned you about going over the line with your accusations against me before, you seem to think you can slyly accuse me of selling fake traffic, ripping people off etc etc without posting proof. You can say my traffic sucks, I suck, I suck big fat cocks or whatever you want, but to accuse me of selling fake traffic and ripping people off is going too far. Again, post proof.

Lol. Me posting screenshots of those stats?
Is that what you abd choker really want me to do? Really?

:)

where are screenshot?
all you do is just troll around him. Dickhead. :2 cents:

Yes it is, you think I'm playing games here? Once again you derail a business thread with your constant attacks on me. Why Eric has not banned you is beyond me, personally I don't want you banned, but you need to stop making false accusations you can't back up.

Oh by the way, YOU FUCKING better prove this traffic is from me.

If you want to interpret me getting traffic from you that has a bouncerate of 100%, 0 time on site, sending more then 1 click, AND from over 600+ sites in YOUR system as FAKE traffic thats all your decision.

If you want me to post stats or screens i will more then gladly do so. Just make sure you dont come crying about fake screenshots here later on like the little girl emo i know you to be.

Shut up and post stats and PROOF that this traffic is from me.

Here you go choker: https://gfy.com/newthread.php?do=postthread&f=26
Made another thread, so we dont derail this one any further.. Im sure you dont mind :)

great testimonial for gfy ads.

i always suspected that the daily posters were a tiny percentage of gfy traffic. i get sales every week thru my sig from people i've never seen post any comments.

Best ad eva!!
Duke

I'd say and all the folks at Nice Ratios would agree that it is worth it. :) :2 cents:

Yes yes yessssssss

Bingo..... that pretty much sums it allllllllllll up whether advertising here or anywhere

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