Why would you post a girls pics looking for shoots for other sites, guess your sites are not doing that well!! thats nuff outta me!!!

Why? What difference does it make? Does he have some kind of hold over you?

Producers film content. Selling content for others aswell as your own sites, does not mean his websites are not doing well. A webmaster doesnt stick to 1 program as an affiliate. If you earn a million, its probably still not enough :winkwink:

no pics .

100% correct, making a million is not enough , must make two million, then three million.

I enjoyed shooting for other companies

Can be fun

He is grunt for backroomcastingcouch.com Eric Whittaker, pays him well to con girls into performing on that degrading website.

Gonzo also is soliciting underage girls, yes we have major evidence of this we can not post in these boards due to Maricopa County Sheriff Office orders.

He did this with model whom I shot three days after she turned 18, she showed me his text that was six months prior to her turning 18, requesting her to send nudes and nude videos.

Once he learned that I shot this model I had to take her down from my site because she called me begging screaming and crying, that he told everyone in her myspace and facebook that she did porn.

Everything I am saying is 100% facts and true.... If I am not telling the truth I truly encourage Eric Whittaker and Antonio Gonzales to take me to court! Please I dare you.

He just recently post pov sex pics two models facebook pages and changed their passwords so they could not log in and remove the pics.
These two girls experienced so much drama from personal friends and family until they pleaded with facebook to delete their accounts.

If what I say here is not true, I encourage Antonio Gonzales to take me to court. Also understand he is a RAVE guy, what does that mean.. hhmm he preys on girls drug habits.

Ouch, goodbye.

All info and names are made public.

http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Elizabeth_Hawkenson

http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca5...NoticeID=52753

http://www.complaintsboard.com/compl...t=datea&page=4

Damn it I was totally hoodwinked into some drama thread instead of seeing boobs...what the hell?

Looks like we have a new Donny Long in the making.

Is this the same guy that's always bragging about houses?

"Gonzo also is soliciting underage girls, yes we have major evidence of this we can not post in these boards due to Maricopa County Sheriff Office orders.

He did this with model whom I shot three days after she turned 18, she showed me his text that was six months prior to her turning 18, requesting her to send nudes and nude videos."

Anyone know the Case Number please?

Read the thread bro.

1) Eddie has big respect for models and is a professional dealing with them as far as I can tell and know about him and seeing numerous videos and photos he has taken. Quite the opposite of any "Donny Long" syndrome.

2) Some serious shit above read it. It's key information then take a side if you give a shit about models in the business being treated properly.

Didn't Donny Long forget to wipe poo thoroughly from his pooper before a shoot?

This is funny! :)

Its always the same shit out there.
Rubberless Joe and Donny Long or someone talking shit about other photographers.

Even the crazies in South Florida dont have these problems anymore.

You guys are always talking about exclusives and unions and all sorts of megalomaniac horseshit.
[Not you Mark in particular]

Just shoot the girl and pay her and quit worrying about who else shoots her.
In this economy its well known that any new tallent that comes out that way is shot out in 60 days anyhow.

Theres no side to pick as I dont see anything but a lot of shit slinging which you very well know Im quite adept at.
No profit in it these days so do what you want.

With affiliates becoming more scarce each day youd think program owners would be worried about creating other sources of traffic and revenue.

Nice looking tour and nice stills. Keep on working and let the consumer decide with their wallet whats best for them.

Its all that matters in the end anyway.

Donny has a habit of not being able to wipe his ass correctly.
It seems like his latest attention whoring stunt has now got the attention of the Feds.

And that aint no wikileak.

drama threads are coming back in style

Hey Eddie whats your email address, I want to talk to you. Thanks.

rob {a} robspics DOT com

Yeah no kidding. I am learning Arizona really has a very different landscape than LA and probably deserves a category of its own. Arizona is loaded with fuck heads and unlike fuck heads in Florida and vastly different than LA. The ones in AZ would never last long in either place as abusive as they are with models. If they just mellowed the fuck out all of them could be making more money rather than shit talk each other to the point that local girls have the common knowledge not to bother with any of it and head to LA.

It's ass backwards over there to put it mildly, as hardcore as Eddie posts about this sort of thing and him getting shit for it he might be the sanest one among the AZ shooters.:1orglaugh

Hope all is good for ya Gonzo of Florida, our site is doing good and we got a growing blog network going if you got anything for trades hit me up ICQ:)

You both are 100% correct. Arizona is full of guys fighting over models like scraps of meat.

1. I do not try to keep a model from shooting other photographers.
2. I do not have such a huge inferior complex that I must slander those who are male talent that performs with the models.
3. I actually refer models to other photographers.
4. I do not interfere with photographers who are shooting a model.

Yeah I am the sane one here.

Email sent

Eddie leave AZ its a shit hole, you would do better anywhere else.
Photographers like you are rare. Let them keep producing shit content it's where they belong.
AZ makes the Russian Sex Trade seem like Disneyland.

If guys over there are happy completely destroying a girls experience in the biz it's on them and not our business.

My public 2 cents of advice.

It was more the other accusations I thought would get you in bother.

Eddie,

Since our little spat ago I've decided to move on and not bring you up on the boards, and frankly I've only had a conversation with one model that's shot with you since shooting that one chick.

I'm just going to say right now, that I'm still not going to try to make this into a drama post, but if it comes off that way I understand...

That being said - MOST of the AZ guys I know are pretty cool with each other. Some hate each other, absolutely. Board egos and he-said-she-said bullshit happens. I hang out with a site owner and model pretty regularly (you know this) and I've hung out with several other people on the board. People just seem to get along well in person.

Nobody is perfect 100% of the time. We all have bad personal and working relationships, the best thing to do is just move the fuck on.

1. There aren't that many content shooters in AZ. No reason why we shouldn't all get along. But for that to happen everyone has to be open and HONEST with each other, which will likely never happen. Working together on projects would be the first step to actually knowing how people act on location. If you shoot a girl, have a great experience and she loves you, you send her to me and the same thing happens, but she tells me you were a complete prick and she tells you the same thing... what then? We've never worked together, don't know the inner-workings of each others tactics for recruiting or shooting or whatever, and we're in the position we're in now making a mess of this board and trying to just stay away from each other instead of working "together." Not together in the sense that you aim the lens and I look in the viewfinder and the next guy operates the shutter, but we just know what the fuck is happening.

2. You're going to get slandered, I'm going to get slandered, everyone is going to get slandered... girls talk shit. Not saying it's a new thing they're doing or that all women are piles of shit - but it happens. Could be that you were 2 minutes late arriving to a location or you missed a phone call and all of a sudden you're a flake. You could trip over a chord and land on the couch next to her, you're a creep. The list goes on. There's a reason girls talk shit, and it's either valid or it's not. Sometimes it's talking shit, other times it's legit and it just sounds that way. Every time someone tells a story, it gets bigger, more detailed, blown out of proportion.

3/4. People just need to lighten the fuck up. If I shoot a model and I know other people can use her (or might be able to use her), I send that girl to them. If they get denied, oh well I wasted 4 minutes sending an email and they probably wasted all of a minute looking at the pictures and no harm is done.

Where people run into problems is how models are allegedly being treated when they arrive to shoots. I would NEVER send a model to someone I haven't met in person, had a conversation with or heard from a few other models they were treated well by that person. Am I hoarding girls? Definitely not. If I shoot a girl and then everyone else on the planet shoots them (well maybe not to that extreme but you get what I'm saying) it doesn't matter one bit to me. I'm all about getting what I need first, and then helping everyone else out.

Have I heard some pretty shitty things from models and other shooters about you? Definitely. Is it all true? Probably not. Could some of it be? Frankly I don't know. I've never met you, only had conversation with you through ICQ, email and this board and I think that's where a lot of my distrust you for you comes in. If you act the way you have towards me coupled with what I've heard from models (whether it's bullshit or not) ... what am I supposed to think? What are other people supposed to think when they read you and I, you and Antonio, you and whomever, Gonzo and whomever, blah blah blah going back and forth with each other just talking shit? I'd be weary to do business with any of us too.

We all just need to shut the fuck up about it really. Would I hang out and have a beer with you? Eh, I really don't know. I'd like to say I would because I like to be able to get along with most people, but we have a pretty shitty history with each other and frankly I don't know if the bad blood between us will ever go away. Maybe, maybe not - doesn't affect my shooting, recruiting or working with models you've shot, Antonio has shot, Buck30 has shot, Rob has shot, whatever.

This state is too fucking small for all the hostility. I'm buying a house this month and when I'm moved in I might have an industry BBQ so people that have met can hang out, and the people that have only communicated through the internet can get face to face and figure out if they really don't like the person or not.

Not trying to be the guy that unites the AZ shooter community, but shit is getting ridiculous. There are people that have never met each other hating each other and it could be for a valid reason or it could just be a misunderstanding.


I think I'm rambling.

Jon....

Never met ya, never talked to you. High quality post here. Nicely said.

and if that BBQ ever happens... please include me on the list if you would.

I agree.. I like my ribs well done :thumbsup

We met at Saddle Ranch briefly. :winkwink: I'm glad I'm that memorable haha.

Count me out.
Content shooters will always talk shit.
I seen this before.

Take the Ribs Eddie watch your back. I am convinced AZ shooters are all shit bags. My vote is you are to good for it bro. GTFO of AZ and go where you can be appreciated and grow the business.

AZ has so many fucking girls that would shoot and can shoot and the content shooters there just fucking turn em out short of rape, fuck up there experience in the biz and seal them into drugs.

Fuck all that.

Count me in for that BBQ, Jon. Let me know what you want us do bring.

What you are saying is 100% True

Rob of FTV does what he can to ruin the psychology of a FIRST TIME MODEL so she will never do porn again to protect his content.

GONZO does the same but with far more drastic measures. First attempt is with 90 day contact.
If fails he hacks facebook accounts posts porn photos for family and friends to see so the girl will experience so much drama and will never have anything to do with porn again.

How they are so effective is they pay way higher rates than the normal paid rates. So the girls tend to follow what they say.

Hehe very good arguement, but I want to see the pics!!

This post is Deep. Please let me know of any BBQ dates would love to be there ;)

Was just up your way....had a mile high burger ;)

BBQ sounds good, doesn't it? Hope to see you there :thumbsup

where is that burger joint I am hungry

oops must be in CO lol

Right on, Mile High Rocks. Jerome is nice and cool for the summer too:

Here is a couple of pictures off the deck at my house from the BBQ the other week with some friends: https://picasaweb.google.com/greek2mee/JeromeArizona#

Oh man, I love Jerome. I wish I had invested in a place in the early 70's when they were giving away homes if you restored them.......

http:///nikkilicks.com/pics/IMG_4280.jpg