Frisky trolling, manipulating shit and lying through his teeth again.

What else is new.

just tested it: there was a girl sitting on the couch, but it took 35 seconds for the page to load and the girl to appear.

you have been pretty outraged and aggressive during this 1-2 months broker test. however it is starting to seem like you accomplished something valuable for the industry.

• skim sites owned by traffic brokers
• traffic brokers reselling unsold inventory from other brokers
• 0 bounce rate in GA is misleading
• traffic brokers use the best traffic for their own campaigns

I guess you have to promote better program otherwise stop buying traffic!

Didnt say it was sold thru 10 other brokers, all traffic is sold in a series of backups, premium 1rst spot is just that, first spot, 2nd spot is unsold 1rst spot traffic, etc etc. Many brokers will name these niches mix, ie at some other brokers mix is unsold traffic from thousands of different domains, it may have been thru 1 buyer already it might have been thru 20 already, meaning the same surfer may have went to other buyers sites before yours in the last 30 days.

why does any designer worth shit not spend his time building sites for himself instead of designing sites for other people?

why does any affiliate worth shit not build his own pay sites instead of sending his traffic to other people's pay sites?

why does any content shooter worth shit not spend his time building his own paysites instead of selling the content to others?

... it's called division of labor and the law of comparative advantage.:winkwink:

Broker test> no it's not a broker test, he agreed to buy from 5 different brokers at same time to same site, he did not, he is showing PARTIAL stats of my traffic, not showing the better quality that has lower bounce rate, he's manipulating data to achieve his goal of discrediting me, if you don't see that then I don't know what to say to you. He is trying his best to say that I am sending fake traffic to buyers, manipulating and twisting data, did you really expect anything else from someone who after 9 years in this business only has a 4 k a day whitelabel cam site to show for all his work?

ok i understand how the premium 1st spot works. that wasn't my question. i refer you to your own words:

my question has not changed. where do YOU specifically mark that an available buy was previously (un)sold by another broker?

or is all of your traffic bought from other brokers?

because what i am seeing from this thread is that you either buy your traffic from brokers - which means anything of value has been skimmed off it more than once - or you resell skims from your own skim sites.

tell me what i am missing here? ..or hopefully that i am wrong.

ok then it is a CHOKER test. the results are the same. they show production of YOUR traffic.

now hopefully you can get over the 5-way test issue and focus on the problems with your traffic.

some of us are trying to sell this shit..

Choker choker choker.

Why are you avoiding everyones questions in this thread, deflecting and attacking me to get the focus on me instead of the traffic you are selling. Some called it more then just shady, but its at least misleading, dont you agree? Answer the questions, explain yourself, its not about me or my company. Its YOURS thats being discussed here.

Do you deny the site posted by agent488 is yours?
How did you cost me 100k in income? That would be interesting to know?

What part of he is not showing all the stats don't you understand? He is showing 1/3rd of the traffic results and is HAND PICKING to show traffic with a higher bounce rate, he is not showing the 2/3rd of the traffic with the lower bounce rate. Problems with my traffic? Who are you again?

Deflecting> why dont you answer the simple question of why are you only showing stats for 1/3rd of what I'm sending? Next your gonna say there are no upgrades, when in other threads you said there were a few? You are very amusing, you know damed well how i cost you so much money, don't you?

I did not say it was unsold by another broker, why are you manipulating my words, i said it was probably sent to several other buyers in the last 30 days befrore it was sent to him. Where does google mark on adwords that the same surfer has clicked on other adwords 10 times in the last 30 days? Where does anyone selling banner spots say surfers have clicked on 10 other banners in the last month. Should I also list every site surfers have visited in the last 30 days on every traffic type I have? talk about reaching, your jsut trying to dig something up arent you?

Why? The phrase "teenage sex" or "teen sex" is probably one of the most used in promoting the teen niche. Perhaps you are in the wrong business if that domain worries you.

Here we go again lol. We are alllll manipulating his words. Choker, did you miss my screenshot of YOUR site explaining your premium traffic? I guess i made that myself too right?

Bad, bad excuses.

Please answer this:

How did you cost me 100k in income?
Is the site mentioned by agent488 yours?
Are you buying traffic from other brokers and sending it to sites like this, selling it as us_premium?

If you are so open and honest, these questions should be easy to answer right?

You really think so ? :winkwink:

this link: http://www.myfreeporncams.com/signup...r&smid=5844870

is not loading on my end...

Loading perfectly fine.

You can't answer the question of why you are only showing stats of 1/3rd of the traffic you are buying from me, if you are so open and honest, this question should be easy to answer right?

yes the site is mine, yes I buy from other brokers (1rst spots) and most is filtered thru my sites before selling to others. What's your point on this? Brokers buy from each other all the time, have been forever. I have one broker buying $2000 worth of traffic a day from me right now and reselling to others. SO fucking what. What does this have to do with anything. I'd rather sell $2000 a day to a broker with $200 profit than 10 different buyers with $400 profit, less admin time and expenses for me.

holy shit.

its an education for us.

you say "Brokers buy from each other all the time, have been forever.". well that is not posted anywhere on any broker site, including yours.

that is the point.

fyi i dont care about his stats, so please dont use this 1/3 argument in your reply to me. it has little to do with hidden industry practices.

u are almost a whistle blower if all these practices you are leaking are true about traffic brokers.

i will never buy another click.

In other words
WHAT DOES NOT WORK FOR ME, IS GOOD ENOUGH TO SELL.
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We should just rename Frisky and Choker to montague and capulet life long battle between these two it seems.

That's because your 3rd-world country is probably getting filtered. Where are you from?

I guess thats what he is saying. But that would account for all of his traffic i bought from him. This portion is even worse, 0 time on site, 100% bounce. This means one part is reaaaaally shit and not worth a cent, the other part is downright shady.

Not sure whats worse for him to out at the moment.

I wonder how many of these so called sites sending me this crap are his own shitty sites filtering the worst of the worst before its being sold to people as premium traffic. How many of these questionable sites did a surfer get redirected to before they saw mine?

And whats up with his statement that he cost me 100k in income? What is he referring to with that?

well choker admits he sends traffic from his own network, probably feeds it from other brokers though. look at the trades for the site, they are all clones so i assume thats his network.`

since it looks like a 100% skim network would explain the page views. looks like the thumbs filter by niche.

Sending traffic from his own network is fine.
Sending it from questionable sites, filtering crap traffic through it up to 10 times as he admitted and selling it as premium for a high price, misleading customers with his explanations of premium clicks on his site.. Wow, thats something totally different.

Im pretty sure not all brokers work like this, i urge you all to start looking at your stats. Dont buy crap like this!

So, this definition is a new way of saying CJ traffic?
You buy from a broker, send it to your sites, it doesn't convert, you sell it as premium US traffic.

two things you never want to see how it's done: Making sausages and how brokers receive and filter their traffic. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Show ALL of the stats of STFU. :2 cents:

What page are you sending that too?

If it is TGP/MGP style with no link to any other page on your domain the bounce rate SHOULD be 100%! Means 100% either closed the window or went to your sponsor without loading another page on your domain. Totally would make sense.

100% skim cj sent to a cam site.

Links pulled.. and then put back up.. pulling them.. back up.. I'm out..

i thought it was pretty much common knowledge that brokers are buying traffic from one another. anyone who thinks differently is pretty naive ;]

let's see all the stats

There is entirely too much noise in this thread. Here's a suggestion to Jack and Choker: Stop fighting with each other and drop the insults. It makes you both look bad.

There's a good opportunity here for everyone.

Jack:
You are testing his traffic and finding problems. If these problems are real, point them out and let Choker fix them. You will gain a new business partner that you can respect that will help your business.

Choker:
If there's an error in your system or business somehow (I'm not saying that there is), then this is a good time to discover it and fix it. It will increase the value of your service and you will gain more customers.

For everyone else, we can all learn more about reading GA, or who to buy traffic from, or who NOT to buy traffic from. I think there is alot of interest in this thread but I'm losing patience digging thru all the useless arguments just to get to the important stuff.

Peace.

@mark: i asked about 4-5 times if he could manage the buy. He didnt want to for obvious reasons. Crap teaffic cant be managed into something good.

Nobody needs to buy this shit. I dont care if i look unprofessiobal outing him im sorry bro.

Looks he has two different landing pages with choker. One is his main index page and the other with free preview of random webcam model thats currently on-line. Idiot is only showing stats for this random webcam link where surfer is sent directly from chokers network. Imagine you surfing porn and instead of busty pornstar you come to some gross BBW mature with Camel cig in her mouth? Are you going to continue clicking around on that site? Choker asked him multiple times to post entire stats and not random model link only. Of course being the asshat Frisky is, he ignores that request.

Just tell him he is a fake nick and call marco and eastwood to vouch for you.

If a Traffic Broker, says what pages you can and can not send to. He even manages the traffic for you, then why sell the traffic???????????????????????

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How much money have you both lost by fucking around with each other on GFY?

Not really necessary when this thread is already filled with questions raising everyones eyebrows about choker and chokertraffic except for your fake nick, the other retarded fake nick, and choker himself.

:)

Dont shoot the messenger, he wanted stats and proof of these hits he called "FAKE" hits himself, i just fullfilled his wishes.

And i even warned him he did NOT wanted to see me post them in public, but his proud shortsighted ass insisited on providing proof for everyone to see.

I bet he isnt walking peacefully through "its a small world" now and im sorry for that, but he asked for it and i did what he asked. Being the nice guy that i am :)

We really need Marco and Eastwood here. Im so surprised your "employees" aren't here to support you :1orglaugh

So how about full stats for chiker traffic and 4 other brokers. You did buy traffic from others per your agreement on that bet. Did you little man?

I doubt choker lost any. The fool probably didn't lose much eather because he didn't have any to begin with.

I keed at "little man" haha :):)

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Marco and Eastwood >> You

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He will not. Isn't it pretty obvious. Kid is just anonumous cyber punk. This topic isn't about choker's traffic. He just wants attention. For a guy who claims to be in this biz for 10 years he's a complete idiot. Can't even read google stats.

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