Well how about it?
Obviously its not going to do any good if u buy "teen" traffic from mature site.
It also doesn't do any fucking good if you send teen or mature traffic to webcam page with Mexican guy name Poncho rubbing his cock.
Doesn't take rocket scientist.

Read again. Buying teen traffic and being sent mature/bbw traffic from a teen domain is very unacceptable IMO, and this happens in Chokers system and I know it because I have bought traffic, have you? Are you just trolling or what?

What is your account name I'll check this. I do have thumbs of mature shemale etc at the bottom of teen sites, but you can't buy this traffic by domain so I'm not sure what your refering to. So is it possible to get mature traffic from a teen site of mine? yes if the surfer clicks on a mature thumb on a teen site he can be sold to you as mature niche, but again you can't buy this traffic by domain name. The fact that he is on a teen site and clicked a mature thumb does not mean he doesnt want to see mature shit, in fact it says he does, but I need to see what niches you are ordering to see how this is happeneing in your account.

Of course its unacceptable but this is not the case here. Are you trolling or have too much time on your hands?
We are talking about buying traffic and sending it to a page thats going to fail. That webcam preview page that he was sending traffic to looks just like any popup livejasmin window on picture hosts and file sharing networks. Porn surfers aren't stupid and not the same they were 10 years ago. Of course they are going to close that page right away. The real question is why frisky refuses to show other stats for index page, after all he's directing twice as much traffic over there.

Because I would need about 100 different paysites in 100 different niches to keep the surfers going to different sites. Send 10k hits to a sponsor and you wil lbe lucky if 7500 are credited to you, not saying sponsors shave, 25% loss is about average due to many different factors. Now most sponsor programs will say they count 100% and I'm full of shit, well do your own test, its easy enough.

He can't post actual stats cause hes buying to that page withOUT the choker linking url. I reverse engineered the math and came up with a 80% bounce rate, I used his stats he posted and did the math, it's not that hard to do really.

Jakez, just ignore fake nicks like justalex, internetuser, bbarnardo etc etc. They havent been banned from this forum for shits and giggles, thats why they need to hide behind fake nicks ;) tgey dont have a clue who i am, what sites i run, or what companies i own, let alone know how much traffic goes through my sites everyday. I love how they think that all i got after 9 years in this biz is oneclicktube or myfreeporncams. Let them believe that, its exactly what i want retards like that to believe :) i like to keep my biz to myself, i even avoid events and such because of it :)

Account name is jakezz

I bought pop_lq_teens (popunder low quality teens). But I stopped the order when I saw this thread and looked at the referrer stats and this is what is being sent:
http://i.imgur.com/79NNV.jpg

I really just wish you would revamp your whole system so that the traffic is more targeted and isn't just being thrown around everywhere and you could also charge more..

Says the guy talking about shit no one cares about like whether Jack Sparrow has employees or not. I wonder if he has a girlfiend? Lets talk about that too! I have nothing more to say to you..

Thanks for clarifying but I'm still not fully understanding how you're classifying this premium vs non premium. I'm not trying to give you a hard time, just trying to makes sense of this trainwreck of a debate...

What's confusing is you're telling me here and now that premium refers to country, nothing else...

But then on your site, while it does stick to regional for pricing, you have 2 sections. Premium and non premium...

Buy CLICKED Premium Traffic For As Low As $3.00/K
This Is ONLY CLICKED Traffic From Directory Sites Targetted By Niche
Performs Great On Tube Sites / MGP Sites
http://www.chokertraffic.com/buyers/premium/

But then you also have this page:

Buy NON PREMIUM Traffic For As Low As $0.50/K
Buy US / Canada / UK Traffic For As Low As $1.50/K
Performs Great On Dating / Webcam Sites
http://www.chokertraffic.com/buyers/geo/

And while the pricing for the 2nd page I linked is higher for US/Canada/UK traffic, it's still listed as non premium... so you're site contradicts what you're telling me now... unless I completely missed something.

I'm not trying to bust your balls here, but anyone who takes 2 minutes to read your post then check out your site, they can see the contradiction.

Want to post some proof that I have been banned before asshole?
You sure sound like you know who I AM.
You avoid everyone because you'd get your ass kicked, troll.

I've tested this before and even when a surfer kept clicking a banner (becoming raw hits) and seeing the same tour over and over they sometimes buy the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc time.. and sending them to the same tour over and over made more $$$ than sending to multiple sponsors because the original one simply converts the best.. just food for thought (I'm sure you've noticed this plenty of times already). But yeah having other sites to send them to would be ideal.

Edit: is it fair to call skimmed traffic clicked traffic? Just another thing that bugs me :(

Than keep you mouth shut.

Wow lol, it sure as hell took you long to bring up another lie. So ive been calling it like it was named for 2 days now, US_PREMIUM like it WAS named in your admin system, and you never said anything before but now you deny its called that? Lol, i think if we go search all my posts in the other thread we we notice i called it like it was weeks ago.

You keep trying to bullshit your way out of this, but you are constanty contradicting yourself. Now you dont even know how you call it yourself anymore? Lol! Yep totally convincing. I guess i just made that name up weeks before YOU demanded
Me to post stats.

The reversed engineer stuff is hilarious, funny shit there haha.

You might wanna reverse engineer 1/3 of your traffic because you said it yourself when i just mentioned the numbers: your conclusion was i was accusing you of sending fake traffic, based on these very numbers.

Its hard to keep up with so many lies or? See how i never contradict myself? Thats because i make statements based on facts staffed with numbers, versus your reverse engineering, lies, assumptions, playing with numbers.

Why dont you post some more sites in this awesome network you filter traffic through up to 10 times, purchased from other brokers (your own words buddy). Maybe we can form an unbiased opinion if we saw a couple more of those, but im pretty sure you wont post them, and we all know the reason why.

Btw. You where right about me not going as low to get your paypal blocked, i guess i cant think the same of you, since you said you are the reason i lost 100k income. We still have no explanation to that statement either.

I don't think anybody really takes Frisky seriously so I wouldn't be too worried about it myself.

Watch out for that "you're fake nick" punchline. Because everyone here is fake except for Marco and Eastwood that use same IP address as their "boss" and usually start posting on GFY after their "the boss" gets banned. :1orglaugh

Popunders are a different story. Lots of these sites that sends popunders have 20 to 40 different category pages, to create a niche for each one of thier pages is simply not feasible. What I do is test their traffic and send the same amount to 10 different niche pages of mine. Whichever one performs the best thats what I classify that domains traffic as. Revamping the sytem to make niches such as domain_teens domain_mature, well I would have 10 thousand diferent niches and it would be so confusing it would be pathetic. The 1rst spot 2nd spot etc traffic is from the exact niche thumb, but it's not $1.50 like popunders are. At the end of the day what you need to consider and nothing else is simply what is the productivty of that traffic on your site versus how much you paid for it. Example 1000 popunders with 100% productivty on your site that cost you $1.50 is the same as 1000 skimmed hits that cost you $3 per k with 200% productivity.

Sorry... I just got here. Is it Obama's fault yet?



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These popunders do good on sites like the one your buying to I have been told by more than one buyer. If it bothers that that your getting traffic from a mature site when buying this traffic, then don't buy it. In my opinion it doesn't matter where the traffic is coming from, as long as it converts. Another thing your buying all countries, that's not good. You should order just US UK CA AU to that page. When you click buy traffic you are given the choice of countries to buy from.

Looks to me 9 pages of this thread is about people caring :)

I honestly care only a little about the bounce rate, or how many times choker runs it through his sites first. I want to know the ROI, yes I know the traffic is coming slow, but that could be a good thing depending on what payment method is being used for the cams. I forget is it PPS or a %. if it is a % then this gives it time for the signup to make sales.....

Can we get a update on amount made so far? and How much traffic is left to be sent?

Does the chick in your avatar have 2 different colored eyes? HA

I got signups from gay site to my girls only cam site, it was an error but well. You never know really.

Laughing at you, not with you idiot.

Good point, might want to look into that choker!
:2 cents:

Im sure text will be changed and choker is gonna pretend it was never on his site like that.

Same like US_PREMIUM which was changed and denied ever being there all of a sudden.

So many lies..

Choker, explain your statement you cost me 100k in income asap now. Should i start another thread about it or do you want me to investigate this claim on a whole different level?

Bump for full stats or STFU.
Whats taking you so long kid?

myfreeporncams - is that a white label? Which company?

LOL He fixed that along time ago, people who are extremely huge atleast traffic wise will get hacked. And its also google, there turning into the police of the net.

Hi Choker,

There is too much noise and fighting in this thread to figure out what is going on, so I'd like to try something if you're interested.

Can you tell me how many clicks $500.00 of your best traffic would buy me?

"Best" means North American Only, English, that is most likely to convert for my cam site, LiveCamNetwork.com, that YOU manage.

I am already using Google Analytics on my site and have 3 different goals setup. What I will do is post the results from your traffic in this thread if you want me to, or we can keep it between us. If the traffic converts, I'll renew the campaign. Again, I am *only* interested if you manage it.

Thanks,

I'd LOVE to see that happening and with the results posted in public.

PS:

To Choker, I'm not posting my offer as any kind of a Challenge - apologies to you if it looks that way. We are doing decent sales already with Ero-Advertising and a few others so I know we can convert well given the right traffic. If you have the traffic to sell and a little time to manage it for us, I would like to give it a shot.

people buy traffic from best shop! :)

the problem with this is:

1. he doesn't exactly know his sources. he buys unsold traffic from other brokers. he buys in huge blocks and it is impossible to verify every url in a purchase that large.

2. he doesn't have niche control. his teen sites have sub-cats of milf and more. how can you be certain that u aren't buying gay traffic for your teen cams?

this is not a problem with Mr. Choker. i think he is a cool guy and professional. he is an industry veteran. but like most of us veterans, it is very easy to get lazy and let your product get away from you. especially when the market is in constant flux.

in my opinion, that is what has happened to choker traffic. a few weeks of cleaning and upgrading and choker would be the top notch traffic source it used to be.
/:2 cents:

You are wrong on all counts. I do have TOO many info pages and need to streamline them. But if I change one single word anywhere on my site Frisky will say I did that to hide something, want he?

********** I have literally no unsold 1rst spot or even 2nd,3rd,or 4th US traffic at this time. I MAY have 15k a day of popunders, but even that will not likely be available by the end of the day.

So you are saying you only have crap to sell right?

Lol, btw you just admitted to changing the texts, liar liar pants on fire. It WAS called US_PREMIUM like i posted.

Putting words in my mouth again, god you really need to grow up son.

I didnt change anything , you bought geo-us end of story, the niche you bought wasnt called premium_us look in your bank history, if i change the name of a niche your bank history would show it's original name. You are beyond pathetic, but then again you have NOTHING after 9 years in this business and it's very obvious to anyone reading your posts why. You come on here post PARTIAL stats and hide shit from people, yet you continue and continue. You originally agreed to buy from 5 brokers at same time, you lied and didnt do that. There is no winning with you, because you would find fault in a bar of gold. You are like one of my exes, she lies so much and manipulates everyones words so much she does it whithout even knowing she does it. This is you to the letter. You are a nobody, have nothing and never will. Your bed is empty at night for a reason. I'm thru wasting my time with you. When you buy the exact same sort of traffic from 5 different brokers and send traffic at the same time to exact same page like you agreed to do, let me know.

have a guess at what I'd like to do to both of you fucking faggots?

i cant afford to buy traffic...

This thread took me 3 hours, but it was worth it :thumbsup

I wonder why delusional fakie Frisky doesn't want to post all stats from his so called "test".
Maybe he made millions and doesn't want his business partners marco and Eastwood to know about it. :1orglaugh He is a new manwin.. but much bigger.

Not entirely true. Sometimes he has his imaginary friends Marco and Eastwood for a sleepover.

Sending at the same time, sounds good, BUT some brokers can send it in an hour and some 30 days.

mrfrisky/JackSparrow, take this as a single warning.