Great natural breasts on that show ...

Dont listen to Marina. She could always NOT read this thread ;) I can lend you the books if you want btw

its a freakin hour long lol. I like the show but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

Actually that is fairly obvious don't you think? :winkwink:

I am completely fine with trimming plot lines. Completely fine with broad strokes to get points across or limiting perspective to keep the budget in line.

But let's face it... Moby Dick still needs to have Ahab going down with the White Whale to a watery grave. You can't have the Sea Shepard coming into the last reel of the movie and saving the whale from the whalers and the whalers from themselves. That just fucks things up at worst or at least makes it a different story.

And Thrones is all about how one action will result in another contingency set in motion to a plausible and inevitable conclusion, check and mate, a great chess game of plot lines.

(READ ON AT RISK OF SOME POTENTIAL SPOILERS)

I am willing to roll with it since if I hadn't read the books what difference would it make? Like I said, a bit of extra sex is not a problem. HBO has to pander to the average attention span too. I just don't like stuff that is gratuitous - we already know Joffrey is bad, mmmmmmkay? We don't need another kinky sex scene to prove it further. Why create the love interest for Robb when the surprise of his decisions is precisely what provokes the upcoming event that I won't mention for those that don't know it. Or maybe they are not going to feature that critical event in the story?

Who knows? All I am saying is the new character storyline arcs will either pan out into pure gold or go bust. Remains to be seen.

I just was sent this article and it summed up my thoughts pretty well on this whole problem. I only recommend reading though if you have read the books and are watching the show since it spells out the differences.

Yeah!! bring me the books :thumbsup



I did not read the guy who quoted you ;)

I never expected them to follow the books precisely. Not with an epic mile-long multi-book story like this. It would take 30 years of ten episode seasons to do it. I'd love it of course, because in this case the story has enough depth and quality that it'd be worth it.

I haven't noticed the show killing off essential characters far earlier than in the books. Who?

So far it has "somewhat" followed the books. Robb had a new love interest in the books which led to misfortune for him, and so far in the tv series he seems to be developing *gasp* a new love interest. It's not the exact one from the books, it's different. I'm okay with it being different. The book didn't really delve much into how he came to fall for that girl, and only briefly mentioned in retrospect as to how it came to be. The series seems to be going into a lot more detail about it. Again, I'm fine with that.

I think I'll wait until I see these last three episodes of S2 and then maybe we'll all have a better grasp of things. Or maybe we won't and we'll be sitting on here griping for another year whilst waiting for S3. :(

Mago, one of the bloodriders killed in the 'throat' scene which was not in the book is now dead in the tv show but alive in the book. The television show version of events may turn out to be equally good... but it will undoubtedly become increasingly different from the books.

He is a minor character in the book and Martin wrote the episode where he was killed off. Doubt this will impact the future books at all.

Had you watched the interview, you'd have seen Martin himself makes note of it along with other similar divergent paths. The issue is not keeping time with the books that are written, but not diverging from the story yet to be told in the two unwritten books. Every divergence now creates possible problems later. What you assume to be a 'minor' character may not be one. All of the characters that now seem 'major' were 'minor' at one point in the story. And characters that seemed undeniably 'major' at one point are now 'minor' or dead. ;)

Had you read my quote you would notice that Martin (as in George R. R. Martin) wrote the episode where he killed off Mago. If the discussion is about killing off characters and the impact it has on the future books I think the author of said books would be the best authority on that topic wouldn't you? If they start killing other characters off in the show then I understand your point. But up to this point they have not (that I know of) killed off anyone still alive in the books other than Mago.

I will not comment on the major vs minor debate since there are several major characters that are still major in the books.

I think the series will be just fine without Mago. If that's the only character in contention here then the argument itself is pretty weak. I was thinking maybe I missed something where someone with a meatier role (like Davros, or god forbid: Joffrey :D ) was killed off. I'm pretty sure both the series and the future books will be just fine without Mago.

I'm with Stout on this.

Nope, I code man, I haven't watched even sunlight since months... time for a movie? That would be a luxury.

Sadly that is not a joke.

Are you at least meeting your deadlines? :D


Hey, GOT's ain't going anywhere. Plenty of time to get caught up later. The final books are still years away from being written.

Yeah, but you don't want to end up with a Dexter on your hands. Granted the television series was pretty good up and through the Lithgow season, but it was so different than the book series it's not funny and the last two season made me think they should have stayed with the books despite how good that Lithgow season ended.

I'm a bit bothered by one thing,

the Magic lady with the perfect tits who shit out a shadow..

Now all of the sudden, in a "world" of decent reasoning, we have a phantom ghost figure that can go around killing people with impunity it seems.

Really could have done without that..

you forgot the part with the man that can multiply and not die

Yeah,

that bothers me too. At least the dead walkers have some sort of logic behind them. Those two things defy all reasoning in the series.

Waiting till season 2 is done then catching up on the entire thing.

SEASON 3 about to start. I'll be re-watching S2 right away just to refresh it all.

I had all of S1 and S2's episodes saved on my DVR but about a month ago the hard drive in it crapped out and Shaw Cable had to come and replace the entire unit.

So I lost it all. :(

Took me months to record all those episodes. But the good news is that there is a VOD section in my DVR menu, and in there are all of S2's episodes at least. Shaw may be the best cable provider ever.

Does anyone have an update on when book 6 might be coming out?

So I watched the first 2 episodes of the new season. Some people on other forums are complaining about it, but personally I'm enjoying it as always. They're not going to follow the books down to every detail, it's just not possible, but I like where they're going with it so far.

not much sex and violence so far - yawn (MERICA!)

it will get really exciting again, there are new storylines growing so that tends to make it seem slow. i personally like a build up

I imagine there wil always be a few episodes at the start of every season where a lot of plot-furthering and slow buildup will occur. But anyone who's read the books knows or has a pretty good idea of what's coming.

It's good now as always, but it's going to get a lot more intense in the near future.

There are about half a dozen storylines going right now by my count. Those who haven't read the books have no idea just how many times this plot divides, and if the series even remotely follows the books in that regard there could be as many as ten or more plotlines by next season (or the one after that).

It's hopefully going to be a long series. I have no problem whatever with them taking their time in spots to further the plot along. But then I happen to enjoy the drama and subplotting and intrique going on, both in the interactions of the characters but also in the dialogue itself, thus I don't require there to be constant sex or unending sword-hackings to find entertainment in a series like this.

Love the hot naked girlz lol

hell 2 tha yeah

Thrones is ok, but I have to say that I am more intrigued right now by that Vikings show, which is surprisingly good; whereas, I feel like when I am watching Thrones that I am surprised that they aren't doing a better job with it.

All about expectations though I guess.

So season 3 is now half done. Seems to be some mixed reviews from others but I'm rather enjoying it so far and find myself at the end of every episode wanting more. But having read all the books I'm finding the series a lot easier to follow.


As for book 6, all I can find is that it's still being written and estimated release is 2015. Gad Dammed writers and their "process". :D

I stopped watching after the end of Season 2.. and even then I was rather half-hearted about watching the last couple episodes of Season 2.

From the sounds of it, I'm glad I gave it up :2 cents:

Agree 100% I was totally hooked on it until this happened. After he died it lost all meaning for me and I lasted 4 more episodes. The production quality here is better than most movies though it is quite the accomplishment.

In fairness Vikings(which is a good show) doesn't have to deal with constantly being compared to one of the best book sagas ever written...
I watch both and look forward to each... But it's the next book that I really want.
Someone tell George to start writing and stop banging groupies at comicon!

I picked up on Vikings only a couple weeks ago and watched the season to catch up. Really liking it and the season is already over. I'm not a big crime drama fan but you guys should check out Hannibal...it's pretty insane and I'm hooked.

I second this. Buzz on the web says he's already written a sizeable portion of the sixth book but it still isn't due for release until 2015. I can see another year being needed, but two (or more)?

George, for christ's sake, more writing, less... whatever it is you're doing.

We're six episodes into S3, and at this point I have to say it's a shame you gave up on it when you did. I'm finding this season to be better than S2, but more important than that is this feeling I have that in the final season (and the final books for that matter) when this story is all tied together and all liingering questions are finally answered, the wait will have been worth it ten-fold and then some.

But I'm enjoying the fact that the characters aren't just running around constantly hitting each other with axes, that there is a mult-faceted story and a lot of delayed plot gratification going on... as in a lot of acting rather than just mindless action. Eg; When Varys and Littlefinger have their little private chats some people see it as boring, two older guys yapping for 5 minutes who cares?... but I on the other hand am fascinated by the amount of scheming and intrigue going on in their brief conversations. They cover a lot of ground if one has been paying attention.

But that's really the key to any such mega-series of this scope. One actually does have to pay attention.

Some of you here act like this series is weakening, that it is somehow not worth watching or is inferiior to other series, etc. I can assure those people they are dead wrong.

I love when those two get into one of those scheming or "intellectual" pissing matches. The one they had at the ending of last Sunday's episode was fucking bad ass.