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TheSquealer 06-15-2011 09:12 PM

Wow.. people taking an article in Russia Today (a very biased/anti-western news source) pretty seriously. Most of Russias news tends to be about how shitty it is everywhere else. Same as Soviet news. That's how you distract the herd as you continue to rob the state and crack down on freedom.

:2 cents::2 cents:

phypon 06-15-2011 09:15 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A

skip ahead to 5:00

Joshua G 06-15-2011 09:35 PM

nevermind, already posted.

L-Pink 06-15-2011 09:36 PM

Many of the middle class were existing homeowners that were suddenly flush with huge appreciation equity in their homes. Why not tap this with a quick, 24-48 hours in some cases, 2nd mortgage? This was viewed and in most cases spent like the free money it actually was.

Then the housing bubble explodes, jobs are lost not to return, consumer spending of this free money stops, tax bases decline, etc ......

Life as a middle class American is gone forever for a large percentage of our population.

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buzzard 06-15-2011 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by phypon (Post 18218987)

Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Bullets, Bombs and Banks.

Time to end the "A" point bullshit and focus on "THE" point... Following the constitution :2 cents:
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shade001 06-16-2011 12:18 AM

Well, this is better than everyone calling each other names and asking for bans, I guess. Still, webmasters discussing politics or the economy always gives me a chuckle.

Bill8 06-16-2011 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by buzzard (Post 18219023)
Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Bullets, Bombs and Banks.

Time to end the "A" point bullshit and focus on "THE" point... Following the constitution :2 cents:
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I can't see how following the constitution would affect the economy or the middle class, care to explain how it would?

And what spin are you putting on "following the constitution"?

JFK 06-16-2011 02:45 AM

Fitty bye bye's:pimp

12clicks 06-16-2011 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by webairalex (Post 18217942)
tic toc tic toc..........

http://rt.com/usa/news/workers-usa-middle-class/

The US was once home to the picture-perfect American dream. A house, a car, and a job symbolized the middle class as the core of a prosperous country. Yet for an increasing amount of Americans some or all of these are now out of reach.
?This country was founded on the ideals of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. How can you be happy if you can?t pay your rent? How is this American in any shape or form?? asked journalist and activist Mike Elk.
The new America is littered with millions of homes lost and abandoned with the unemployed officially numbered at over 13 million still queuing to get a job. Does this mean the middle class is disappearing in the US?



?America has gone from being the most egalitarian nation back in the 1960s and early 70s, to now, where the gap between the rich and the poor is the widest in the United States than any of the industrialized nations. So, by every index the middle class is dead in America,? said trends forecaster Gerald Celente.

It's so funny watching the idiot left perpetrate this lie.

12clicks 06-16-2011 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 18218320)
Bone up on non-Texan written books about capitalism. I mean Free Enterprise. Sorry, Texas, don't mean to piss you off.

Ask anyone with a solid education from outside the US about the form of economics and they will confirm that for capitalism to work 5% or less are/must be the mega-rich and 90% are the working class slaves and the other 5% are basically in a knife fight to keep what they once had. FACT.

Our ratios are sliding with peoples ability to pay...Of course they want free porn, they have to have free porn.

Olive what lower middle class calls FACT

crockett 06-16-2011 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 18218216)
That is a huge part of it. Middle class spending is the engine that fuels this economy. Middle class overspending is a different sort of thing.

In a way it is the perfect storm. Jobs were there that allowed people with just a high school diploma to earn enough money to create a middle class life for themselves. It was all good. Those people then used credit to live a bigger, more extravagant life than they would normally live. They overextended themselves, were up to their eyes in debt and living well beyond their means. So long as they had the job they were treading water. Then the job goes away and the new jobs are being made offshore so those middle class wage jobs are no longer in existence.

You do understand a lot has changed in this country that has put the middle class in it's position. Yes the middle class often spends more than they can afford but the bank and financial companies led the horse to the water.

Yes the horse has to drink but it's very big business for CC companies to have customers whom can't afford to pay their bills. They make more money off people whom pay late than off people whom pay on time. This is why CC companies are often all over college campus giving away CC's to college kids that can barely afford to eat ramin noodles.

Not to mention ask your parent if they went to college where they got their loan from. I can almost bet 100% that it was from the govt and not some private industry loan shark as kids deal with today.

The entire corporate America is geared at one thing at that's sucking as much money out of people pockets as they can with little regard to this country or the economy. It's not just people that lost the pride in Made in America it's also the corporate mongols whom forgot that they once also had that same pride in helping build & shape this country.

It's not just the middle class that is fucked but also everyone else because with out the middle class these companies will have no customers.

12clicks 06-16-2011 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 18219407)
You do understand a lot has changed in this country that has put the middle class in it's position. Yes the middle class often spends more than they can afford but the bank and financial companies led the horse to the water.

Yes the horse has to drink but it's very big business for CC companies to have customers whom can't afford to pay their bills. They make more money off people whom pay late than off people whom pay on time. This is why CC companies are often all over college campus giving away CC's to college kids that can barely afford to eat ramin noodles.

Not to mention ask your parent if they went to college where they got their loan from. I can almost bet 100% that it was from the govt and not some private industry loan shark as kids deal with today.

The entire corporate America is geared at one thing at that's sucking as much money out of people pockets as they can with little regard to this country or the economy. It's not just people that lost the pride in Made in America it's also the corporate mongols whom forgot that they once also had that same pride in helping build & shape this country.

It's not just the middle class that is fucked but also everyone else because with out the middle class these companies will have no customers.

do you have a link to these government loans for college from the 60s and 70s?

Also, when corporate america sees itself vilified and its money squandered by politicians not as smart as they are, how do you think they should react?

If the middle class is failing, its no ones fault but their own. However, blaming others for your own problems seems to be the new american way.

kane 06-16-2011 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 18219407)
You do understand a lot has changed in this country that has put the middle class in it's position. Yes the middle class often spends more than they can afford but the bank and financial companies led the horse to the water.

Yes the horse has to drink but it's very big business for CC companies to have customers whom can't afford to pay their bills. They make more money off people whom pay late than off people whom pay on time. This is why CC companies are often all over college campus giving away CC's to college kids that can barely afford to eat ramin noodles.

Not to mention ask your parent if they went to college where they got their loan from. I can almost bet 100% that it was from the govt and not some private industry loan shark as kids deal with today.

The entire corporate America is geared at one thing at that's sucking as much money out of people pockets as they can with little regard to this country or the economy. It's not just people that lost the pride in Made in America it's also the corporate mongols whom forgot that they once also had that same pride in helping build & shape this country.

It's not just the middle class that is fucked but also everyone else because with out the middle class these companies will have no customers.

There are a lot of factors going into what has caused many people to overextend themselves. I was just pointing out what I think is one of the main ones. With our point it isn't just where student loans come from, but the cost of college overall. I graduated high school in 1989. If I wanted to go to U of O (one of the big schools in my state) tuition was around $5,700 per year if you lived on campus. Today it is around $20,000. It seems crazy to me that a person would be $80,000 or more in debt when they leave college. So college costs have quadrupled, but when you adjust for inflation the average household income has barely changed in that same time frame.

Bill8 06-16-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18219534)
If the middle class is failing, its no ones fault but their own. y.

There's a lot of truth to that argument.

BlackCrayon 06-18-2011 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18219338)
It's so funny watching the idiot left perpetrate this lie.

please explain why it is a lie.

12clicks 06-18-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18224222)
please explain why it is a lie.

The American middle class has more now than it ever has and lives much better than the upper middle class of most other countries.

Socks 06-18-2011 12:05 PM

Almost every single country on earth runs incredible deficits and debts without any possibility of ever paying them back.

Why should an individual not take those same advantages?

Socks 06-18-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18224581)
The American middle class has more now than it ever has and lives much better than the upper middle class of most other countries.

Yeah, except they used to own it, and now they rent it all from the bank at high interest levels. Kind of a big difference.

baddog 06-18-2011 12:13 PM

Entitlement strikes again.

12clicks 06-18-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 18224619)
Yeah, except they used to own it, and now they rent it all from the bank at high interest levels. Kind of a big difference.

Incorrect


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