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Theo 06-18-2011 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 18223826)
Also, you know things other people dont know.. and just putting your stats and not giving advie on how to build the empire, IS NOT GOING TO HELP anyone here.. rather just look as a show off, and get rich quick scheme.

IF YOU REALLY WANT to help people, tell them how to build the empire.. what secrets you used to get backlinks and SEO TRAFFIC in thousands of hits (yeah someone will quote and say: Why would he say that?).. And why would he just paste stats and show off? WHY? .

Kevin gave a handful of great advices on his blog network at an interNEXT panel last year.

kane 06-19-2011 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 18225087)
Of course all of what you say is part of building a blog.

The problem is that when you have more than 500 blogs, most of them will receive 5 hits per day and it means, none of those blogs will make a fucking sale ever...

Once you have 500 blogs, you need to update them, and even if you do, it does not mean you will get traffic.

And its impossible to updates so many blogs, unless you pay someone else to do it, and even then, it doesn not mean you will get sales.. because some programs are at 1:5000, because all their content is FREE...

Simple as that.

There are hundreds of webmasters trying to build a blog empire and 95% of them FAIL. Just check nicky's thread (the guy from sweden), yes nicky, quote me if you want.

It is all about which keywords you work in and which niches you choose to work. Sure, you can build blogs that get little or no traffic once they are up and running, but just the opposite is possible too. I have several blogs that are either in the #1 or #2 spot for the chose keyword on google. I have not updated them in months and still hold that position and get decent traffic. Sure, it isn't huge traffic, but it is a few hundred hits per day and works out to about 1 sales every 7-10 days. Because they are very specific keyword phrases the competition is very low and I can hold my spot with little or no work.

As I said, it is a simple concept, but it is not easy to do. If it were easy to do everyone would do it.

BigRod 06-19-2011 03:22 AM

Wow 600 that is HARDCORE! I run 200 myself and need eight days a week to stay on top of it. I publish about 24 posts per day image and about 50/100 words.

AdultKing 06-19-2011 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 18225087)
And its impossible to updates so many blogs, unless you pay someone else to do it, and even then, it doesn not mean you will get sales.. because some programs are at 1:5000, because all their content is FREE...

You're wrong. 600 blogs at 20 updates a day means every blog is updated at least monthly. Unless you are logging in and posting old school to wordpress, this takes a couple of hours a day of hard work at most.

All you need to be able to do is write original, keyword rich, highly readable text and add sponsor content to each post, linking to your program of choice.

A 600 blog network is manageable by one person easily if you are a reasonable writer and have your procedures in place to streamline the process.

John. 06-19-2011 04:57 AM

exxxcellent thread

Inter-Sex 06-19-2011 05:01 AM

Since somebody mentioned before. What was the outcome from the toppic that Nicky ever started.
I remember he starting to work on that toppic, but did it work out for he ?
Did it fail ? (if yes, i'm sorry Nicky, not ment to blame on you)

~ Renaldo,

TubeKing 06-19-2011 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18224519)
I just hired an SEO expert to re-do my entire network

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

sleazydoesit 06-19-2011 06:08 AM

Wow what a great thread! Lamis, go home. MediumPimpin, Kane, everyone else who's kicked in constructive and actionable advice... THANKS!!

I have no intention of producing 600 blogs, or even 60 of them, right away but I would like to think I can get in the 100s by the end of this year. As a super-green n00b in this business the hard part for me is trying to figure out how to interlink the blogs (and other sites I make) in a way that will get noticed by Google but not piss it off. (suggestions welcome, hint hint :) )

Over the past couple of weeks I've been putting up what I suppose would qualify as splogs on free adult blog hosts... that's my attempt at trying to SEO an affiliate site I made... but I think I'm gonna change that strategy! :Oh crap

Kolargol 06-19-2011 07:29 AM

I can't believe it, a biz thread on GFY? With some real info ? WTF?

Agent 488 06-19-2011 07:33 AM

you can lead a lame-ass to knowledge but you can't make him think.

fris 06-19-2011 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18224014)
Lamis, as if he is going to tell you or anyone else what amounts to his trade secrets!

He's been amazingly candid as it is, if you use a little bit of smarts he has already provided you a big free kick in getting started.

he always gets mad when people wont tell him how its done, thats when the insults start flying in.

moeloubani 06-19-2011 08:06 AM

I agree, Lamis, fuck off.

The Porn Nerd 06-19-2011 09:06 AM

I'm still a little unclear about one major point in this thread:

Better to build 600 blogs or better to build a dozen blogs and work them (3-4 interesting and well-written posts a week)? Which has the better potential for more (profitable) traffic?

AdultKing 06-19-2011 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18226006)
I'm still a little unclear about one major point in this thread:

Better to build 600 blogs or better to build a dozen blogs and work them (3-4 interesting and well-written posts a week)? Which has the better potential for more (profitable) traffic?

They different but not mutually exclusive strategies.

If you have a kick ass domain, can build a following on a blog in a particular niche, then thats great. If you can duplicate that a couple of times then that is better.

The more blogs you build, the more man hours of work it will take to maintain them. If you are happy with a couple of solid blogs, with good followings then there is nothing wrong with that strategy.

Agent 488 06-19-2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18226006)
I'm still a little unclear about one major point in this thread:

Better to build 600 blogs or better to build a dozen blogs and work them (3-4 interesting and well-written posts a week)? Which has the better potential for more (profitable) traffic?

do both. make 600 long tail blogs and make some high traffic babeblog/video dump style ones.

this thread is funny in so many ways. if someone wants to make a nice network it's pretty much spelled out with screenshots for proof. anyone with half a brain can find the network and backengineer any other questions about the specifics.

this thread pretty much proves the fault isn't with the adult industry it's with lame-ass.

beks001 06-19-2011 09:20 AM

Wow, lots of real good feedback and action on this thread. Thank you to everyone contributing positively. I appreciate it. Awesome stuff!!!

AmeliaG 06-19-2011 09:38 AM

Your mileage may vary, but I find the blog directories useful to submit to. This is especially the case for small to medium traffic blogs. Higher traffic very custom ones are kind of different in terms of traffic management and links, at least for me. I find Twan's http://www.adultblogresource.com/submitter/ to be the most useful of the bulk submitters.

The Porn Nerd 06-19-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18226015)
They different but not mutually exclusive strategies.

If you have a kick ass domain, can build a following on a blog in a particular niche, then thats great. If you can duplicate that a couple of times then that is better.

The more blogs you build, the more man hours of work it will take to maintain them. If you are happy with a couple of solid blogs, with good followings then there is nothing wrong with that strategy.


This is what I was thinking but it's nice to read confirmation. LOL Thanks!! :)


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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18226017)
do both. make 600 long tail blogs and make some high traffic babeblog/video dump style ones.

this thread is funny in so many ways. if someone wants to make a nice network it's pretty much spelled out with screenshots for proof. anyone with half a brain can find the network and backengineer any other questions about the specifics.

this thread pretty much proves the fault isn't with the adult industry it's with lame-ass.

"Back-engineering" is how I started in this biz, and continue to do this to this day. I ain't into re-inventing the wheel. LOL So do what works.

Most people don't want to work hard, in any area of life. We Americans especially live in a fat, lazy, selfish and childish country so when confronted with - SHOCK! - real work (10-12 hours a day, 6 days a week or more kinda work) we reach for the remote. Sad and pathetic. But there will always be enough of us willing to put in the sweat and hours to succeed so not all Hope is lost. LOL

d-null 06-19-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18226017)
this thread is funny in so many ways. if someone wants to make a nice network it's pretty much spelled out with screenshots for proof. anyone with half a brain can find the network and backengineer any other questions about the specifics.
.

well said and why a thread like this is so annoying and retarded, anyone that is worthy already knows how to figure things out for themselves and even blaze new trails that work if they are so motivated to do so, these kinds of threads just get a whole bunch of dumbasses all excited and then they sign up to the sponsors at the top of the posted stats lists and put up a few shitty blogs and then lose interest when they are still in the hole six months later. someone really should have just bumped nicky's big blog project thread and posted this thread in that thread instead of starting this one :1orglaugh

MediumPimpin 06-19-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18226072)
well said and why a thread like this is so annoying and retarded, anyone that is worthy already knows how to figure things out for themselves and even blaze new trails that work if they are so motivated to do so, these kinds of threads just get a whole bunch of dumbasses all excited and then they sign up to the sponsors at the top of the posted stats lists and put up a few shitty blogs and then lose interest when they are still in the hole six months later. someone really should have just bumped nicky's big blog project thread and posted this thread in that thread instead of starting this one :1orglaugh

Do you have a link to his thread?

AdultKing 06-19-2011 10:31 AM

Keeping a blog network updated doesn't have to seem like hard work.

Get a laptop, I like the Macbook Pro.

Install a really good third party editor for XML-RPC updating.

Use statsremote for quick access to the webmaster area of the programs you promote.

Sit yourself down in front of a good movie, tv series or put some music on and get comfortable on the sofa, feet up, this isn't hard work remember.

If your third party editor is any good all your blogs will be in a nice list, choose one, create a post, hop over to statsremote, click on the program whos content you are going to promote in the post, then grab the content to your downloads folder, copy your desired link code, switch back to your third party editor and start writing adding tags and categories as desired. Upload your images or video just downloaded, make a nice link at the bottom of the post using the copied link code, then repeat.

Before you know it your movie is over, you've created 20 high quality posts and not a bit of it will feel like hard work. Go for a walk, get a change of scenery, come back, relax with your laptop and start again.

You can easily do 50 posts a day and not feel like you have done any work at all.

You just need the right tools and procedures in place, once you get into the groove it's easy.

Quotealex 06-19-2011 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MediumPimpin (Post 18226123)
Do you have a link to his thread?

Here u go https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=832177&highlight=nicky

ottopottomouse 06-19-2011 10:36 AM

Inspirational thread. Can see it leading to lots of started and then abandoned projects in a few weeks though.

Agent 488 06-19-2011 10:36 AM

aside from keyword research / seo and buying domains it could all be outsourced.

Agent 488 06-19-2011 10:37 AM

someone could offer this for a price, paid in monthly installments.

MediumPimpin 06-19-2011 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Quotealex (Post 18226150)

Thanks, um that's a hell of a thread, he did ten blogs split over five niches,

I would have done 10 blogs spread over the same niche, using the exact same content and text.

But I would have used, different themes, set up, and SEO on them, wait a month tweak the one that Google loves and ramp up, but that's just me :)

The Porn Nerd 06-19-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18226155)
aside from keyword research / seo and buying domains it could all be outsourced.

THIS. Exactly my plan. :)
(And keyword research/SEO can be outsourced, too, but you better know what you're doing or the "outsourcers" will rip you off and just spin your wheels.)

fuzebox 06-19-2011 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MediumPimpin (Post 18226190)
Thanks, um that's a hell of a thread, he did ten blogs split over five niches,

I would have done 10 blogs spread over the same niche, using the exact same content and text.

But I would have used, different themes, set up, and SEO on them, wait a month tweak the one that Google loves and ramp up, but that's just me :)

People also don't seem to get that there are complimentary and sub niches, and that your blogs don't have to be just "teen", "big tits", "milf" etc.

Agent 488 06-19-2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18226220)
THIS. Exactly my plan. :)
(And keyword research/SEO can be outsourced, too, but you better know what you're doing or the "outsourcers" will rip you off and just spin your wheels.)

yes i actually enjoy doing that though.

Agent 488 06-19-2011 12:07 PM

there is no money in clogs.

jimmycooper 06-19-2011 12:32 PM

What do you guys think the minimum # of local monthly searches for a long tail would be to where it would still be worth starting an entire blog?

kane 06-19-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18226006)
I'm still a little unclear about one major point in this thread:

Better to build 600 blogs or better to build a dozen blogs and work them (3-4 interesting and well-written posts a week)? Which has the better potential for more (profitable) traffic?

I have seen both done well. There are some people who have a smaller network of 10-15 blogs and they update them every day, sometimes multiple times per day. And it works great for them. They get some nice traffic and likely make some good money from it.

In my mind the question of how successful you will be doing it this way depends on your SEO skill. If you can get ranked well for a big keyword or for a few medium size keywords you could do well. If you can't and you are just relying on bookmakers it might be tougher to succeed with just a few big blogs.

Of course, as it was said, you could do both. Build a couple of "flagship" sites that you updated daily and build a bunch of smaller sites to go with it.

Think of your network as a spider web, the bigger and more intricate the web the better chance you have of catching flies.

jimmycooper 06-19-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 18226362)
I have seen both done well. There are some people who have a smaller network of 10-15 blogs and they update them every day, sometimes multiple times per day. And it works great for them. They get some nice traffic and likely make some good money from it.

In my mind the question of how successful you will be doing it this way depends on your SEO skill. If you can get ranked well for a big keyword or for a few medium size keywords you could do well. If you can't and you are just relying on bookmakers it might be tougher to succeed with just a few big blogs.

Of course, as it was said, you could do both. Build a couple of "flagship" sites that you updated daily and build a bunch of smaller sites to go with it.

Think of your network as a spider web, the bigger and more intricate the web the better chance you have of catching flies.

What do you consider to be small, medium, and large sized keywords?

Markul 06-19-2011 02:43 PM

Good read this thread is :)

AzteK 06-19-2011 02:54 PM

nothing ground breaking, there is so much more to this than mentioned in this post, nice thread nonetheless.

Nicky 06-19-2011 03:35 PM

I'm feeling the love for my blog project thread :1orglaugh

There is money in blogs you gotta be willing to put in a lot of grunt work though...

ohh and...

http://icanhasinternets.com/wp-conte...05/haters6.jpg

bns666 06-19-2011 04:30 PM

600 blogs making all together $20k means each makes ~$30 monthly?

Lamis 06-19-2011 04:58 PM

Ok, everybody, go ahead and waste one year of your life to build a blog empire to promote adult sponsors.

Then remember to come back in 1 year and tell us your results.

95% of those who say that will start a blog network, will either FAIL, QUIT or not do enough money to keep doing it. People like that boulani or something like that are the example.

You cannot sel something that is FREE.

PERIOD.

kane 06-19-2011 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18226475)
What do you consider to be small, medium, and large sized keywords?

For me large keywords are any of the obvious ones like porn, sex, tits, etc. There are also other keywords like amateur porn that get a lot of traffic. Here is how I would break them down by amount of traffic. These are just my own feelings so other people may have other ideas.


I consider a large keyword to be anything that gets 10,000 searches per day ore more.

A medium keyword is anything that gets 2,000-9,999 searches per day

Small is less than 2,000 searches per day.

If there are some good keywords that get less than 500 searches per day I might make one blog that tries to focus on 2-4 of those keywords.

The Porn Nerd 06-19-2011 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 18226657)
Ok, everybody, go ahead and waste one year of your life to build a blog empire to promote adult sponsors.

Then remember to come back in 1 year and tell us your results.

95% of those who say that will start a blog network, will either FAIL, QUIT or not do enough money to keep doing it. People like that boulani or something like that are the example.

You cannot sel something that is FREE.

PERIOD.

Two Points Here:

1. If this were indeed the case - that you can't make money by trying to sell something people can get for free (bottled water is an excellent example) - then all us paysite owners would close up shop. OBVIOUSLY we are making money. How much is open to debate.

2. If our Paysites are making money then logic dictates that a Blog pointing to said Paysite would also produce sales. How many is open to debate.


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