You just have to be creative and try new things. Some things work, some things don't and some things that work today won't work a year from now.
I know that I've personally never submitted anything to a link directory because my opinion is that it seems like it would be a retarded thing to do and that even if most people disagree with that stance right now, they won't for long.
I also feel that, by and large, exchanging links with same niche sites is the online equivalent of placing one end of a big siphon tube into my toilet and then, while carrying the other end, walking outside my apt down the hall and into my neighbors apt so I could place the other end into his toilet and then setting up so as the same dirty water will flow back and forth between the two toilets.
But that's just me.

When 500 people use the same method no matter how good it is, the method gets swamped. When 5,000 use it on multiple products it's all a never ending struggle to to stay where you are.

Awesome. My writers will be happy with that.

So will 500 other writers which makes any advantage null and void.

The most amazing thing about this thread is the complete lack of creativity. You all seem to be doing exactly the same thing, slinging mud at a wall in the hope something will work. Every good idea is leapt on and copied, which doesn't make it a good idea.

A good idea is something that can't be easily copied and still works. The most successful are those who came up with something new, not those who copied everyone else.

God, you're an idiot.

A dumb fucking 80's content seller who is telling EVERYBODY on this board how to run their business. This is just getting too much.
You might actually be the biggest and dumbest troll this board has ever seen.

why would you ask, getting traffic is easy remember.

old man :2 cents:

Yeah, that multiple IP hype is bullshit. Over 3-4 years ago I hosted my blog network (over 100 domains) on 32 IP's, some of them were interlinked, all handwritten. Now this network is hosted (3 years or so...) on two IP's and my SERPs are the same or better.

What's importnant? Unique content, onsite SEO, quality backlinks, low bounce rate.

The easiest job in the world.

So tell me what's wrong with what I said.

Yes Roald getting traffic is easy, getting the fuckers to buy something is King. If the only solution is to copy each other and all try to do the same thing, list on the same lists, use the same tools. There's 500 with 5,000 blogs on the same track.

You got in very early with the message board idea and were clever enough to build it better than the others. Did you do this by copying everyone else or by trying new things?

And that's the problem with online. There are very few innovators, discounting those who innovate the wrong idea. How many Met Art's are there. How many people were getting girls into the back of vans when Bang Bus came out? Which tubes started in 2007 and made it big. Which Tubes started in 2011 and died?

OK blogging is a great idea. A way to capture a possible customer. But if they're all chasing similar key words, using the same lists, tools and writing stuff only for a spider. It's a constant fight to stay still. Because everyone else is doing exactly the same.

Now point out what's wrong with this statement or just come up with the same stupid replies. That's another copycat action. And we have more than enough copiers already.

I do nothing on my sites, except check they run. I had to be told my join page was a mess.

We got 4 sign ups today. So yes getting traffic is the easiest job in the world. I know 4 sign ups isn't going to bring in much. Still it's nice to do that for doing nothing. And the day isn't over yet, maybe we'll get an order on the content store to round the day off. :thumbsup

Your problem is doing what 500 other people are doing and all copying each other. Show us some of your blogs and let's see if they have anything to really offer. Anything that cuts them apart from the 10,000s of porn blogs.

Remember saturation isn't good. :thumbsup

You *may* be ok right now but this year will be the year Google aims to kill thin content.
You need a mix of great written content, social integration and user interaction. This takes more hard work the mass produced crap methods some people suggest.

Morphing feeds are duplicate content, spun content is duplicate content, your content needs to be well written, grammatically correct, quality and original content now. Google is all about reducing the web search footprint, that means crap will be more likely to go than high quality content that get's shared socially.

is that really true or something you've read? why do tubes that scrape videos and descriptions from other tubes have no problem dominating many of the top adult keywords?

It's really true, if you haven't picked up on the signals Google has been sending loud and clear about thin content then you're in for a surprise in 2012.

http://support.google.com/webmasters...n&answer=66361

Read the best SEO sources on Thin Content, Google is broadening the definitions and during 2012 Farmer/Panda will look like a picnic in the park.

Also , when considering ads on your site, read this:

http://searchengineland.com/too-many...ut-algo-108613

"Google will take action against domains that try to rank more highly by just showing scraped or other auto-generated pages that don't add any value to users"

Being the most important part. You will be fine if you write original articles.

Providing it's not "thin content". 150 words for an affiliate link or two is pretty thin.

Google wants to see content rich sites that users enjoy, it doesn't want to see cookie cutter blogs with a hundred words of text, some FHG pics and affiliate links.

With Google you need to read their signals and read between the lines, they're reducing the search footprint, they have to, millions of indians create wordpress sites every day.

Unless your site is full of high quality, original, engaging, shared and socially integrated content then you're going to be fucked by the end of this year.

And what was exactly original about you launching PMT? I mean there were a ton of teen sites already right?

And come on, you didn't make have 4 sales today. Stop fooling yourself ;)

Don't you know? Paul's sites are all highly original. Just as his content. He does something noone else does. I mean it would be ridiculous to open just a teen site as 500 other people are doing it as well. And no way would he run just a content store if 500 other people would do that as well. That would make him look like a total idiot. And we all know Paul isn't.

And yet they aren't talking about that. They simply say they don't want copied content. Unless you have some other sources ofcourse?

learn what google wants from the serps, not seo "theory."

Do you guys read anything outside of GFY ?

If you haven't seen the torrent of comment and opinion about thin content and Google's intention to reduce the search footprint then there's nothing I can do to help you.

Start reading more broadly, read some of the authority sites about search, follow matt cutts on twitter and learn to read between the fucking lines.

you are best to ignore most of that is written about seo. it's pretty much all bullshit.

That's precisely what a site like EzineArticles would have said in 2010. The idea of a farmer/panda update was seo theory then.

yes Matt Cutts is full of bullshit, right, sure, whatever. If you don't follow him on twitter and regularly look for clues on his blog and multiple tweets then you're just fooling yourself.

Btw what do you think of the setup i'm currently working on.

1000 blogs linking to 500 linking to 100 linking to 10 linking to 1.

Not enough information. Are the 1000 blogs full of rich original content ? Google can detect interlinking pretty well, whether using that SEO Hosting scam or not. Why not just have a handful of super high quality blogs which people will naturally share content from ? Blog entries that they'll tweet and retweet, that they'll email to their friends, that contain information people actually want to read or see ?

They will have quite some rich original content yeah. You seem a little obsessed with the content thing. You know there are people who write honest, content rich unique blogs right?
Google will have no problem whatsoever with my blogs as they won't be spammy, fake, full of crap content.
Just get it out of your system dude.

And what hosting scam exactly??
Who is talking about a hosting scam?

Why the fuck am i even asking you. You seem very hostile and act like everybody is wrong by default and you are the Einstein of blogs.
Why don't join up with Paul.

SEO Hosting, ie: hosting provided on multiple IP addresses from different class c networks provides no benefit to you at all with SEO and is therefore a scam.

How do you organize when working with hundreds of blogs? Do you go to wp admin for each domain individually?

i am totally aware of what is written in the seo world moron. but what people theorize and what actually works are too different things.

Which i'm not gonna do?
And a scam? How is that a scam exactly? Everybody is free to host on what ip they want.
Please explain the scam part.

I have the feeling you seem to think (or want to think) that everyone is cheating Google and you are the master blogger out there who seems to know more about Google than Google itself.

Basically i think you're a fucking idiot and you have issues.

only a total noob takes what is written in the seo blogs and such as gospel.

I'm not hostile, I'm just making the point that Google, which accounts for the bulk of search is concentrating on quality metrics when it comes to refining their algorithms.

Google has a quality team, they are trying to reduce the crap on the web, the content that will win out is that which is of high quality, engages users, is shared by people and does not appear designed to be a front for advertising or affiliate marketing. In other words Google wants to provide it's users with the best quality results on page 1.

Unless your sites are better than the best they can be you'll suffer. It's not rocket science. Google has been sending subtle signals for years, Farmer/Panda was a giant signal. This year will be the year they tackle thin content amongst other things.

I don't care if you like what I have to say, whether you disagree with my opinion or whatever. My own testing, slit testing, analysis, use of complex tools all backs up my own views on this. I gain nothing from sharing what I know. Take it or leave it.

you sound like the typical seo theory fanboy. which is fine. less competition for me.

I use Mars Edit, everyone in our team has it installed on their Macs. Other people use Scribefire.