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onwebcam 06-27-2011 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18240918)
Not really sure why if you subscribe to the belief of a supreme being, you have to believe in Santa Clause, which has actually been proven to be a story, by the creators. What's more pathetic is the rationalization about each religion, while also validating your life with relativism. Looking for a logical argument:)

The story of Santa Claus and even the Easter bunny is actually the exact same as the stories "created" in the bible. As in it is based on some factual circumstances and ancient mythology wrapped up to make another story. Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are symbolic and mythological derived from Peganism. Santa's were in fact a Shamen. And Christians unknowingly practice peganism. :1orglaugh

Not religious.

Redrob 06-27-2011 11:51 AM

Correction: Their own "brand" of paganism.......

TheDoc 06-27-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 18242881)
Well, let me put it this way, God did warn us people with faith that doubters and people without faith would corner us to try and sway us from our beliefs. This he predicted in the Bible.

God also told us to stay strong and resist the devils work as he himself would give us the necessary strength to overcome any fears and doubts we may have.

Clearly the human brain is not capable of understanding the whole dimension that is God and prefers to explain the world in simple terms through reasoning on a very primitive level.

God made a promise to his people which says, if I may quote directly from the Bible, Mark 12: 30-41:

We're no strangers to love
you know the rules and so do I
a full commitment's what I'm thinkin' of
you wouldn't get this from any other guy
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up never gonna let you down
never gonna run around and desert you
never gonna make you cry never gonna say goodbye
never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
We've known each other for so long
your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
inside we both know what's been going on
we know the game and we're gonna play it
And if you ask me how I'm feeling
don't tell me you're too blind to see
Never gonna give you up never gonna let you down
never gonna run around and desert you
never gonna make you cry never gonna say goodbye
never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up never gonna let you down
never gonna run around and desert you
never gonna make you cry never gonna say goodbye
never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
:upsidedow

I remember the last time I spoke with god... he said, "don't worry about all that shit some other man wrote." It's even written down, in a book, that I made Doc 13: 1..... You should put blind faith in my words as well, it's no different than putting faith in the words you shared.

TheDoc 06-27-2011 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cam_girls (Post 18241699)
I saw an angel yesterday!

Real photos like that simply don't exist in the atheist universe!

Can't you see the lifelike images?


Schizophrenic much?

cam_girls 06-27-2011 11:29 PM

Check out this time lapse video of the Angel and Ogre clouds forming!

How do you explain just before dark the clouds

4 Gray THE END









http://photosofclouds.com/GHOSTS_Angel_Ogre.png

Paul Markham 06-28-2011 03:02 AM

God is a figment of the imaginations of rulers. He's been talking to our "better" for millennium. They come and tell us all the time what he wants us to do. Which coincidently happens to benefit them.

Read the Old Testament to see who they say this guy God is. He had no problem drowning every living being, except two of every animal and Noah's family. Because, according to our betters, we weren't doing it right.

Then look at Sodom and Gomorrah. He didn't like what they were doing so decided to obliterate the whole city, again including the animals.

Then there were the Jews leaving Israel, he had no problem with the plagues and even the deaths of the eldest male child and then drowned the Egyptian Army.

When the Israelites decided to settle in Canaan he had no problem telling them to kill all the Cannites, again the animals got killed (what is it he has against the animals? It's not like they did anyone any harm.)

All the above have been proved to be bullshit lies. But very handy if you want to scare the living daylights out of ignorant people.

And it doesn't end in pre history. The rapture is a relative new thing dreamed up when some girl had a vision and the local priest decided to make something of it. And the last Pope who happens to be on his way to being a Saint. Told people not to use condom as they were no protection against s AIDS. Which lots of ignorant people did and they're now in Heaven. Or just dead.

And don't start me on Muslims.

Danny B 06-28-2011 06:35 AM

Nuff said, the new messiah is here:

HarryMuff 06-28-2011 07:57 AM

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$5 submissions 06-28-2011 06:11 PM

When I was "religious" as a young kid growing up in a Filipino Catholic household, I would read the Bible and hear sermons about Jesus and the people he healed. He would heal lepers, forgive sinners, etc. I was "religious" back then so I saw myself as OTHER THAN and BETTER THAN the people Jesus was was working with.

As I got older and as the years went by, I realized that *I* was the leper, the sinner, the tax collector, and the miscellaneous "undesirables" that Jesus came to heal, forgive, and comfort. People find that hard to believe but Grace doesn't come to those who think they have it all figured out. It's hard to see someone who is PROUD and CONFIDENT of his success, of his place in the world, AND of his power to humble himself and say "YES, there's something WRONG with me. I don't know everything. It isn't ABOUT ME".

Yeah, the older I get the more I realize that I am the leper, the prostitute, the tax collector, the bad guy. But Jesus doesn't care about your past. The problem isn't the Truth and Jesus. The problem are always the "Tall" people around Jesus. The ones who crowd around him--wrapped in their self-righteousness and all to eager to CONDEMN those that don't "measure up." Thankfully, the Gospel shows that you can't WORK your way to heaven because let's face it, all of us are SCUM and deserve only DEATH if the LAW is the only measure. But Jesus doesn't care about your past and gives you the free gift of his Grace. This grace is the only thing that can empower people to even THINK of following his Law.

So am I religious? I hope not. The classic example of religiosity often involves self-righteous people pushing out the LEPERS out of their churches and Killing infidels in the name of God. How can you kill in the name of Love? The sad irony of that always gets me.

I'm not religious. I'm just a leper looking for healing. Day in. Day out.

I wish you all peace!

_Richard_ 06-28-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob (Post 18240874)
Joseph Campbell made the following observation:

He asked do you know what a metaphor is?

Ex 1: John fights like a bear. (No, it is a simile)

Ex 2: John is a bear. (Yes, it is a metaphor)


He then observed that God is a metaphor for the great unknown mysteries of life: our purpose, our afterlife, our beginning, etc., and the metaphor predates modern science.

He then realized that there were basically two types of people:

Type 1: Those who accept the metaphor as fact, ie. "absolute truth". They are the religious believers.

and,

Type 2: Those who accept the metaphor as a metaphor. They are the agnostics who believe that any ultimate reality is unknown and probably unknowable.

If you are a Type 1, no scientific facts will ever change your mind as your beliefs are not founded in reality; but, belief in the reality of a metaphor.

At least I get to enjoy my Sundays off from work.:2 cents:

beware the well-fed philosopher..

D-man 06-29-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedi (Post 18240784)
If so, why and what religion? What brought you into it?

If not, why not?

I grew up catholic, turned agnostic at about 16 years old and stayed that way. It just seemed easier to not care.


Okay Dedi shows us on the doll where the priest touched you! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

nikki99 06-29-2011 12:39 PM

fuck religion fuck! :mad:

cam_girls 06-29-2011 12:54 PM

The truth about religion...

Creation of Adam and Eve was the FINAL END TO EVOLUTION in OUR PRESENT!

Adam and Eve are the LAST HOMOSAPIENS not the FIRST!

Religion is the story of the Destiny of Adam reaching Eve... covered by the Truman Show on your TV every night in disguise as other characters.

So the twist is...... NONE OF YOU ARE REAL HUMANS!! :)

Adam & Eve
KINGS Beach, QUEENSland


http://photosofclouds.com/GENIE_Kings_Beach.png



http://photosofclouds.com/GENIE_genie_enhanced.png






About modern day Adam and Eve




About Adam

TheDoc 06-29-2011 01:28 PM

Adam and Eve fucked and had kids... those kids fucked and spawned 6 billion people. IE: Cam girls is the result of inbreeding.

A&E are a metaphor that covers creation of all things.

Andreas 06-29-2011 03:02 PM

I was Catholic then i grew up and stopped believing in fairy tales.

B.Barnato 06-29-2011 05:09 PM

http://i.imgur.com/gyEQB.jpg

cam_girls 06-29-2011 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18248712)
Adam and Eve fucked and had kids... those kids fucked and spawned 6 billion people. IE: Cam girls is the result of inbreeding.

A&E are a metaphor that covers creation of all things.


Yeh random clouds appear over Kings Beach with the words


http://photosofclouds.com/GENIE_Kings_Fish.png




Kings Beach Fish

written in the sky over a vortex with a Genie in it, a little devil doing the graffiti, the hand of God, a woman kneeling, then a minute later the Genie hovers over the vortex....


http://photosofclouds.com/GENIE_genie_enhanced.png



and it's a METAPHOR!


because it's a well known fact you can see anything in clouds if you look hard enough!


http://photosofclouds.com/gfx/PEOPLE_taking_photo.jpg

jigg 06-29-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 18246638)
When I was "religious" as a young kid growing up in a Filipino Catholic household, I would read the Bible and hear sermons about Jesus and the people he healed. He would heal lepers, forgive sinners, etc. I was "religious" back then so I saw myself as OTHER THAN and BETTER THAN the people Jesus was was working with.

As I got older and as the years went by, I realized that *I* was the leper, the sinner, the tax collector, and the miscellaneous "undesirables" that Jesus came to heal, forgive, and comfort. People find that hard to believe but Grace doesn't come to those who think they have it all figured out. It's hard to see someone who is PROUD and CONFIDENT of his success, of his place in the world, AND of his power to humble himself and say "YES, there's something WRONG with me. I don't know everything. It isn't ABOUT ME".

Yeah, the older I get the more I realize that I am the leper, the prostitute, the tax collector, the bad guy. But Jesus doesn't care about your past. The problem isn't the Truth and Jesus. The problem are always the "Tall" people around Jesus. The ones who crowd around him--wrapped in their self-righteousness and all to eager to CONDEMN those that don't "measure up." Thankfully, the Gospel shows that you can't WORK your way to heaven because let's face it, all of us are SCUM and deserve only DEATH if the LAW is the only measure. But Jesus doesn't care about your past and gives you the free gift of his Grace. This grace is the only thing that can empower people to even THINK of following his Law.

So am I religious? I hope not. The classic example of religiosity often involves self-righteous people pushing out the LEPERS out of their churches and Killing infidels in the name of God. How can you kill in the name of Love? The sad irony of that always gets me.

I'm not religious. I'm just a leper looking for healing. Day in. Day out.

I wish you all peace!


actually, well said

CDSmith 06-29-2011 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 18246638)
When I was "religious" as a young kid growing up in a Filipino Catholic household, I would read the Bible and hear sermons about Jesus and the people he healed. He would heal lepers, forgive sinners, etc. I was "religious" back then so I saw myself as OTHER THAN and BETTER THAN the people Jesus was was working with.

As I got older and as the years went by, I realized that *I* was the leper, the sinner, the tax collector, and the miscellaneous "undesirables" that Jesus came to heal, forgive, and comfort. People find that hard to believe but Grace doesn't come to those who think they have it all figured out. It's hard to see someone who is PROUD and CONFIDENT of his success, of his place in the world, AND of his power to humble himself and say "YES, there's something WRONG with me. I don't know everything. It isn't ABOUT ME".

Yeah, the older I get the more I realize that I am the leper, the prostitute, the tax collector, the bad guy. But Jesus doesn't care about your past. The problem isn't the Truth and Jesus. The problem are always the "Tall" people around Jesus. The ones who crowd around him--wrapped in their self-righteousness and all to eager to CONDEMN those that don't "measure up." Thankfully, the Gospel shows that you can't WORK your way to heaven because let's face it, all of us are SCUM and deserve only DEATH if the LAW is the only measure. But Jesus doesn't care about your past and gives you the free gift of his Grace. This grace is the only thing that can empower people to even THINK of following his Law.

So am I religious? I hope not. The classic example of religiosity often involves self-righteous people pushing out the LEPERS out of their churches and Killing infidels in the name of God. How can you kill in the name of Love? The sad irony of that always gets me.

I'm not religious. I'm just a leper looking for healing. Day in. Day out.

I wish you all peace!

Winner: best post in thread.

I especially enjoyed the paragraph this little gem was in: "Grace doesn't come to those who think they have it all figured out."

Many in this thread think they have it all figured out.


As to the original question, me and organized religion parted ways a long time ago. But if the OP is asking "do you have a faith?" that's entirely another matter. Having a spiritiual belief system IE; faith, in one's life and being "religious" are two different things entirely in my view.

Juicy D. Links 06-29-2011 07:41 PM

I am a Atheist Jew


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