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chaze 06-27-2011 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 18241350)
Is it too much that I want:

a) the attacking dog to be killed
b) the owner to pay for our dog

?

That dog costs motherfucking 2000 dollars!

It traumatized the hell out of the kids, too bad I wasn't there when it happened, I'd have pwned the attacking dog and put it to sleep right there and then :mad:

It's not the dogs fault it's the parents. They should pay for a new one a fine and have the dog removed from their home and not be able to buy a dog 5 years.

Markul 06-27-2011 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18241575)
You and your girlfriend are both clueless idiots and should be banned from owning dogs. BOTH OF YOU should be banned from owning pets from here on in.

What kind of idiot brings a "tiny dog" into another dogs territory? If i had it my way you would never be allowed to own pets again as you and your girlfriend are both completely clueless.

You people buy these "cute" dogs, shit goes wrong and everyone else is to blame. Here is a tip look in the mirror.

Next time leave your toy dog inside so the rest of the world doesnt have to worry about shitty owners.

I am frankly tired of this world and all the pussies in it.

It is like small guys getting into fights and getting beaten to a pulp by a bigger guy and the big guy is the bad guy. Use your brain.

You Sir are a fucking moron and an asshole. Call me a pussy to my face please, you no good fucking keyboard warrior - your probably a pathetic fat uneducated redneck :321GFY

I grew up on a farm you clueless dipshit, I wasn't there when it happened you fucking asshole. Learn how to read. Moron.

Markul 06-27-2011 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel (Post 18242181)
First off I am sorry your dog had to die it could of been avoided and its never easy to lose a member of the family pet or not.

Second I have to add you need to step back and keep a level head because this is just as much your girlfriends fault as the big dogs owner. Why do you think dog parks have seperation? Not all big dogs hate small dogs or have ever had an issuue bitting any dog. Fact is dogs are animals and no level of training can take that away.

It is poor animal care on both owners fault for not keeping.both dogs on a leash go see how they act together esp in another dogs home. You never ever assume anything and when.you do Shit like this happends.

Once again im sorry for your loss but that big dog does not deserve punishment if anything your wife and yourself and big dog owner need to take classes on animal behavior.

Thanks.

I do agree that my gf is to blame here, but she was following instructions of a professional - so you could argue that she though it was safe. I agree 100% that they should not have been with leashes when they didn't know each other.

But I can't tell my gf that right now, it'll have to wait until she's "over" it.

BUT being a pro that invited her into her home, she should know how her animals would react to strangers and this was no educating bite, it was a kill thing. Also it was not a case of HUGE dog vs. TINY dog. It was smallish dog versus tiny dog/puppy (he was 6 months old).

I appreciate all the good wishes and educative posts, thanks. I'm not really the one primarly in charge of the pets. Hell I'm almost always at work anyways.

I guess I was venting my frustration here, as many do. Danish law is clear on this matter and I will take all of it up with the police and insurance company. So I guess my initial question was more of a rhetorical nature.

Markul 06-27-2011 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18241580)
This quote here just shows what your true colors are like.

Yea sure, assume shit moron. I'm putting you on ignore, you clueless fucker.

dc0ded 06-27-2011 01:11 AM

I can understand your loss man... Around 6 months back my puppy was stolen. I still wonder where and how it would be now. :(

TB Adriana 06-27-2011 04:00 AM

I'm sorry about your loss, really, I know how it feels. My cocker spaniel passed away last week after 15 years with me and my family...

seeandsee 06-27-2011 04:32 AM

Sue the shit out of him if he dont want to pay

candyflip 06-27-2011 04:45 AM

So your little dog was unleashed in another dog's territory and you blame the owner and other dog?

Sorry for your loss, but to blame the other when your dog was IN THEIR domain is retarded.

As they say, there are no stupid dogs...only stupid owners.

candyflip 06-27-2011 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 18242235)
You Sir are a fucking moron and an asshole. Call me a pussy to my face please, you no good fucking keyboard warrior - your probably a pathetic fat uneducated redneck :321GFY

I grew up on a farm you clueless dipshit, I wasn't there when it happened you fucking asshole. Learn how to read. Moron.

Some times the truth hurts. Sorry.

Gerco 06-27-2011 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 18241413)
Pretty much explains it.

Doh....

Lets see...


Strange Tiny rat of a dog is running loose around bigger dogs territory. Gives unwanted attention to bigger dog and bigger dog defends its territory. Rat dog is such a frail example of the canine species that said attack kills it.

Sounds like Darwin to me.

Gerco 06-27-2011 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18242476)
so your little dog was unleashed in another dog's territory and you blame the owner and other dog?

Sorry for your loss, but to blame the other when your dog was in their domain is retarded.

As they say, there are no stupid dogs...only stupid owners.

x2..........

BTW... I currently own 22 (Yes Twenty Two) Great Danes and 1 Pomeranian. Any one of the Danes could step on the pom and kill it. Even by accident. So they have been introduced to each other correctly, and are not allowed to play with each other (read are kept separated) There is no reason for the pom to be playing with the danes. To a big dog these toy breeds are nothing more than a furry squeak toy. To blame them for being dogs is stupid. That little dog should not have been around anything larger in the first place, let alone off lease with one it it's own territory. Do a little study on dogs and how the territory thing works next time. To come here after the fact and whine and bitch is retarded. Blame the owners of the bigger dog? Retarded. Even the smallest flash of common sense should have prevented the encounter in the first place. Anyone that knows anything about dogs is going to say the same thing to you. There is a reason that even at dog parks. They separate the areas by size.

michael.kickass 06-27-2011 05:56 AM

Man, I'm sorry for your dog.

ajrocks 06-27-2011 05:57 AM

It isn't the dogs fault. It's always the owner that doesn't know how to control their animal. They should pay, and their dog should be taken away and given to someone who is able to care for the dog.

Sophie Delancey 06-27-2011 06:35 AM

I'm so sorry for your loss! My cat is randomly limping and I'm losing my shit/heading to the vet, so I can only imagine how terrible you feel.

candyflip 06-27-2011 06:38 AM

I really am sorry for your loss, but to talk about killing the other dog and beating up the owner. That just makes no sense to me.

It was a fucking dog, be thankful one of your kids didn't get mauled or killed.

biskoppen 06-27-2011 06:44 AM

I'm very sorry for your loss.. have two dogs myself

That being said, this is a result of the lag of knowledge about how to introduce two new dogs.. that has to be on neutral ground.. letting a small dog meet a new bigger dog in his home is not a good idea at all.

Phoenix 06-27-2011 06:47 AM

sorry to hear about your dog man...that must suck

L-Pink 06-27-2011 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18242604)

It was a fucking dog, be thankful one of your kids didn't get mauled or killed.

My "fucking dog" means more to me than anything or anyone. She definitely means more to me than most humans I have ever met.


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L-Pink 06-27-2011 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 18242518)

BTW... I currently own 22 (Yes Twenty Two) Great Danes

My God just thinking of the quantity of dog shit you have to deal with grosses me out ... :Oh crap

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biskoppen 06-27-2011 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18242653)
My "fucking dog" means more to me than anything or anyone. She definitely means more to me than most humans I have ever met.


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Yeah, but alot of people have a very strange relationship to animals.. for many of them its just a tool or something put away suffering untill its slaughtered and eaten by us.

candyflip 06-27-2011 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18242653)
My "fucking dog" means more to me than anything or anyone. She definitely means more to me than most humans I have ever met.
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I felt the same way. Then I had children.

Regardless, talking about physically harming a human being over an animal is retarded. I really can't think of a better word.

Tom_PM 06-27-2011 07:02 AM

Sorry for your loss. Yes the owner should pay the value. In our society, pets are property. So of course that must be replaced. Take her to court if you have to, it's an open and shut case in terms of property.

CyberHustler 06-27-2011 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 18241400)
Both dogs were not on leashes, they were in the attacking dogs home

http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/36525.jpg

Sorry for your loss. Hopefully a lesson learned here.

SmokeyTheBear 06-27-2011 07:20 AM

2 unleashed dogs = equal blame

on a sidenote.. if you stuck your nose up my bum i would bite your head as well.

Sucks about your dog. Sucks about your gf.

You should be more concerned with the children than the dogs or the money.

candyflip 06-27-2011 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18242672)
Sorry for your loss. Yes the owner should pay the value. In our society, pets are property. So of course that must be replaced. Take her to court if you have to, it's an open and shut case in terms of property.

You need to reread the entire story. It's open and shut, but surely not in his favor.

PR_Glen 06-27-2011 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by garce (Post 18241381)
I wouldn't actually give a shit about how much my dog costs - my last puppy (15 months old now) cost about $200.

I would be on a baseball bat wielding rampage if some clueless dipshit let his big dog attack my little boy.

I'm really sorry for your loss, but you should be more upset about losing a member of the family than losing 2 grand. Next time, go to a rescue and grab a mutt. Status symbols are worth nothing when they're dead.

status symbols? they are call pure breads.. status has nothing to do with it.. you want a dog with birth defects, diseases and behavioral problems keep buying up those 200 dollar mutts man...

what do you think happens to those mutts that people don't pay the 200 for?

haha status symbol...

PR_Glen 06-27-2011 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 18242518)
x2..........

BTW... I currently own 22 (Yes Twenty Two) Great Danes and 1 Pomeranian. Any one of the Danes could step on the pom and kill it. Even by accident. So they have been introduced to each other correctly, and are not allowed to play with each other (read are kept separated) There is no reason for the pom to be playing with the danes. To a big dog these toy breeds are nothing more than a furry squeak toy. To blame them for being dogs is stupid. That little dog should not have been around anything larger in the first place, let alone off lease with one it it's own territory. Do a little study on dogs and how the territory thing works next time. To come here after the fact and whine and bitch is retarded. Blame the owners of the bigger dog? Retarded. Even the smallest flash of common sense should have prevented the encounter in the first place. Anyone that knows anything about dogs is going to say the same thing to you. There is a reason that even at dog parks. They separate the areas by size.

I know lots about dogs, enough to know this is horse shit...

any dog park i have been to they have separate areas for smaller dogs but nobody uses them, except for puppies, why? because people are responsible with their dogs and don't let them act all wild without some control. A healthy dog should play with all other dogs and not get too rough. If they act up or start biting at other dogs people ask them to please leave, because it is frowned upon to have a dog who can't get along with others in a dog park. Seems to make sense doesn't it?

Dane's, wolfhounds, chow chows, Labs, spaniels, bulldogs, besengi's, jack russels you name it! all getting along and playing together and nobody ever getting hurt... would you bring your dog to a park ever if it wasn't like that? of course not.

Maybe you should hire a trainer to work with your dogs instead and slow down on the puppy mill you have going on over there and they wouldn't be such a liability to other dogs...

Far-L 06-27-2011 09:16 AM

You admit that your gf was at fault and you still want to put the other dog down? That is fucked up. It would be another matter if the dog ran outside, off the owner's property, and attacked your dog - then you could blame the owner and the dog. However, by your own admission, the dog was brought into the home and improperly supervised... how is that the fault of the dog?

Left to their own devices, dogs would ordinarily kill runts in the the litter, not take them and make them into $2000 dollar vanities of status.

If you grew up on a farm then you know that.

_Richard_ 06-27-2011 09:36 AM

sorry to hear :(

TurboAngel 06-27-2011 11:51 AM

Sorry for your loss but you both are to blame IMO.

ottopottomouse 06-27-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 18242698)
on a sidenote.. if you stuck your nose up my bum i would bite your head as well.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Gerco 06-27-2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18242975)
I know lots about dogs, enough to know this is horse shit...

any dog park i have been to they have separate areas for smaller dogs but nobody uses them, except for puppies, why? because people are responsible with their dogs and don't let them act all wild without some control. A healthy dog should play with all other dogs and not get too rough. If they act up or start biting at other dogs people ask them to please leave, because it is frowned upon to have a dog who can't get along with others in a dog park. Seems to make sense doesn't it?

Dane's, wolfhounds, chow chows, Labs, spaniels, bulldogs, besengi's, jack russels you name it! all getting along and playing together and nobody ever getting hurt... would you bring your dog to a park ever if it wasn't like that? of course not.

Maybe you should hire a trainer to work with your dogs instead and slow down on the puppy mill you have going on over there and they wouldn't be such a liability to other dogs...

Not sure exactly WTF your talking about. But, yes we do do a little breeding, and we travel the show circuit, all in an effort to bring the Dane bace to it's true glory. By no means a "puppy mill" as you put it. Our dogs are constantly winning top of their class. We even go so far as to show natural... Meaning NO CROP... cause we feel cropping serves no purpose in a modern dane and is cruel.

As to the poop....

Yes, there is a lot of it, so we have a custom septic system installed for the kennels. You actually wouldn't see any mess (unless they just crapped) Simple, basically hands free cleanup.

Our dogs are part of our family and enjoy playtime, lots of land to run and play together etc. I take extreme pride in them. But on that note, 12 of our danes are adults, and 10 of them puppies. (one litter that we had 3 weeks ago) A top show bitch and we traveled halfway across the country to mate her with a suitable show male. We have never had an instance of uncontrolled breeding. and limit ourselves to at MOST 2 litters a year.

If you think we take these dogs to dog parks your very wrong....

I use to take my English Mastiff to a local park when I still lived up north. Totally segregated park by the dogs size.... regardless of the rules, only and idiot is going to put a 1 pound dog in the same playground as a 220+ pound dog... or even the smaller 70 pounders that ran played and jumped having fun. If you think different then, well, I guess you'll have a similar thread here in the future whining about how little tinkle got the shit stepped stomped of him and how somehow it's everyone else's fault....

Tom_PM 06-27-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18242704)
You need to reread the entire story. It's open and shut, but surely not in his favor.

The homeowner is responsible for controlling their dog. Even if their dog gets out of their well fenced yard and eats another dog for breakfast, the owner is still responsible under the law.

papill0n 06-27-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18242659)
I felt the same way. Then I had children.

Regardless, talking about physically harming a human being over an animal is retarded. I really can't think of a better word.

If you hurt my dog I would put you in hospital. Every day of the fucking week.

flashfire 06-27-2011 01:20 PM

well I dont think you need to beat anyone up they probably just as bad as you guys

candyflip 06-27-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18243524)
The homeowner is responsible for controlling their dog. Even if their dog gets out of their well fenced yard and eats another dog for breakfast, the owner is still responsible under the law.

What you are saying is correct, if the dog get's out. What you seem to be missing is that...his girlfriend and the unleashed dog that died were INSIDE THE NEIGHBORS HOUSE (ie. the other dog's territory).

Completely neglecting that one important bit of information makes a HUGE bit of difference in your arguement.

candyflip 06-27-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 18243542)
If you hurt my dog I would put you in hospital. Every day of the fucking week.

And you'd be out a lot of money and probably spend some time in jail.

If someone or their dog were to come at my children in a similar manner, I could blow both their heads off and probably be considered a hero for it.

There's a big different between a human life and that of an animal. I didn't make that rule, society did.

This guy put the blame on someone else, got angry because he overpaid for the dead dog, and then contemplated physically harming both the owner of the other dog and the dog...and you want to justify that? Like I said, I can see someone going nuts if their children were hurt here, but it's not anywhere close to being on the same level.

Markul 06-27-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 18242518)
x2..........

BTW... I currently own 22 (Yes Twenty Two) Great Danes and 1 Pomeranian. Any one of the Danes could step on the pom and kill it. Even by accident. So they have been introduced to each other correctly, and are not allowed to play with each other (read are kept separated) There is no reason for the pom to be playing with the danes. To a big dog these toy breeds are nothing more than a furry squeak toy. To blame them for being dogs is stupid. That little dog should not have been around anything larger in the first place, let alone off lease with one it it's own territory. Do a little study on dogs and how the territory thing works next time. To come here after the fact and whine and bitch is retarded. Blame the owners of the bigger dog? Retarded. Even the smallest flash of common sense should have prevented the encounter in the first place. Anyone that knows anything about dogs is going to say the same thing to you. There is a reason that even at dog parks. They separate the areas by size.

That's a lot of dogs.

Well we had 2 poms now 1. The dog that killed it was a Danish Swedish Farm Dog. A dog that's usually known for being good around animals. How were we to know that it'd turn psycho on us. She was supposed to be a pro.

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Far-L You admit that your gf was at fault and you still want to put the other dog down? That is fucked up. It would be another matter if the dog ran outside, off the owner's property, and attacked your dog - then you could blame the owner and the dog. However, by your own admission, the dog was brought into the home and improperly supervised... how is that the fault of the dog?

Left to their own devices, dogs would ordinarily kill runts in the the litter, not take them and make them into $2000 dollar vanities of status.

If you grew up on a farm then you know that.
Well she should've been a better judge of character and reacted faster. That doesn't mean that the owner of the attacking dog can walk away from this and she won't.

Your comment about vanities of status just displays your ignorance, as someone pointed out the money was paid cause it was a purebred. Has nothing to do with status, wtf kind of faggot do you take me for. Having a tiny pom as a status symbol :1orglaugh

But I've been doing some digging. She's on welfare. She doesn't pay taxes from her side effect. She refuses to let me know what her insurance company is, probably because she has none.

So she's violating the law on numerous levels and when I'm done with her, she won't have a single animal left. She'll be fined and has to pay a ton of taxes that she cheated society for.

All she had to do was acknowledge that the dog was nuts, had to be put down and that she'd pay the property that was destroyed.

Yes we loved the dog to death, wanting the "material" losses covered does not make one less of a human being imo. But yea, in hindsight, I should've expressed myself clearer in my initial post. I was pretty pissed heh. Still am tbh, but from now on the police and lawyers will do the work.

Again thanks for all the sympathy. Sorry for the ranting.

L-Pink 06-27-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18243569)

There's a big different between a human life and that of an animal. I didn't make that rule, society did.

Your statement needs the word "legally" installed as the first word.

As far as an animals meaning to someones life that is completely different.

Since money is a concern for the OP the dogs meaning to him is obvious.

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Rochard 06-27-2011 02:16 PM

You intentionally brought your little dog into the house of a much larger dog, didn't have either dog on a leash, and.... Well, you get what you deserve.

We have a dog park a few blocks from us, and there have a large area for big dogs and a small area for smaller dogs. Some idiot brought their little dog into the big pen, and the dog got slaughtered and died a few hours later. I didn't feel sorry for him; That's what you get when you fail to protect your dog.

Dogs that fit in a purse don't belong playing with big dogs.


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