Bad for who?

Question I have is how did so many people know where the body was "generally speaking" but wasn't found till December.

2 PI's, Krunk, and the psychic

How much bad faith do you see?

dude looks like scooby doo villian. i might actually tune in to court highlights today for kicks

http://blinkoncrime.com/wp-content/u.../roy-kronk.jpg

The two PIs were working with the psychic.

The psychic actually had the right area. One PI walked around while talking with the psychic on the phone trying to get a sense of where to look. He should have been organizing a through search of the entire area instead. The second PI spent most of the time sitting in the car and video taping the other PI looking around. His intentions were to sell the tape to the media if they got lucky and found the remains. They showed the taped yesterday in court and the two PIs were lazy and stupid. Their search was by no means as through as the ones conducted by the equsearch teams.

Krunk was in the area as a meter reader and was taking a piss in the edge of the woods and saw the garbage bag. He called it in and the sheriffs sent out a deputy to investigate. The lazy Deputy failed to do a thorough search saying there was too much water and he had seen a snake. He was very close but didn't put in the effort to discover the remains.

Krunk doesn't hear anything about the garbage bag but can't let it go as he thinks he found it. Time goes by and he feels he needs to take a second look. I'm not sure about this but I believe the second time he actually moves the garbage bag and the skull actually falls out. He was with a co worker and has him call 911 to say that he defiantly has the remains this time.

A black garbage bag laying flat on the muddy ground with plants growing over it would be hard to spot in the wooded underbrush. That's something you could pass five feet from and not notice it so its understandable that the dumb ass PIs could walk right passed it.

There is no excuse for the deputy not doing a proper search. He should have actually found the garbage bag in question and not give up because he didn't want to get his shoes muddy. That fuckup cost a lot of time and important DNA evidence was lost.

I find it bizarre how trials in the US are played out like some TV drama. Great TV though.

I am not following it too closely, as it is yet another distraction, but from I've seen/heard so far, there is zero chance they will find this chick guilty of first degree murder.

I think we look a little alike, Krunk is a good looking lad.

Bad for the prosecutor, if he doesn't sound credible.

Why, U.S. citizens are controlled by their Media, it's what makes them unique.

I miss blind date, I ❤'d that show.

I haven't watched much of it other than what's on the news here. I thinks she's a wack job.

Casey Killed her child, Casey either paid or gave sex to Krunk to hide the body!

post evidence now! :pimp:mad:

Overall I like your theory. If the truth is anything even close to that, and they can prove it to a degree that is convictable, she (and anyone else involved) should rot in prison for a very long time.

There's definitely something very wrong with this chick, regardless of outcome.

She's a cruel monster. Hope she burns

Krunky Krunk is on the hot seat now.

Interesting, Krunk got a bunch of money and free attorney's fee's.

He also bragged about what was in the bag, before it had been opened.

The entire family and the people around them are trash. :2 cents:

just my opinion. but the cover up was so completely awful, its impossible for me to believe it was a pre-meditated death. If daddy was involved, or if casey was less retarded, they could have easily gotten away with this.

my guess is murder 2.

There are millions of highly emotional people following this case and as a result everyone connected to this case will live out an OJ Simpson type of existence. They will always be in a prison regardless of what happens.:2 cents:

Fry the bitch!

That was just a guess, and now that I watched Krunk, I withdraw my statement (guess)

Krunk besides a few small story changes, and yes everyone has them, is a strong witness. I am not sure it worked out for the Defense with him, lol.

Except his testimony that he lifted the bag with his meter stick, all of a sudden found the skull by his feet and lifted it up by meter stick through right eye socket.

That coupled with him seeing a gray bag with a skull outside the bag 4 months prior.

It's the duct tape on the mouth that is circumstantial evidence toward 1st degree murder. Now they are going to say the duct tape that closed the bag could have easily attached itself to the rolling skull.

Sorry...but you are confused about his testimony.

I don't think so. At first his statement was he lifted the bag and saw the skull.

On the stand he said he lifted the bag and then realized skull was by his feet... rotated/lifted it with his meter stick through right eye socket. That's what he said

He did say that he lifted the skull but did not say that he lifted the bag...in fact I think he stated that he never touched the bag and I also think that the skull was in fact some distance away from the bag.

I will not argue the point but I watched all of his testimony and I do not think the Defense put a mark upon his testimony or him personally.

I haven't watched any of this case, but I agree with you on the Peterson one. I think he is in prison because he didn't grieve in a manner that people thought he should.

He specifically said he lifted the bag about 4 feet off the ground.

I missed this part of the prosecutors evidence but wasn't the bag found actually black, not grey?

The most obvious garbage bag is black, if it somewhat resembled black the 3 phone calls by Kronk would have said black in August. He specifically said grey. Coupled with both the skull outside the bag in August then skull in the bag, or outside, or somehow ended up by his feet in December makes no sense. Plus the closing is going to say the locations were much different... likely 100's of feet I think.

Prosecution is already planting that a hurricane happened between that time flooding the area and "possible" reason why locations are different.

The guy wanted money... knew he found the remains of the girl in August if not sooner, and tried to figure out the best way to capitalize. He probably went back in August and bagged the remains and moved them and was waiting for the opportune time to try and collect the money.

Did you see him on the stand? Downplaying the money?? "I think there was some reward money." It was $255,000 fucking dollars, it was the talk of the town for months... of course he wanted the reward money and knew exactly the amount. I am assuming that the reward money likely grew over the months as well, but I'm not sure of that.

Kronk also stated that in December he again went to take a pee and when asked by defense he was looking for the remains again he denied it. He then said he was just looking around, etc. If you need to pee you find the first tree and pee... you don't go perusing the forest.

Here's something interesting for you trial watchers.

A friend of mine in O-town sent this to me. This is from local news on Saturday, before it was out of the bag her defense team was ordering a psych evaluation. Very interesting flash of Casey's true colors:

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/28362472/index.html

Does it prove anything, no. Interesting, yes.

HLN channel played that clip over and over. It has been over 30 days now and that is the only shot of her "looking" aggressive. They also play the clips of her smiling over and over to show that she has no emotion and a sociopath. Nancy Fucktwat Grace should seriously go fuck herself, never heard a more annoying totally biased cunt in my life.

That being said... I believe Casey likely did kill her daughter but not planned out as prosecution states. It was likely in a fit of rage and either an accident or due to her actions in a fit of rage caused the death.

But not a planned murder of her little girl.

She then freaked out and hid the body... then dumped the body. I doubt it was an accidental drowning and I doubt anybody else knew about it... at first.

So in summary... Nancy Grace is a twat, Casey Anthony does have an anger streak but do not think is a sociopath and everything after the little girls death was an attempt to escape responsibility for "whatever" had happened.

:2 cents:

Who gives a fuck? If she wasn't a little hottie and was a fat black chick there would be no coverage at all. They keep you bombarded so they don't have to spend time telling the important shit like how crooked Clarence Thomas is.

No time for that

Anybody watching the trial today? Kronks son pretty convincing that his dad knew full well about kaylees remains well before december.

Usually the obvious makes sense. The point is the remains had been tampered with much more the eluded to by prosecution and kronk.

The problem with this trial nobody wants the truth. Prosecution wants a murder 1 charge and dismisses evidence that speaks otherwise.

"heres your fucking gas cans" - caseys dad around lunchtime... and this was on the live feed. anyone catch that or got a clip?

i think she gave the kid some drugs, maybe chloroform, so she could go out and party..

the kid died..

she deserves a death sentence...






.

We know now that Kronk was sure it was a skeleton in November and he finally got sick of the cops not doing anything in December. He lifted the bag and the skull and that ruins the prosecutions idea that duct tape was a murder weapon. It DOES answer how the brain matter was in the left side of the skull even though the skull was "found" by police in an upright position: Kronk put it that way.

I totally disagree with all the tv commentators who seem to think the dad made a great witness today. I think he has made a terrible, awful witness every time he's on there. He 100% smells human decomposition but never calls the police? And he's a detective? There were so many maggots eating the garbage and pizza that it SOUNDED LIKE FRYING HAMBURGER???? How SICK is that!? I've never heard that sound before or smelled garbage that bad! But he's 100% sure it was human decomposition in the car once owned by his son, and now by his daughter and does nothign but bring it home and try to clean it?

He tries to kill himself by telling everyone he's ever known that he's going to do it, then not doing it for so long that the cops come and "stop" him from it? Then flies right to a tv interview then doesnt know who is paying for his ritz carleton hotel stay for 3 days? Really? He's a former detective and doesnt know shit about this stuff and yet wants to kill himself and fails?

Yet the tv talking heads simply feel he's a credible, grieving grandpa. Sure thing. Nothing weird about it at all. Everyone acts like that.

Look, I think she did it and/or was responsible for it anyway. But for fuck sakes, the only one in this family I believe so far is the son who seems determined to just say what he really said and say what he really did and let the chips fall where they may. The mom and especially the dad seem to be trying SO HARD to only say what will help the prosecution that it's suspect. To me.

That is why Zanny the nanny.

I bet she gave the child xanax, when the child passed out, it was like a nanny!

I've noticed the same. How much was the reward that Kronk got?

Is it just me or does this Krunk guy have a case against the defence attorney (Baez?) for slander. I mean the attorney basically trashes Krunk in open televised court during his opening statement the other day, saying the guy is a money-grubbing this and he hid the remains that, basically saying he's a scumbag. Then when he gets Krunk on the stand he doesn't ask him one thing about any of that stuff he said about him.

In the US it seems anyone can sue anyone for anything. If I were Krunk I would definitely consider suing that dumbass Baez guy for slander. Sorry to any lawyer types here but if you're going to trash someone in that manner in open court in front of millions of viewers you better have the evidence to back up your accusations or else.


Btw, Baez's questions annoy the hell out of me. State of mind crap, did Casey's father or brother molest her etc etc... To me NONE of that shit matters. The only thing that matters in this case that a little girl is dead, and is there negligence or murder involved on the part of the mother. That's it. If they focused on that the case would be over in a few weeks tops.

The two sides never seek the truth. They just advocate on behalf of their clients and the jury has to do whatever they can to find reasonable doubt or not.

For instance IMHO, the entire attempt by the prosecution to deny the grief counsellor her expert status was a waste of time. Anyone can grieve in any way and it's entirely possible that you'd never know who was grieving or not. All well and good. All they had to do was ask her "Can you state factually whether or not this defendant was or is or will ever be grieving or show grief in any recognizable way?" Answer: No. "thank you no further questions".

The jury is not going to be schooled, during the trial of their lives, about grief no matter who says what. General info on grief was a waste of time and if anything, the jury will resent the prosecution for dragging it out for hours and hours. IMHO.

I'm not sure but I believe he didn't receive the reward money because they said the money was only going to be given if she were found alive.
I think a much smaller amount was given to him from some other source.

I remember when they were organizing searches and asking for volunteers. I have a Jeep and a dog that could sniff out a single chicken bone in a 20 acre lot.
I considered going out with my dog and spending the day in the fields but they were very strict on how to search and I didn't want to deal with it.

At no time do I recall them stating the reward was for only finding the child alive. It was always for finding Caylee.
I was shocked to learn they weren't going to give the meter reader the reward money.

It was stated by one of the commentators that the attorneys have immunity in whatever they say during the trial and cannot be held accountable in the way you mean. This was brought up because during the opening statements Baez said that Casey learned to lie because as a girl she would have to go to school right after having her father's penis in her mouth.

Until Casey goes on the stand and testifies to that fact, it remains completely unsubstantiated and certainly destroyed George's reputation which one would think would be reason to go after Baez but he is immune.