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gideongallery 06-30-2011 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 18251972)
you obviously can't read very well gideon

I had an original video , i made myself, everything in it owned by me and created by me

Someone copied my videos and had them on their channel.

I noticed these copied videos and filed a valid dmca notice to youtube

their videos stayed up and i recieved 2 copyright violations on MY account and then a notice that my account was being turned off.

The law above says youtube committed a felony, they are not protected by dmca safe harbour as they did not remove the video after a valid dmca was filed ,they continue to stream the video.

so sue youtube for 25k per view if they don't have safe harbor protection

i suspect you did something wrong in your filling because you didn't even fille a counter notice your 2 complaints.


and what about this statement do you not understand
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seriously man if you filed a proper counter notice you would know exactly which one of these it was

and you would have the evidence to press charges for fraud if it was the second.
your account got banned for multiple copyright violations and you never filed a counter notice.

Diomed 06-30-2011 09:09 PM

Youtube,

love it or hate it.. serves an incredibly necessary purpose. I'm sure politicians would love to see it go, and have it targeted for the near future.

Zorgman 06-30-2011 09:47 PM

Tubes will end up showing 1-2 minutes then say "click to download" to your computer. Then it's not streaming.

SmokeyTheBear 07-01-2011 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18252075)
so sue youtube for 25k per view if they don't have safe harbor protection

would rather see them do a 5yr prison stint
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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18252075)
i suspect you did something wrong in your filling

you suspected wrong, twice.. after it being clearly explained to you..

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18252075)
because you didn't even fille a counter notice your 2 complaints.

has nothing to do with the law quoted nor would it invalidate a dmca. Thanks for playing irrelevant comments by gideon
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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18252075)
your account got banned for multiple copyright violations and you never filed a counter notice.

i was not served with the dmca , youtube was. I never got to see it as my account was banned, all i got was an account notice. I replied to the account notice explaining the situation.

You have to find some other reason for it to be ok to steal gideon.

DWB 07-01-2011 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Diomed (Post 18252087)
Youtube,

love it or hate it.. serves an incredibly necessary purpose.

what purpose is that?

there was life before youtube, there will be life after.

pornguy 07-01-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Love Sex (Post 18250807)
its only bad for american uploaders the rest of the world is saying ..|..

American people came up with a little quote and lots have found the actual truth of this.

The quote. " The Long Arm of the Law"

Trust me they can and will use it against ANYONE they please.

gideongallery 07-01-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 18254358)
would rather see them do a 5yr prison stint


you suspected wrong, twice.. after it being clearly explained to you..



has nothing to do with the law quoted nor would it invalidate a dmca. Thanks for playing irrelevant comments by gideon

i was not served with the dmca , youtube was. I never got to see it as my account was banned, all i got was an account notice. I replied to the account notice explaining the situation.

You have to find some other reason for it to be ok to steal gideon.

there is a huge difference between claiming something and proving something

you claim a billion dollar company is doing something so wrong that it would open them up to an open and shut case for copyright infringement

you haven't proven that at all

i find it hard to believe your statement

especially when you could get paid 25k per hit to the video in question and you choose not to sue for that money.

Robbie 07-01-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 18250872)
This would make the majority of the internet either illegal or or useless.

No...it would mean that the majority of the internet wouldn't be stolen.

Everything on the internet would still be there...but it would be on the OWNERS websites where it belongs.

JamesGw 07-01-2011 02:25 PM

This could set a dangerous precedent, but we'll see where it goes.

SmokeyTheBear 07-01-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18254548)
there is a huge difference between claiming something and proving something

thanks for that fucking brilliant observation dumbass

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18254548)

a billion dollar company is doing something so wrong that it would open them up to an open and shut case for copyright infringement

umm glad it only took explaining it 3 times to you before you understand.
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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18254548)
you haven't proven that at all

this isn't a court, and youtube doesn't post here, it would be beyond stupid to give them a jump on the gun.

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18254548)
i find it hard to believe your statement

you find it hard to follow simple english so it doesn't suprise me..
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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18254548)
especially when you could get paid 25k per hit to the video in question and you choose not to sue for that money.

when did i say i decided not to sue ?

this is where reading really helps gideon.. read the thread.. respond to what is written.

You have a problem with not reading what is written , asking questions that have already been answered and making shit up out of thin air.

Jakez 07-01-2011 09:06 PM

Let us know when it passes..

Robbie 07-01-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesGw (Post 18255046)
This could set a dangerous precedent, but we'll see where it goes.

Yeah, and arresting people for breaking into your house and stealing your stuff could set a
"dangerous precedent" too. :(

Look...it's pretty cut and dried to me. If you didn't CREATE it, or pay to license it...then you STOLE it. And I think the "dangerous precedent" was set when the first thief on the internet figured out the "user uploaded" loophole to use DMCA against the very people it was designed to protect.

The only "danger" I see about this particular piece of legislation is the "danger" that hard working people might actually stop having their work stolen and their livelihoods taken from them.

Barry-xlovecam 07-01-2011 10:37 PM

Whether you like or dislike youtube ?I doubt that this proposed law if passed will close youtube down.

Porn may be able to ride in on the tails of the MPAA who seems to be the one pushing for this law's passage ...

See http://www.mpaa.org/blog on the subject of The PROTECT IP Act;
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[Th]e PROTECT IP Act is a smart, measured solution to an enormous problem. We applaud Congress for taking action and providing leadership. We sincerely hope that, in light of rogue sites? threat to the jobs and livelihoods of more than 134,000 film and television workers in Los Angeles, their hometown paper will reconsider. ...

gmr324 07-02-2011 05:50 AM

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Google is compiling a file of incriminating evidence, of various wrongdoings committed by these politicians, that its spiders found while crawling the web. Each one will be contacted with copies of those files. This will subsequently die.
Yea, I don't think these politicians want to mess with Google if they aren't proud of everything they searched for on the net

gideongallery 07-02-2011 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 18255645)

when did i say i decided not to sue ?

when i told you to sue them

you said you would rather see them in jail for 5 years.


that deciding to WAIT for this law to pass RATHER then choosing to SUE.

you might want to read your own statements.

gideongallery 07-02-2011 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18255669)
Look...it's pretty cut and dried to me. If you didn't CREATE it, or pay to license it...then you STOLE it.

again with the fuck fair use again

vcr didn't create the content they timeshifted, they didn't licience it either but that not nor will it ever be stolen.

i love how you want the monopoly without paying the cost

SmokeyTheBear 07-02-2011 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18256238)
when i told you to sue them

you said you would rather see them in jail for 5 years.

see this is where paying attention to what is written is important gideon.. i did not say i wouldn't sue..

i said i would rather see them in jail , doesn't mean i said i wasn't going to sue..

I think this is a common problem with you gideon, you make shit up out of thin air to suit your purpose.

gideongallery 07-02-2011 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 18256367)
see this is where paying attention to what is written is important gideon.. i did not say i wouldn't sue..

i said i would rather see them in jail , doesn't mean i said i wasn't going to sue..

so sue them and then post back after you won

it should take long at all if as you claim the safe harbor is gone

hell you should be able to get a summary judgement in your favor


I personally believe your all talk, that "proof" your documenting isn't real

SmokeyTheBear 07-02-2011 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18257511)
I personally believe your all talk, that "proof" your documenting isn't real

yes but you are a moron who believes in timeshifting fairytales so nobody cares what your deluded mind thinks.

This isn't a court and you don't share any resemblance to a lawyer. Come back when you have passed the bar and are representing youtube, until then you are just a fart in the wind and you smell like shit.:thumbsup

It took you 4 reply's just to grasp what was already said, i wish you luck in your future attempts pretending to be a lawyer :1orglaugh


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