100 pointless arguments.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WKZIieKYe3...+and+obama.jpg

Looks like Reagan was even higher, looks like Reagan went up even longer, and it looks like Obama's numbers started to come down sooner.

Odd, Obama stopped the increase, hit the peak sooner, and started the drop quicker.

And yet - he's hated for his rate's which only need to drop 3%. WOW!

The states were given the money without being told what they were to do with it according to you, that's bad leadership. The leadership being the Obamanation

I think you need some help with graphs.

I'm done here, you can't accept that the unemployment rate has been above 9% for way too long, that it's not moving, when it hit that high for Reagan, it started going down, learn to read a graph, I learned in grade school

Wrong... he did give guidelines, very defined ones. He can't however force a State like Texas to not spend it's real school budget on bullshit, like it did. That would be him over stepping his power and something not related to the stimulus at all.

You have no idea what States did to incorrectly manage any part of it, at any level, at all... and you have no idea what Obama did, guideline wise, before or after, or at any point.


Just like you can't accept that Reagan's numbers went up far longer that Obama's, that it was worse under Reagan, and it appears you can't accept that Obama's numbers ARE down, that they ARE slowly coming down... that they only need to come down 3% more at that.

I don't need read a graph to see you're a hypocrite.... I can just read your replies.

I'll let you know when that plateau starts to go down under Obama, BTW

3% is about 4.5 million jobs, good luck with that!

you think those jobs are ever coming back?

you're crazy if you do...

we will not see rates go down much lower than what they are today..

companies are making money, workers are more productive, offshore labor is reliable..

why hire... :2 cents:




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Based on the graph the number has already peaked and we aren't at a plateau at all, but rather in a decline.

Before Obama came into office, we lost 4.5 million jobs, within his first year of him stopping the drop another roughly 4.5 million jobs were lost, for almost 9 million lost jobs. More than TWICE what Reagan had to deal with. Obama has FULLY countered his loss so far, meaning he has 100% RECOVERED EVERY job lost under his watch - and then added some.

Obama, has ALREADY beat Reagan AND FDR's numbers growth numbers. By shit tons! He's done a BETTER job than Reagan at recovering jobs.

So the other 4.5 million is ALL under Bush's watch, and NOW Obama is replacing those as well.

So yeah, good luck Obama, you've already corrected the Jobs under your watch, MORE than Reagan did - and now you're unfucking the other Presidents losses.

And you still... hate on him. It's sad and pathetic, and fucking so unAmerican it's not even funny.

Not with the current leadership

You said 3%, now you're saying he already got the 3%, where did you study math?

good news for you.. i heard sarah palin is going to run...

you would vote for her wouldn't you?

the answer is yes, you would..

and that just shows that you cant get over the my side vs your side mentality that is killing this country.. :2 cents:






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Hahahaha... 3% is to get it back to where it was, the low point. Like you would EVER let Obama just repair what happened under his watch, oh god now, you expect a 1000x more with him than any President has ever produced in our History.

How about you go look at the actual math, I wrote them above, you can look them up. You can't even admit the numbers have declined when you can visually see it, it's a plateau with you, hahahahaha...

Something in your brain is very twisted, way fucked up, like bizarre.

its from all the seamen he was exposed to in the navy... :1orglaugh






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Not my side vs any side, my side is the country, right at this present time, the current administration is against it.
You keep bringing this up, I keep telling you the same thing, just because I don't like Obama, doesn't make me in love with the GOP, I'm not.
Please get a clue to that

Yeah, they have got within 3 million jobs from when he took office, LOL. And that only cost the taxpayers how much?

this is what actually kills the US right now - constant bickering over total bullshit instead of pulling your asses together and make things work - like at some point it has made you the greatest country on earth. from an outside point of view it's almost tragic to watch :2 cents:

Totally agree, both sides are so polarized they can't see how fucked up things are.

To the point where some people will argue for an administration that can't get the unemployment under 9%
It isn't about what they have done, it's where they have failed.
9.2% after 2 1/2 years is a fail and no amount of excuses are going to change how I feel about this.

A small amount, being that only a fraction of it was used to actually create jobs.... but if you want to take the talking point view, and add the total cost of the stimulus (not yet spent) and add it to every job 'created' (which it didn't do) then yeah, it's high - but it's also complete bullshit.

Even if Obama added 10 million jobs, you STILL would not give him credit, it would be a different excuse, different bullshit, to fuel your hate.

In this thread I have posted proof, debunked your theories, shown where you were flat wrong with actual proof to back it, and you STILL wont admit shit.

Truly... I've put you in the category of one of the most pathetic people I've ever encountered.

yes, and?

the tax cuts that were supposed to create new jobs didnt work either

so you have less money from taxes AND no jobs

but hey, i dont understand american politics anyways

but i know that some drastic changes in my country about 10 years ago now paid out to 6.x% unemployement and 4% economic growth this year.
and right in the middle of the economic crisis we had LUCKILY a coalition of the 2 biggest parties so that - in opposite of the US - both we able to work out a strategy that made this possible.

maybe you could learn something from that...

but wait, we're "socialistic"... so unfortunately this wont work either

Ron was the man.

LMAO, Go reread your posts. All you do is insult people, So I met some girls in chicago that were complaning about an older gentleman who was over weight degenerate trying to get them to Cam for "his" company. Wonder who that could be!! Check yourself Son!

So if he gets it under 9%, being that it's almost under, you're going to make a post praising Obama? How about if he gets it below 8, or 7 or 6? Will you at any point say "Obama" did it, like you blame it all him now, so clearly it would be 100% him if he recovered? What if he adds nothing but high-tech, better paying, more money moving jobs but less total - ie: more important jobs? P.S. this is what he's doing btw.

Of course not, I really don't need an answer from you.

There will not be now...or in the future...a President or a Congress that will return the Nation back to peak employment. Higher and higher unemployment will continue as the population grows and technology continues to advance.

It is being said that business/the wealthy are sitting on a trillion to three trillion dollars (depending who is producing the figures) and the Republicans are saying that if you reduce taxes even more they will begin hiring...and that is just bullshit.

Business/the wealthy are not in the business of hiring people...they are in the business of turning a profit...and reducing employment costs...combined with technology increases profits.

Also another way to increase profits is to reduce the cost of employment...reduce environmental requirements...and safety requirements. This has been ongoing and continues to be...by moving business to foreign countries.

The peak days of the Nation are over...they shall not return.

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Pipe dream for them to work together, it happened under Clinton with Newt to overhaul welfare and even under Reagan, he worked with Tip Oneil for to raise the tax for Social Security

You've made two post, all to insult me, and the company I work for does business with the company you work for, you're not really bright are you?
Rather than deal with you, I'll place you where you belong on ignore, because you have nothing to offer!

I'll give you an answer, I'll admit his idea's worked when I see it go below 7.5% Isn't that the magic number, if he can do that with the admin he has in place, I'll be impressed

I'm sure that's been said before

If you worked for my company and said something like that to a customer. You would be joining the ranks of the unemployed.

Thank You

If you don't like how I feel about Reagan or Obama, thats fine, don't get nasty about it, if you think I'm the only one that thinks like this, you're wrong.

http://blogs.forbes.com/peterferrara...s-and-figures/

GFY is the embodiment of free speech and if you have a problem with that, GoFuckYourself

It has been said before...in various ways...by me.

That's what scares me, more than one person thinks like you on these subjects.

That article is such pure shit, it's got incorrect information we've already busted in this post, with actual proof/sources to back it up... it's not even worth covering its stupidity.

We all love free speech, but oddly it is a two way door, dishing it out also means listening twice, you do have two ears, two eyes, and only one mouth - you should try listening and observing the facts more so you don't stop on your own rights.