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Agreed, end the wars.. that still wont resolve our issues at home but it's a start at spending less money. |
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Every economic empire in history has had a powerful military to back it up. It's quasi definition of empire. Then again, you're quite correct, most people froth about this and that without understanding anything about the historical context of the situation. |
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Fact... Your opinion means as much as mine. None of our opinions matter a bit. Unless you're in a position of power, a persons opinions mean nothing. But really.. I think I've made 1 statement of opinion in here and everything else has been fact. Not worth saying anything else about your diatribe. |
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There is a reaoson we aren't leaving. |
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The only way to accomplish something like that would be government funded/run projects. But no one wants the government to do that sort of thing. And we've seen how effective it is to just give business some money to do that stuff themselves. That's worked out really well over the last couple years. I guess they could get the money to the city/state through "earmarks".. But no one wants those either. Everyone wants smaller government and less spending to just magically happen. |
how much do the republicants pay you to post this shit?
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SallyRand: If the checks don't go out, it's the GOP's fault, NOT Obama's. |
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMj9g6WRLfQ damn shit Obama got you in !!!! |
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There is plenty of money to send out the PEOPLE'S OWN FUCKING MONEY! Obama has stooped to the lowest level of any American president ever and should either resign in shame or be impeached in disgrace. Are you aware, Mr, Smarty-Pants Asshole that Social Security is NOT a part of the federal budget but is funded separately by its own trust fund? Yeah. Mr. "The Buck Stops Here" is fucking those depending on the monies they paid into Social Security over many years! How is he doing it? Here is how the dirty bastard is leveraging the aging, the diabled, children depending on Social Security, retirees and in short, the entire American public!: http://www.ssa.gov/history/BudgetTreatment.html "Special Note About SSA's Administrative Budget: Although the transactions of the Social Security program itself are officially "off-budget," as explained above, the administrative budget for the agency running the program (the Social Security Administration) is not. SSA's annual administrative budget is subject to the standard budget and appropriations process. Thus each year the agency must present a separate budget request for its administrative costs (called the Limitation on Administrative Expenditures, or LAE line-item) and this request is subject to all the standard review procedures of the Office of Management and Budget and the budget and appropriations committees of the Congress." The Chosen One is telling the public that "We have your Social Security money but unless I get MY fucking way, I'm not going to be able to fund the people and systems which SEND you your money, so get your representatives to get into lock-step with me or suffer the consequences!" http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...g/Picture1.png |
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Happen to have a source for that quote? I'm guessing not..... Anyway, that's not leveraging and it would be the Republicans and Democrats fault. You blaming Obama at this point, screams that you have no clue what is going on. Actually, you sound like an old nut case and your rants scream mental problems. |
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The use of starvation as a weapon of war is considered to be a Crime Against Humanity and is an indictable offense under international law. http://www.icrc.org/customary-ihl/en...t=sta rvation "Report of the Commission on Responsibility: Based on several documents supplying evidence of outrages committed during the First World War, the 1919 Report of the Commission on Responsibility lists violations of the laws and customs of war which should be subject to criminal prosecution, including ?deliberate starvation of civilians?. "United States of America The Annotated Supplement to the US Naval Handbook (1997) states: Art. 54(1) [of the 1977 Additional Protocol I] would create a new prohibition on the starvation of civilians as a method of warfare ? which the United States believes should be observed and in due course recognized as customary law. " http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/s...Baby-Seal3.jpg |
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Oh yeah, we aren't at war with ourselves..... so basically all the other crap you posted is pure trash. I'm pretty sure that you're not actually an American, that's part of the lie that is SallyRand. I'm going to say you're from russia, probably ukrainian. Your English-writing skills scream that you're a communist.... so it must be true. |
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I am not now nor have I ever been a *Communist*............ What I am is this and I want you all to join me: Am also Native Kansan; a Jayhawk to the core so Go Fuck Yourself and take your silly-assed spin with you! |
The "Socialist" is preventing socialism! that bastard!
Cognitive dissonance by the truckload! |
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Yeah, most Russies born after the fall feel this way, but they still are what they are. Sleepers often know the areas they're told about in great detail, often better than life long residents... that seems to fit you perfectly. |
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Even if we went in default, we still have 10x the money vs cost ratio than the next country and that amount over what is needed overall. It's impossible for us to be in default... we would need to stop making money first. Either way, based on the 14th Amendment, Obama isn't allowed to let us go into default. So either this is total media hype spin and we will never really go into default, or both sides are willing to let Obama set this anyway he likes, without the ability to stop him. Which I find, very unlikely. |
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You don't get it at all. There is no money left. When Clinton was president, he raised taxes and wiped out the debt. The US economy was very strong and the value of the US dollar was high. When bush came in, he gave huge tax breaks to the wealthy and removed taxes completely from big oil, GE, etc. He also started a war against a country who was not your enemy, de regulated the banks, and drove the US into severe debt. By the time he was finally out, the US was falling into recession and over 700,000 jobs were being lost every single month. Besides Kill Bin Ladden, Obama pulled the economy back from the brink of disaster returned socialized medicine, and hundreds of other things, all WITHOUT the help from the fuckers in the GOP. The GOP's agenda is very clear : Get Obama out, no matter what. They don't give a damn about what happens to your country or even the world. They just want Obama. It is really, really sad what is happening to your country. There is shit everywhere you look. The GOP wants poor people to get poorer, sick people to get sicker. They are trying to steal votes, ruin the environment, etc. Just ... everything... You need to see things from an outsides point of view. We Canadians, Brits and the rest of the world are all watching what is going on in your country very closely and we are awash in stunned disbelief. We are watching your country, as beautiful as it is, fall apart right before our eyes. President Obama is not perfect, no one is. But from our point of view he seems like he is the only one who actually cares about his country. |
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The U.S. could also immediately STOP all pork spending. Stop all foreign aid. Stop the million things the govt. is doing that it shouldn't be doing. And yes I know that people in govt. feed us the line that "foreign aid is only a tiny percentage of blah, blah, blah" Yes, but it adds up to BILLIONS of dollars. And when you add that up to all the other things then you start getting to TRILLIONS of dollars. Congress and Presidents spend money like drunken sailors. Check this out: "Each year since 1969, Congress has spent more money than its income." My point is that there is absolutely no reason for the U.S. govt to go into "default". We CAN make our payment on the debt. We CAN keep the essential services of our govt. open and running. We are NOT broke and we do not necessarily have to raise the debt ceiling. But the politicians in Washington D.C. want to just keep spending money on EVERYTHING and keep going further and further into debt. :( |
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Having said that....he also benefited from an incredible thing called the "internet bubble". For the first time in decades an entirely new source of revenue came into being. People started making money on something that had not existed before: the internet. I remember it very well and how the economy just took off. THAT is what really got the revenue to the federal govt. put into overdrive. And Clinton was smart enough to keep his hands off of it and let it run. Of course the bubble burst in 1999. But it was a GREAT run while it lasted for sure. Lot of money was made (and that money was taxed). Clinton also reformed welfare and actually cut a lot of govt. spending. He also had a mostly peaceful tenure (exception of flinging some missiles at Bosnia and Iraq here and there)...so military spending was not only lower...but he actually CUT and closed a lot of military bases. |
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His so-called "heath care" system ONLY mandates the people BUY health insurance or face civil and potential criminal prosecution. I'd be really interested in you enumerating those "hundreds of other things", by the way! Additionally under the Tyranny of The Chosen One, the USA has the highest unemployment rate since the Great Depression. And BULLSHIT that we need to see things from YOUR standapoint! Like the viewpoint of broke-assed Greece? The viewpoint of officially bankrupt Iceland? How about the viewpoint of economically failed Ireland? Maybe the viewpoint of soon-to-be another broke-ass, Portugal? We need to SEE THINGS AS THEY ARE IN THE USA! The Social Security money is indeed there; The Chosen One is merely using it as a lever to both get his budget passed and angle for a second term. Obama says we have to eat our peas, so................................... http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/a...GREENGIANT.jpg |
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Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void. http://topics.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv |
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Based on what I said and the amendment says, he isn't allowed to let it go into default. Next time I suggest reading the top 2/3 of the wiki.... rather than spouting your mouth here. |
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I am just strongly of the opinion that the govt. and the media are trying to frame this situation as "raise the debt ceiling or go into default...end of the world"
And I think that we are being fed false info on that. My opinion based on the past few decades of our govt. is this: They will keep on spending more than we take in. If ANY taxes are raised they will NOT be used to lower the debt...they will be SPENT by Congress & the President on more shit. Any person or any business in the world would be unable to do what they are doing. Just using common sense should tell us that the spending has to STOP. And I'm not talking about social security. Unfortunately we are all locked into that with no way out. But everything else should and has to be on the table. Nobody can just keep spending when they are already in 41 years of DEBT. |
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I swear to God I'm really starting to think "Libertarian" This whole "republican" vs "democrat" fictional charade that they are presenting us is nothing more than a way to distract from what they are really doing in Washington. I'm starting to think this whole corrupt thing is going to implode soon. |
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The teabaggers don't seem to get it and that is why they'll be a negligible factor post 2012. The only viable solution to the debt crisis is to grow the fucking economy and pay off the debt with the resultant increased tax revenues. Problem is nobody has a clue how to go about doing such :( . |
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