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vsex 07-18-2011 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18289989)
i noticed on there that there are no machine fuck girls, where are they?

it looks like all normal chat girls online without the machine fucking, isn't the machine sex the point of VSEX?

Yes, some were just on. We are doing at-home machines now, so as we are shipping them out, the girls get them and go online on their own schedule. As we ship more and more and more girls go up, they will fill the needed time slots. The girls without machines are just fill for now, and they do quite well.

vsex 07-18-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 2intense (Post 18289923)
each visitor is important

of course they are. However, instead of just emailing us, he decided his first reaction would be to call us scammy etc and put us on blast. Anyone with that lack of class is not someone we necessarily want to do business with. One thing I've noticed is the truly gifted affiliates never do anything like this at all, They are too busy finding and sending great traffic.

CaptainHowdy 07-18-2011 12:51 PM

What is "live" anyways??

CurrentlySober 07-18-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vsex (Post 18289928)
It's not a pre-recorded video. They are a studio in Prague I believe and we don't give them the capability to do it. I'll tell you what, create a new user, or give me your old one and I will unban you and put in $35 so you can take them private to prove it. I'll do it this once since you can't seem to get it thru your mind that it isn't recorded. But once you do, I want you to respond in this thread in kind.

No thanks. While I said that I will say no more, I will simply explain one more time, in a hopefully more constructive detail for you...

I simply clicked on the link you provided - I was there as a 'Freeloader' (Or similar wording - your choice - not mine)

People on here (GFY) were already asking if it was live or not, and when I hit the chatroom, there were 3 other people in there, also asking if it was live...

Now, back in the early days of streamate, I used to personally get sites to take the feeds... By personally I mean that I would actually SIT NEXT TO site owners, and call up the feeds... Remember, this was YEARS ago, and cams were not that well known.

The owners often used to say... 'Is this REALLY live?' and I would say, sure ! Look... I'd then type into the chat (In an authoritative way... But it WAS a long time ago) something like...

"Hi, Affiliate Manager Here - Please prove to potential customer that you ARE LIVE by holding up one finger to the cam. THANKS :) '

And guess what? 9 times out of ten, the girl would flash her pinky... on the 1 time she didnt... I guess she missed the message :1orglaugh

But my point is that I simply asked the same kinda thing, but IN A MUCH MORE POLITE WAY...

Quote:

"If live, please hold up pinky finger to the cam? Thanks :)"
No big deal? I'm sure you'll agree?

But I get BANNED? WTF? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:helpme

BOTTOM LINE?

I dont wanna see a free show. I dont wanna have any free credits... All that I wanted to do, was to EXPERIENCE your site, from the point of view of a punter, that I sent to your site...

My experience as a punter was (Lets be honest...) Pretty shit...

And thats my point.

You see, In My Opinion... If it were a live feed, and a potential customer, wanted a model to show her little finger, to prove its live (And potentially get 'Tipped' or 'Privated') then the model would hold up a finger...

When she doesn't - Totally ignores request - and I find myself banned... I have to question it???

HAD I SAID " PROVE YOU ARE LIVE BY STICKING YOU LEG UP THE OTHER GIRLS CUNT... Or... PISS ALL OVER THE CAMERA... Or... PERFORM SOME SEX ACT FOR FREE.... But... I DIDNT...

I just ased her to hold up a finger to camera... NO MORE / NO LESS... Piece of piss...


Like I say, ALL I am doing is looking at it from the POV of someone WHOM I send to the site.. And, rightly or wrongly... It wasn't good...

So with respect, I dont want $35 credit. I dont want to watch a show - All joking aside - I am 42 years in this biz... I dont want 'Jollies' myself... Just to know what 'Joe Public' gets when I send him to you...

I guess you think I am freaking out, or that I am pissed I was 'banned' but thats NOT the deal... Honestly... I dont care about me. I catre about sending people to you... Thats all..

Anyway, I think I have made my point, and I will leave it there... UNLESS anyone quotes a post from me, to which I will take my 'Right To Reply' LOL :1orglaugh

Chosen 07-18-2011 12:54 PM

OFFLINE :pimp

Caligari 07-18-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vsex (Post 18290002)
Yes, some were just on. We are doing at-home machines now, so as we are shipping them out, the girls get them and go online on their own schedule. As we ship more and more and more girls go up, they will fill the needed time slots. The girls without machines are just fill for now, and they do quite well.

none of those girls you have online right now are doing fuck machines, or they would have a little symbol which shows that they are fuck machine girls yes?

vsex 07-18-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18290030)
none of those girls you have online right now are doing fuck machines, or they would have a little symbol which shows that they are fuck machine girls yes?

yes, that is correct.

Caligari 07-18-2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vsex (Post 18290054)
yes, that is correct.

so when do they come on? didn't you used to have a ticker which listed the performers and the times they were coming on?

vsex 07-18-2011 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18290024)
No thanks. While I said that I will say no more, I will simply explain one more time, in a hopefully more constructive detail for you...

I simply clicked on the link you provided - I was there as a 'Freeloader' (Or similar wording - your choice - not mine)

People on here (GFY) were already asking if it was live or not, and when I hit the chatroom, there were 3 other people in there, also asking if it was live...

Now, back in the early days of streamate, I used to personally get sites to take the feeds... By personally I mean that I would actually SIT NEXT TO site owners, and call up the feeds... Remember, this was YEARS ago, and cams were not that well known.

The owners often used to say... 'Is this REALLY live?' and I would say, sure ! Look... I'd then type into the chat (In an authoritative way... But it WAS a long time ago) something like...

"Hi, Affiliate Manager Here - Please prove to potential customer that you ARE LIVE by holding up one finger to the cam. THANKS :) '

And guess what? 9 times out of ten, the girl would flash her pinky... on the 1 time she didnt... I guess she missed the message :1orglaugh

But my point is that I simply asked the same kinda thing, but IN A MUCH MORE POLITE WAY...



No big deal? I'm sure you'll agree?

But I get BANNED? WTF? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:helpme

BOTTOM LINE?

I dont wanna see a free show. I dont wanna have any free credits... All that I wanted to do, was to EXPERIENCE your site, from the point of view of a punter, that I sent to your site...

My experience as a punter was (Lets be honest...) Pretty shit...

And thats my point.

You see, In My Opinion... If it were a live feed, and a potential customer, wanted a model to show her little finger, to prove its live (And potentially get 'Tipped' or 'Privated') then the model would hold up a finger...

When she doesn't - Totally ignores request - and I find myself banned... I have to question it???

HAD I SAID " PROVE YOU ARE LIVE BY STICKING YOU LEG UP THE OTHER GIRLS CUNT... Or... PISS ALL OVER THE CAMERA... Or... PERFORM SOME SEX ACT FOR FREE.... But... I DIDNT...

I just ased her to hold up a finger to camera... NO MORE / NO LESS... Piece of piss...


Like I say, ALL I am doing is looking at it from the POV of someone WHOM I send to the site.. And, rightly or wrongly... It wasn't good...

So with respect, I dont want $35 credit. I dont want to watch a show - All joking aside - I am 42 years in this biz... I dont want 'Jollies' myself... Just to know what 'Joe Public' gets when I send him to you...

I guess you think I am freaking out, or that I am pissed I was 'banned' but thats NOT the deal... Honestly... I dont care about me. I catre about sending people to you... Thats all..

Anyway, I think I have made my point, and I will leave it there... UNLESS anyone quotes a post from me, to which I will take my 'Right To Reply' LOL :1orglaugh

Fair enough. I can understand your point of view when put that way. Calling us scammy and putting us on blast was just the wrong way to try and get your point across first time around. Those girls/that studio just signed up and to be honest, that was the first time I had seen that kind of camera work from a studio. I can see what you were talking about, however, just to be sure, even tho' i know we don't give them the capability to do recorded shows, I took them private to be on the safe side and sure enough, they hopped right into private, right on camera. We give them the option to ban due to the necessity of it, and I happened to not be in front of my computer to see what had happened. I would've gladly unbanned you (which we do from time to time, although, if a model bans you, your are automatically unbanned after 24 hours) had we started this more constructively. Although I truly just started this thread because the girls were cracking me up and I thought others on here would like it, as happens from time to time on this board it spiraled out of control in a different direction. I'll let this one slip down the page and call it a day.

vsex 07-18-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18290060)
so when do they come on? didn't you used to have a ticker which listed the performers and the times they were coming on?

yes, and we still do from time to time as the girls give us a heads up. We don't do the Pornstar studios anymore as they just didn't happen to work out as intended and we decided to go with the at-home machines instead. So now, if we don't know a girl is going on, since they can come on as they please, we don't do it all the time.

96ukssob 07-18-2011 01:19 PM

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CurrentlySober 07-18-2011 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vsex (Post 18290077)
Fair enough. I can understand your point of view when put that way. Calling us scammy and putting us on blast was just the wrong way to try and get your point across first time around. Those girls/that studio just signed up and to be honest, that was the first time I had seen that kind of camera work from a studio. I can see what you were talking about, however, just to be sure, even tho' i know we don't give them the capability to do recorded shows, I took them private to be on the safe side and sure enough, they hopped right into private, right on camera. We give them the option to ban due to the necessity of it, and I happened to not be in front of my computer to see what had happened. I would've gladly unbanned you (which we do from time to time, although, if a model bans you, your are automatically unbanned after 24 hours) had we started this more constructively. Although I truly just started this thread because the girls were cracking me up and I thought others on here would like it, as happens from time to time on this board it spiraled out of control in a different direction. I'll let this one slip down the page and call it a day.

OK mate. I am not setting out on some kinda 'Hate' campaign, based upon one experience...

Just explaining to you my PERSONAL experience, as a 'Punter'

But fair play. Over and out :)

vsex 07-18-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18290117)
OK mate. I am not setting out on some kinda 'Hate' campaign, based upon one experience...

Just explaining to you my PERSONAL experience, as a 'Punter'

But fair play. Over and out :)

:thumbsup

2intense 07-18-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vsex (Post 18290145)
:thumbsup

:thumbsup

vdbucks 07-18-2011 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18290117)
OK mate. I am not setting out on some kinda 'Hate' campaign, based upon one experience...

Just explaining to you my PERSONAL experience, as a 'Punter'

But fair play. Over and out :)

I pretty much had the same experience.. asked if it was live then got banned. So came here and asked earlier in the thread.

Oh well, to each their own I guess.. but I definitely consider it bad business for people to be banned so quickly. I mean, they beg and beg and beg and beg for tips and private, yet ban people who ask a question. And yes, it does indeed look pre-recorded as I have never seen a live stream with cut scenes/scene jumps before. Did I mention how much they beg?

Up to you how you run your gig at the end of the day though.

I look at it this way... as a customer, why should I be willing to pay anything to a site for such rude behavior.

As a program owner and affiliate site network operator, I have to ask why would I send potential customers to a site where they'd be treated like trash? Sure, you can respond and tell me to take my traffic elsewhere, but in reality that is a horrible business model to follow.

makefuckingmoney 07-18-2011 09:51 PM

I cant imagine the online show being any better than the trainwreck of a thread this was

2MuchMark 07-18-2011 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by vsex (Post 18289884)
We don't do recorded shows in place of live ever. You're barking up the wrong tree. I'll see if we can get some live poop for you to jerk it too. :1orglaugh Let it go dood. You're expending alot of energy on something you're not even close to right about.

I'm sure you guys wouldn't allow recorded shows, but how do you know that it wasn't these models or the studio they work for trying to pull a fast one?

We have a no-pre-recorded policy but sometimes we catch some dork trying to pass off a pre recorded show as live. We ban the account and then of course they complain. People are so dumb.

Here are some easy ways to catch pre recorded (or dumb as shit) chat models:

- Ask them to say your name by voice.
- Ask them to wave

If the girl is into her thing and can't see her screen, watch for cut scenes or loops of repeating movements.

If you own a chat site and you have a model running pre recorded shows, delete the account. You don't need someone like that creating chargebacks and hurting your business.


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